submitter: Meanwhile, getting maternity leave in America can be like pulling a tooth

Well to be fair, most Japanese companies only hire women as part time employees and don't expect them to hang around after they have a kid anyway.

Well, Japanese people *really* like their pets...

UberDave: Well, Japanese people *really* like their pets...

I... what? Seriously, what the hell?

UberDave: Well, Japanese people *really* like their pets...

What the hell is going on there? Seriously.

Did someone say maternity leave? We wife received short term disability checks. The values went up and down each week and a few were skipped. Then the bastards sent me a bill for overpayment.

Made me want to get a vasectomy. Or was that the idea?

$9/month? That's like a week's worth of food. Probably less in Japan.

UberDave

Thank you.

There's never a time Japan doesn't take the prize for weirdness, and it's good to see the tone of this thread set early.

groovyjman21: "Meanwhile, getting maternity leave in America can be like pulling a tooth"

Notice the sense of entitlement so typical of the feminist. She expects other people to be forced by law to pay her cash for months to sit at home. That's feminists: always demanding, always taking, never giving or serving.


Wow. That's Trolltastic.

What's with all the Japanese threads lately? Not like I'm complaining, I'm going back in March.

groovyjman21: "Meanwhile, getting maternity leave in America can be like pulling a tooth"

Notice the sense of entitlement so typical of the feminist. She expects other people to be forced by law to pay her cash for months to sit at home. That's feminists: always demanding, always taking, never giving or serving.

Legislated maternity leave in the US is unpaid. Your trollcellence is weak.

gwowen: Wow. That's Trolltastic.

Hehe.

I'm not sure how much we get in the UK, but it's a LOT. More than necessary frankly, certainly more than the six weeks per-kid we got in the US.

Alveen: $9/month? That's like a week's worth of food. Probably less in Japan.

My cat's food cost about 6 US dollars for a five pound bag. But I buy the cheaper brand my cat likes. Other brands can be 50 dollars for a four pound bag. Canned food is about the same as in America at around 60 cents for a can of cheaper stuff and up to two dollars a piece for the spendy brand.
Not a huge budget, no, but 1000 yen can feed a cat or small for a month.

At least they're trying to get Japanese people to think of animals as more than just toys or fashion accessories. It can be really sad seeing the situation animals are in over here. Japan doesn't have the same system of animals advocacy and shelters like in the West. Most only hold animals for a week or two waiting for the owners to claim it. Euthanasia rates are nearly 100%. Most people opt to buy a puppy mill pet store puppy than adopt. Then, when it's not cute anymore or becomes inconvenient they get abandoned or euthanized. When I first moved into my apartment here, my ward office gave me a Helpful Tips Pamphlet. Once section had info on where to license your pet. If you move and cannot take your pet, it said, please bring it to one of the following animal control locations for disposal. :'(

With dogs, its not such a problem. It's easier to prevent a dog pregnancy than a cat pregnancy. Cats get the short end of the stick.Getting an animal fixed can be damn expensive (my five pound male cat has an appointment this month for a neautering, its going to cost 200 dollars) and a lot of people just don't bother getting it done.
Neighborhoods get together every so often, gather up all the local kittens, tie them into bags and toss them into rivers rather than get their cats neutered.

I don't want to sound like I'm bad mouthing Japan. I love this country, but its still Asia. Asia is no known for it's great animal treatment.

What america do you live in Submittard? 90 days maternity leave is mandated by law.

Omnis_evil_twin: When I first moved into my apartment here, my ward office gave me a Helpful Tips Pamphlet. Once section had info on where to license your pet. If you move and cannot take your pet, it said, please bring it to one of the following animal control locations for disposal. :'(

Well, it sounds like they phrased it euphemistically. They probably don't want to offend by telling people who move into an appartement "Don't be stupid, we have enough problems controlling the population of these lower lifeforms as it is, don't feed the Koreans by dumping cats and dogs on the street!".

moof: Omnis_evil_twin: When I first moved into my apartment here, my ward office gave me a Helpful Tips Pamphlet. Once section had info on where to license your pet. If you move and cannot take your pet, it said, please bring it to one of the following animal control locations for disposal. :'(

Well, it sounds like they phrased it euphemistically. They probably don't want to offend by telling people who move into an appartement "Don't be stupid, we have enough problems controlling the population of these lower lifeforms as it is, don't feed the Koreans by dumping cats and dogs on the street!".

