Good.

Norad: Good.

Yep.

The best thing about Obama is that many Republicans I've spoken with and heard interviewed would vote for him over any of the Republicans running.

It's over, Hillary. 7of7: The best thing about Obama is that many Republicans I've spoken with and heard interviewed would vote for him over any of the Republicans running.

I am one of them.

I just read his book. If he's sincere, he'd make a very interesting choice of president.

/not currently 'murcan, just interested.

bronyaur1: I am one of them.

Ditto. Seconded. This.

bronyaur1:
I am one of them.

Ditto. Though I guess I was only a statistically republican voter to begin with, not exactly part of the party's loyal core.

//Still not really voting for Obama as against the rest, but he's several levels up on my next choice.

RedMosquito: bronyaur1: I am one of them.

Ditto. Seconded. This.

Absolutely. Especially considering the no-talent assclowns the GOP is putting up lately.

If he wins with this big a gap, Clinton will be toast.



It appears Clinton knows this too, because she's been getting pretty snippy lately.

I think they're underestimating the Ralphie Wiggum factor.

keytronic: If he wins with this big a gap, Clinton will be toast.



It appears Clinton knows this too, because she's been getting pretty snippy lately.

did you see her lose her composure and get all defensive at the debate last night? I was awesome

I'm hearing a lot of things the last day or two...some have Obama up 10, others show it a dead heat. I hope Hillary's blow up the other night really turns some more of the 50+ crowd off of her. I always find the most uneducated on the election are the most likely to go for her; everyone says going for the youth vote (under 30) is stupid, but we're the ones who are actually paying attention.

bronyaur1: It's over, Hillary. 7of7: The best thing about Obama is that many Republicans I've spoken with and heard interviewed would vote for him over any of the Republicans running.

I am one of them.

Well, Im NOT trolling and NOT looking for a flame war but if you call yourself a Republican and say you will vote for one of the most liberal people running for President you are no longer a Republican, you are a Democrat or a liberal independent.

What is the historical trend for candidates who win Iowa and New Hampshire? Do they tend to go on to win the nomination? Notable examples or exceptions?

I really want to get my hopes up about this. I could've lived with "inevitable" but I really want Obama.

Stick a fork in her, she's done.

Obama/Edwards FTW

Afternoon_Delight/hillary4real seen crying into his/her cheerios.

Note to Hillary: You're doing it wrong.

on Wednesday she had a decent lead in NH. Thursday post-Caucus she and Obama were nearly tied and Hillary's camp was trying to spin 3rd place as a victory saying she never expected to win Iowa (which is of course exactly what she and her surrogates WEREN'T saying up until the results were pouring in Caucus night.)


Friday while trying to appear nonchalant and still inevitable, her campaign began taking nasty swings at Obama. The problem was she tried to attack him in the abstract without ever explaining the Substance behind what she was saying.

Obama offers "false hope"? Okay that sounds bad but what do you mean by it? Can you give us an example as to WHY he's a "false hope"? No? But you by contrast are "ready to lead" so we should vote for you? Wonderful, really, excellent, that sounds good. But erm, what MAKES you "ready to lead" and Obama not? You are both Senators and all....hey hey don't taze me bro!

and in the end the Net effect of the last few days was to Expose hillary as a poltical automaton, spitting out buzz phrases and sales pitches rather than explaining why she'd be a good leader. And Not suprisingly that's helping Obama big time by contrast.

mfaby: Well, Im NOT trolling and NOT looking for a flame war but if you call yourself a Republican and say you will vote for one of the most liberal people running for President you are no longer a Republican, you are a Democrat or a liberal independent.

Hehehe. Nobody in the race comes close to being liberal.

Anybody been noticing the Obama hate on the political blogs? I say Clinton is paying for it. It makes no sense to see this much anti-Obama static all of a sudden. It's weird, and it doesn't make much sense.

Magorn: And Not suprisingly that's helping Obama big time by contrast.

I also can't help but wonder if Obama represents a break from the Bush/Clinton dynamic in the minds of a lot of the voting public.

I am a wingnut (more or less) and I know no Republicans ready to jump on the Obama-wagon.

Scared of him in a general election? Sure. Ready to vote for him? Oh, hell, no.

mfaby: Well, Im NOT trolling and NOT looking for a flame war but if you call yourself a Republican and say you will vote for one of the most liberal people running for President you are no longer a Republican, you are a Democrat or a liberal independent.

Not true; the Republican party is not the same thing as it used to be. It stands for irresponsible fiscal policy and massive overseas military engagement. Someone who was a Republican in 1998 would be chased out of the party today for being a peacenick and soft on terror. They would also be called a 'tax and spend' liberal. Guess what? We didn't change - the party did.

Yeah if he wins New Hampshire I think it's pretty much over. Hillary may hang in until Feb. 5, and maybe even win a state primary or two like New York because she has so much money, but I think Obama will win the nomination pretty quickly.

Shaggy_C: I'm hearing a lot of things the last day or two...some have Obama up 10, others show it a dead heat.

One of the ones that showed them in a dead heat was this one, which is now updated to show him with a huge lead. Also, the ARG poll that always had Clinton up by ridiculous amounts the last month or so now shows Obama with a sizable lead over her.

mfaby: bronyaur1: It's over, Hillary. 7of7: The best thing about Obama is that many Republicans I've spoken with and heard interviewed would vote for him over any of the Republicans running.

I am one of them.

Well, Im NOT trolling and NOT looking for a flame war but if you call yourself a Republican and say you will vote for one of the most liberal people running for President you are no longer a Republican, you are a Democrat or a liberal independent.

I know quite a few Republicans that want to vote for Obama. But I agree *you* do sound quite a bit like a republican. We'll gladly take his vote if it's not good enough for you. Cheers.

mfaby: bronyaur1: It's over, Hillary. 7of7: The best thing about Obama is that many Republicans I've spoken with and heard interviewed would vote for him over any of the Republicans running.

I am one of them.

Well, Im NOT trolling and NOT looking for a flame war but if you call yourself a Republican and say you will vote for one of the most liberal people running for President you are no longer a Republican, you are a Democrat or a liberal independent.

Mfaby, I'm not trolling you either, but I think you are missing the point. The past 8 years has shown alot of Americans the downfall of divisive politics and really alot of Americans are sick of it and just want change. Obama may be 'liberal', but he's also brutally honest and willing to listen to the viewpoint of whoever is talking. This is a sharp contrast to "you're either with us or against us" and "democrats are the party of surrender".

Our country's health revolves around a vibrant political discourse, and Karl Rove et. al have throughly destroyed that notion. I've been an Obama fan for a while, and while I may disagree with him on guns and a few other minor things, his inclusive message is attracting alot of independents and republicans who have opened their eyes to the wasteland GWB's tenure left us with.

I didn't think it was possible for many 'pubs to think outside the shallow partisan box they had been sequestered into by Rush, Rove and Cheney; but I am so very glad to be wrong.

Oh and I think the person you replied to said he wasn't a party devotee, he just voted R in the past.

I don't think America is ready for a black muslim President. No farking way. He wants to dismantle NASA and redirect the funds towards slavery reparations in the form of an increase in the size of the welfare state. Plus he's a drug dealer, has AIDS, and is gay.

/you know it's only a matter of time before this kind of stuff starts getting forwarded to you by your mom or dad

Sphaux:
did you see her lose her composure and get all defensive at the debate last night? I[t] was awesome

I thought her response was amazing -- it had the inkling of her true self (which we don't seem to see all the time).
Youtube video (new window)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KEPOfBvu1o

Hillary screeching (not a rickroll, promise).

capecodcarl: I don't think America is ready for a black muslim President. No farking way. He wants to dismantle NASA and redirect the funds towards slavery reparations in the form of an increase in the size of the welfare state. Plus he's a drug dealer, has AIDS, and is gay.

/you know it's only a matter of time before this kind of stuff starts getting forwarded to you by your mom or dad

It just did.

//Nice.

mfaby: if you call yourself a Republican and say you will vote for one of the most liberal people running for President you are no longer a Republican, you are a Democrat or a liberal independent.

So you would agree that there's no such thing as a "Reagan Democrat" then, right?

Miles D Davis Jr.:
/you know it's only a matter of time before this kind of stuff starts getting forwarded to you by your mom or dad

It just did.

//Nice.

Err... misread as will be emailed to your mom or dad.

My bad.

mfaby: bronyaur1: It's over, Hillary. 7of7: The best thing about Obama is that many Republicans I've spoken with and heard interviewed would vote for him over any of the Republicans running.

I am one of them.

Well, Im NOT trolling and NOT looking for a flame war but if you call yourself a Republican and say you will vote for one of the most liberal people running for President you are no longer a Republican, you are a Democrat or a liberal independent.

I'm not trying to troll or start a flamewar either, but if you would vote for any of those assbags with the "R" next to their name, then you are no longer a conservative--you just like war and being spied on.

/Wow, drawing ridiculous conclusions from one opinion on an internet message board is both fun and easy!

capecodcarl: I don't think America is ready for a black muslim President. No farking way. He wants to dismantle NASA and redirect the funds towards slavery reparations in the form of an increase in the size of the welfare state. Plus he's a drug dealer, has AIDS, and is gay.

/you know it's only a matter of time before this kind of stuff starts getting forwarded to you by your mom or dad

I'm really waiting for Hillary or a Republican to run an attack ad on his lack of experience, and end it with the line "After all, aren't you tired of black men begging for CHANGE?"