Don't even get my started on the stray Korean situation here! Some people get their cats and dogs fixed but nobody ever gets their Koreans spayed or neutered. Almost every week I see Koreans who have been hit by cars lying to the side of the road. :'( And the shelters usually won't even try adopting them out. They get eithanized quicker than pit bulls in major American cities.

Omnis_evil_twin: moof: Omnis_evil_twin: When I first moved into my apartment here, my ward office gave me a Helpful Tips Pamphlet. Once section had info on where to license your pet. If you move and cannot take your pet, it said, please bring it to one of the following animal control locations for disposal. :'(

Well, it sounds like they phrased it euphemistically. They probably don't want to offend by telling people who move into an appartement "Don't be stupid, we have enough problems controlling the population of these lower lifeforms as it is, don't feed the Koreans by dumping cats and dogs on the street!".

Don't even get my started on the stray Korean situation here! Some people get their cats and dogs fixed but nobody ever gets their Koreans spayed or neutered. Almost every week I see Koreans who have been hit by cars lying to the side of the road. :'( And the shelters usually won't even try adopting them out. They get eithanized quicker than pit bulls in major American cities.

If you've got a stray Korean problem, I suggest you pick up some baited Korean traps (new window). Guaranteed 100% effective.

phukitol: maturnity leave is highly discriminatory:

you only recieve it if you're a woman and knocked up.

feel free to pop the kid in the employee bathroom, but dont make me have to take up your slack because you get a free vacation.

Some companies offer paternity leave. Like the one I work for.

Well submittard, if one animal medicine company in Japan gives out $9 a month for pets, that certainly gives you the right to complain about a completely unrelated situation in the USA.

Legislated maternity leave is bullshiat. Companies should be able to hire and fire whoever they want, whenever they want, and however they want. Pregnant woman are one reason why America is lagging behind countries like China and Japan economically. Our government is useless.

tbeatty: What america do you live in Submittard? 90 days maternity leave is mandated by law.

No, only if you work for a place with 50 employees or more. So, the subby is not a tard.

TheCid: UberDave: Well, Japanese people *really* like their pets...

I... what? Seriously, what the hell?

Why, it's Japan, of course!

Commie Nazi Terrorist: Legislated maternity leave is bullshiat. Companies should be able to hire and fire whoever they want, whenever they want, and however they want. Pregnant woman are one reason why America is lagging behind countries like China and Japan economically. Our government is useless.

Sorry, poor troll fu. Japan has parental leave, too, but it is more restrictive for men. And women can get partially payment of their salaries while on it, which is more generous than the U.S. Please play again.

Sorry, poor troll fu. Japan has parental leave, too, but it is more restrictive for men. And women can get partially payment of their salaries while on it, which is more generous than the U.S. Please play again.

Japan gets away with maternity/paternity leave because unlike Americans, they do not have a sense of entitlement. I have spoken to Japanese women before and they work extra hard to make up for lost time whereas in America, women are demanding and are always looking for ways to file sexual harassment suits because it is the easy way out. Japanese culture and their attitudes towards the workplace are much different than ours.

1000monkeys What the hell is going on there? Seriously.

Looks like they just like to eat pussy.

Where I work (in the US), we're not even allowed to call in sick. Ever. A guy was recently fired because his father died and he went to the funeral instead of coming in to work.

A union would come in handy, but most of us are immigrants who speak little english and are afraid of losing their jobs, so too fearful to form a union.

RaceBoatDriver: Or was that the idea?

Indeed. There are far too many children in the world.

I want free leave from work for when my cat is sick so I can be a less productive employee as well.

/saving for a tubal
// animals > kids any day, except for maybe baby goat kids

Commie Nazi Terrorist: Japan gets away with maternity/paternity leave because unlike Americans, they do not have a sense of entitlement.

HAHHAHAHAHA.

I have spoken to Japanese women before and they work extra hard to make up for lost time

MWAHAHAHHAA

whereas in America, women are demanding and are always looking for ways to file sexual harassment suits because it is the easy way out.

You don't get laid a lot, do you?

Japanese culture and their attitudes towards the workplace are much different than ours.

MWAHAHAHA. No. Japanese people just pretend better.

Commie Nazi Terrorist, there comes a time when you've gotta realize that your trolling attempts aren't working. Like, when you are actually called on it.

And then there comes a time -- a much more terrifying one, but a far more important time -- when you've gotta realize that if you're NOT trolling, your posts are actually so mind-bendingly farktarded, that they are indistinguishable from a genuine troll post.