Considering the majority of people that biatch about Republicans are 18-30somethings, I wouldn't be surprised if the voter turnout sucked .. again!

Cowboy Spencer: Nobody in the race comes close to being liberal.



Well, there's Kucinich. But if he's any indication, liberals are too busy with their gorgeous English women to care much.

nashBridges: DarnoKonrad: Anybody been noticing the Obama hate on the political blogs? I say Clinton is paying for it. It makes no sense to see this much anti-Obama static all of a sudden. It's weird, and it doesn't make much sense.

Wait until someone becomes the nominee. At least on Fark, the better you are doing the more people are rooting for you to lose.

Agreed. This is gonna be one messy general election. The swift-boating stuff is going to look like child's play.

godofusa.com: Considering the majority of people that biatch about Republicans are 18-30somethings, I wouldn't be surprised if the voter turnout sucked .. again!

That's an age group that has been given an eight-year crash course in the merits of turning out to vote AGAINST SOMEONE. They've been historically apathetic because there hasn't been anyone worth voting for in a long time.

That said, even if the GOP manages to nominate someone who isn't completely repulsive (Huckabee or.....well, Huckabee), I think they'd still go to the polls for Obama. He's worth voting for.

Jim_Callahan: bronyaur1:
I am one of them.

Ditto. Though I guess I was only a statistically republican voter to begin with, not exactly part of the party's loyal core.

//Still not really voting for Obama as against the rest, but he's several levels up on my next choice.

Ditto. And I'm not just a statistically loyal Republican voter, I'm part of the official grassroots political structure--I'm a County Precinct Committeewoman, and while I've never run opposed, it's an elected office with a party loyalty oath. I'm supposed to be the one who says, "any Republican is better than any Democrat," but I'm not willing to say that unequivocally across the board.

/Don't know what I'm doing yet, but I'd rather have Barack over Rudy or Mitt

too bad PRIMARY POLLS MEAN NOTHING.

/that is all
/quote from long-time national news correspondents themselves

T-Servo: Well, there's Kucinich.

I like some things about Kucinich, but he's not in the race.

I'm a registered Republican (in PA you have to register for a party to vote in primaries), but never vote a straight ticket (and didn't vote for W either time). My preference has been McCain, but he hasn't exactly looked presidential the past 48 hours... kinda smarmy and unnecessarily so. I've been looking at Obama and he's getting better all the time - I'd consider voting for him. But if Edwards ends up on that ticket, not a chance in hell.

mfaby: bronyaur1: It's over, Hillary. 7of7: The best thing about Obama is that many Republicans I've spoken with and heard interviewed would vote for him over any of the Republicans running.

I am one of them.

Well, Im NOT trolling and NOT looking for a flame war but if you call yourself a Republican and say you will vote for one of the most liberal people running for President you are no longer a Republican, you are a Democrat or a liberal independent.

I was elected to local office as a Republican some years ago. I think that qualifies me to call myself a Republican. Is someone out of the club because they can't vote for anyone on the Retard Roster that is the current list of GOP hopefuls (except for McCain)?

Blind lock-step loyalty is EXACTLY what has closed the GOP to new ideas, risking making it a minority party for a LONG time to come. New ideas aren't always scary, but the current ideology of the party treats them as such. Pavlovian application of Reaganesque solutions to today's challenges is just as dumb as trying New Deal policies to solve the issues that faced the late 1970s.

Any Republican terrified about being "liberal," should check out a little bit of Barry Goldwater's policy positions throughout his career. His ideas would threaten the living crap out of the current GOP leadership. Check out his thoughts on religion and a big domestic police presence in people's daily lives - "liberal-haters" won't like them at all.

Most people who now fear "liberal" thinking apparently have no idea what the word actually means, or have Clue One about its origins.

T-Servo: Kucinich

I just saw him on Hannity and Colmes heh...I can't believe he can sit through that crap and not get pissed off. It's damn annoying to watch.

Yeah, recent Obama hate on the liberal/progressive blogs has given me pause.

Cowboy Spencer: I also can't help but wonder if Obama represents a break from the Bush/Clinton dynamic in the minds of a lot of the voting public.

No shiat eh? I'm tired of the whole pack of 'em. Open up the window and let the bad air out.

All that aside who in their right mind would want to be president now? Its like getting the hotel room right after the Stones have trashed it. Who wants to be the one to clean up the vomit, used needles, dead goat and the passed out hooker?

ps: entire books have been written about how Bush & Co. stole both the '00 and '04 elections.

Look them up because I'm not going to waste time doing so, but i'm being honest.

All it takes is a few key phixed polls in a few phixed counties in a few phixed states. Sad, but very true.

/phillipine dating?
//i just puked in my mouth
///just a lil' bit

bronyaur1: I am one of them.

7of7: The best thing about Obama is that many Republicans I've spoken with and heard interviewed would vote for him over any of the Republicans running.