That time might be now.

Commie Nazi Terrorist: Sorry, poor troll fu. Japan has parental leave, too, but it is more restrictive for men. And women can get partially payment of their salaries while on it, which is more generous than the U.S. Please play again.

Japan gets away with maternity/paternity leave because unlike Americans, they do not have a sense of entitlement. I have spoken to Japanese women before and they work extra hard to make up for lost time whereas in America, women are demanding and are always looking for ways to file sexual harassment suits because it is the easy way out. Japanese culture and their attitudes towards the workplace are much different than ours.

Translated: it's like working at Walmart, where you know the management will screw you if you stick up for yourself.

2chris2: Where I work (in the US), we're not even allowed to call in sick. Ever. A guy was recently fired because his father died and he went to the funeral instead of coming in to work.

There's probably a labor law or two being broken with the "no sick time" Unless you work for a drug dealer. Or you're making it up.

1000Monkeys: UberDave: Well, Japanese people *really* like their pets...

What the hell is going on there? Seriously.

That's Shoko Nakagawa, a rather unique celebrity in Japan. She's a singer, actress, model, blogger, manga artist, anime otaku, cosplayer, and daughter of a famous singer. And she loves cats. Ok, maybe putting her cat's nose in her mouth is a little weird...

Submitter:

Bravo on the maternity leave reference. A lot of people do not realize that you might be entitled to 90 days maternity leave in the US BUT Your job is only there for you if you have FMLA to protect it. If you are employed there for less then a year you can be screwed. I know from first hand expierence. We don't get it paid like in Europe. So we are not the best supportive country for anything. We outsource all our jobs to the lowest bidder and you can get fired for just about any reason that you have to take off for. And you are expected in most situations to come to work while you are ill... Too many days off for that and you are also fired even with a dr's note. No FMLA and you are a pawn waiting to be fired.

ButaneBlender: 2chris2: Where I work (in the US), we're not even allowed to call in sick. Ever. A guy was recently fired because his father died and he went to the funeral instead of coming in to work.

There's probably a labor law or two being broken with the "no sick time" Unless you work for a drug dealer. Or you're making it up.

No, technically speaking we're self employed "independent contractors", so labor laws apparently don't apply to us.

MWAHAHAHA. No. Japanese people just pretend better.

If you are referring to the younger Japanese crowd, please keep in mind that they have adopted this attitude from western cultures such as American movies and Hip Hop music containing anti-capitalistic messages.

Commie Nazi Terrorist, there comes a time when you've gotta realize that your trolling attempts aren't working. Like, when you are actually called on it.

And then there comes a time -- a much more terrifying one, but a far more important time -- when you've gotta realize that if you're NOT trolling, your posts are actually so mind-bendingly farktarded, that they are indistinguishable from a genuine troll post.

That time might be now.

In other words, you have nothing to contribute to this discussion. If your goal was to get a response out of me, then good job.

Translated: it's like working at Walmart, where you know the management will screw you if you stick up for yourself.

Here's an idea, how about saving your money for an education instead of blowing it on expensive electronics and houses that you can't afford so you don't have to work at Walmart?

Commie Nazi Terrorist:
OHHHH. The assumption that I work for Walmart. Nice troll touch. But when you accused me of "blowing it on expensive electronics and houses that you can't afford" and not having an education? You overreached. I give you a 5/10.

Commie Nazi Terrorist: MWAHAHAHA. No. Japanese people just pretend better.

If you are referring to the younger Japanese crowd, please keep in mind that they have adopted this attitude from western cultures such as American movies and Hip Hop music containing anti-capitalistic messages.

...

Here's an idea, how about saving your money for an education instead of blowing it on expensive electronics and houses that you can't afford so you don't have to work at Walmart?

Have you ever worked at a Japanese company? I'm curious if you have first-hand knowledge of the Great Japanese Work Ethic.

/Lives and works in Japan but only getting a smaller, more fuel efficient kick out of these replies.

ciocia: Commie Nazi Terrorist:
OHHHH. The assumption that I work for Walmart. Nice troll touch. But when you accused me of "blowing it on expensive electronics and houses that you can't afford" and not having an education? You overreached. I give you a 5/10.

That's rather generous. I mean, he(?) played the Black Music Ruining The Youth card. I give it a 3/10.

Omnis_evil_twin: ciocia: Commie Nazi Terrorist:
OHHHH. The assumption that I work for Walmart. Nice troll touch. But when you accused me of "blowing it on expensive electronics and houses that you can't afford" and not having an education? You overreached. I give you a 5/10.

That's rather generous. I mean, he(?) played the Black Music Ruining The Youth card. I give it a 3/10.

Wow. I totally overlooked that because I'm not black. You are a true driscriminating judge of teh troll.

OHHHH. The assumption that I work for Walmart. Nice troll touch. But when you accused me of "blowing it on expensive electronics and houses that you can't afford" and not having an education? You overreached. I give you a 5/10.


I was referring to people in general and not specifically you. In case you have been living under a rock, Americans have not been fiscally responsible for many years. That's the whole point of our current housing crisis that we have now.

Commie Nazi Terrorist: MWAHAHAHA. No. Japanese people just pretend better.

If you are referring to the younger Japanese crowd, please keep in mind that they have adopted this attitude from western cultures such as American movies and Hip Hop music containing anti-capitalistic messages

I'm refering to everyone. And your presumption that the youth of Japan had to wait for Western culture to come and save them is insulting.

Have you ever worked at a Japanese company? I'm curious if you have first-hand knowledge of the Great Japanese Work Ethic.


That was the impression I got from the people I spoke with. Care to enlighten me?

phukitol in europe?
here in germany they get a fat maternity or paternity leave by law.

And Germany's unemployment rate is roughly double that of the United States. Coincidence?

Submittard, seems like one of Fark's necessary idiots, with retarded comparisons to stir shiat up. It's one company offering incentives to their employees to care for pets better, which is a good idea to bring attention to caring for animals. As far as maternity leave, I had friends who had great maternity plans both in Japan and Canada, depending on the job. The only point of retarded headlines for pointless articles is to stir the shiat-pot up a little more.

Commie Nazi Terrorist: Have you ever worked at a Japanese company? I'm curious if you have first-hand knowledge of the Great Japanese Work Ethic.


That was the impression I got from the people I spoke with. Care to enlighten me?


So, that's a no?
Try it sometime. Japan is the land of inefficiency.

desolationrow: Submittard, seems like one of Fark's necessary idiots, with retarded comparisons to stir shiat up. It's one company offering incentives to their employees to care for pets better, which is a good idea to bring attention to caring for animals. As far as maternity leave, I had friends who had great maternity plans both in Japan and Canada, depending on the job. The only point of retarded headlines for pointless articles is to stir the shiat-pot up a little more.

Mai oui. You have to have a gender war angle for stuff to get greenlit, so that frustrated farkers would start a flamewar. Try it on your own submissions, and see if it works.

desolationrow: The only point of retarded headlines for pointless articles is to stir the shiat-pot up a little more.

Don't be silly! These threads are made so that people can discuss their well-researched, logical, first-person views on Japanese culture!

Sheesh. You've been in Japan long enough to know that foreigners who don't speak Japanese know TONNES about J-culture. Am I right? Yes I am. Right, I mean.

Omnis_evil_twin: Japan is the land of inefficiency.

You'd never know from the Yokosuka shipyard workers. Those dudes are farking awesome!

Omnis_evil_twin: Try it sometime. Japan is the land of inefficiency.

Nononono. Land of Unefficacious Efficiency. Which must be discussed in meetings headed by semi-retired 75 year old men who spend most days fishing, except when they come to Unefficacious Efficiency meetings, at which they take up the first 15 minutes of the 120 minute meeting on giving introductions, greetings/commiserations for the new year/old year/birthday/death of the sub-manager's pet/lunch, and then gives inspiration on beating whatever is inefficient.

At this point they pass the microphone to semi-retired 75 year old man B, who then speaks for the next 15 minutes, saying exactly the same things as the man who came before, but because it's coming from him it's obviously more inspirational. This continues until either you run out of old men, or you run out of time, at which point the meeting agenda is thrown away, and the last 4 minutes and 41 seconds are spent planning out a new meeting for next week.

At which exactly the same thing happens. Luckily, the people who are actually in charge, fixed the problem over lunch the day before. THe meetings are just there to make the retired guys feel like they have something to do.

bakarocket
Don't be silly! These threads are made so that people can discuss their well-researched, logical, first-person views on Japanese culture!
Sheesh. You've been in Japan long enough to know that foreigners who don't speak Japanese know TONNES about J-culture. Am I right? Yes I am. Right, I mean.

Yes sir, right is what you are. Armed with this new perspective, I'm more than eager to learn heaps about Japanese culture that even the Japanese themselves may have no idea exists!