...and the worst thing he can say about Barack is that he's "too academic and philosophical." Nice, John. VP slot's all warmed up.

robsul82: ...and the worst thing he can say about Barack is that he's "too academic and philosophical." Nice, John. VP slot's all warmed up.

I think that is a bad precedent though - unless I'm mistaken, you have to go all the way back to Thomas Hendricks for the one and only VP to be on a winning ticket after losing as a VP before.

Not that that isn't probably neither here nor there, since VP's rarely make the difference in a presidential election, but, the Democrats will have enough groundbreaking things going on if Obama is the nominee.

Plus, I don't think Edwards is popular enough in NC to actually deliver his home state, vs. someone like Bayh who might be able to switch a usually GOP for president voting state.

Doesn't mean he might not get the VP nod, but, I wouldn't offer it to him again. His shot was president this time, and he couldn't do it, most likely.

Edwards is an ass.

Bayh was Governor when I lived in Indiana. I thought he was excellent, and I usually vote Republican. Every Democrat running should be seriously considering him as a running mate. I would even have a hard time voting against Hillery if he were her VP. I hope that never happens.

Obama/Edwards deal might be back on, as Edwards is pretty much campaigning through New Hampshire on the "Hillary is done" platform will win in November.

FTFY.

I could deal with that.

I still want the far too difficult to spell Kuchinich to take it all, but Obama/Edwards really wouldn't be that hard to stomach. And would get my vote.

Edwards single-handedly kept me from voting for Kerry in 2004 and though I've been open-minded about Obama, I wouldn't vote for him if he taps Edwards for VP. And this time, I won't just vote third party, but I'll vote Republican and lobby everyone within earshot to do the same. I will never support a ticket with that slimeball on it.

Edwards has been hostile to Obama since Iowa. Attacks, refusing to congratulate him as Hillary did, and calling him a sell-out. Won't happen.

/hoping for Feingold or Biden

Bad use of the Cool tag. Edwards is dumbass. Obama, though, seems to have my vote at this point.

Bad call.

With all the Republicans that are considering voting Obama, the best course is to pick up a moderate Republican for a unity ticket. Like Bloomberg.

Picking some super-populist makes Obama a more divisive candidate.

Honestly, I think Obama's gotta go with Biden, to counter the "no foreign policy" attack. He go with Richardson, but two minorities would be too much for this country to handle.

McManus_brothers: Honestly, I think Obama's gotta go with Biden, to counter the "no foreign policy" attack. He go with Richardson, but two minorities would be too much for this country to handle.

i started thinking Obama/Biden as soon as Biden dropped out... Clinton/Edwards might make Clinton more palatable for a lot of people, but that looks unlikely at this point.

I wouldnt count Hillary out just yet.
She is still polling above B. Hussein Obama in New Hampshire.
If you look at the history of Iowa, its pretty obvious that a win there does not equal the parties nomination.
1992 - Tom Harkin (76%)-Bill Clinton (3%)
thats even true on the Republican side:
1980- George H. W. Bush (32%), Ronald Reagan (30%)
Hillary has focused on New Hampshire alot more than she ever did in Iowa just because she knows that Iowa is not important.
Giuliani is still a strong contender on the Republican side and he never even bothered to show his face in Iowa (can you blame him?).
Hillary still has the Clinton name and the Clinton machine behind her.
B. Hussein Obama still has no experience, and can already count on losing the southern states just because of his race. (not to mention that lovely name his parents bestowed on him!)
Team Hillary will take the nomination, mark my words.

I'd still like to see Obama-Lugar. Unfortunately, Lugar's a crusty old GOP stalwart who wouldn't dare offend the hand that feeds him. I won't hold my breath.

Are you all enjoying the Democrat candidates basically repeating the Bush doctrine on foreign policy with some very slight modifications?

Yeah, I bet you like that.

Hillary4real! For the love of God, if you are going to troll, do it in short bursts! No one wants to read through a 30 line dissertation where you try to call him a terrorist.

How many times do I have to tell you?

/the picture was a step in the right direction though

/referring to the abc debate

I'd like to see Edwards as VP but from a general election standpoint there is no benefit to him joining the ticket, and actually a lot of downsides. Obama will go with someone with a lot of experience, particularly in foreign policy, which is why I think Biden or Richardson will get the nod if it is any of the current/former candidates.

I don't think any of this is posturing for a VP position anyway. I think Edwards is going after Clinton out of both a real desire to see some change and a realization that he has a much better chance of knocking down Clinton and picking up the scraps than trying to do the same to Obama. Obama is riding a huge wave of momentum now, while Hillary is essentially tanking. His best chance would be to hope that he would gain more former Hillary supporters than Obama when Clinton drops out.

However, that's not all that likely to happen. Edwards is low on funds and didn't distance himself from Clinton by enough to gain any momentum from Iowa. Hillary still has a huge war chest and I wouldn't doubt that she's going to try to fight it until the bitter end. Edwards just rightfully realizes that a guy who spent several years of his life as a community organizer in Chicago is probably much more likely to champion the same issues he has than a woman who has spent the last 15 years in Washington.

If he comes in 3rd in NH, which is looking pretty likely, he's essentially finished. shiat, Clinton should be subsidizing his campaign right now; the longer he stays in it the more chance she has. I wouldn't be suprised to see Obama pick up over 60% of the vote in SC is Edwards drops out beforehand.

I like Richardson. Oh well.

If you're watching the debate, they're both taking turns tearing Hillary a new one.

/don't use your imagination

please god no. Edwards embodies everything wrong the democratic party.

Obama/Richardson would be nice, but won't happen. Obama/Dodd or Biden is more likely.

Its not a deal buddy, he is using Obama to destroy Hillary in the north because he thinks he can use bubbas to destroy Obama in South.

<sub>/in debates he is referring to himself and Obama as agents of change and Hillary as "status quo"

/down south it will be something else</sub>

"I've been in hostage negotiations that were more civil than this!"

Good shot, Gov. Richardson!

Obama rally today was awesome.

Obama/Bayh.

hillary4real: She is still polling above B. Hussein Obama in New Hampshire.

So, now Obama goes by his middle name??

I noticed you didn't call Hillary, H. Rodham Clinton. Why is that?

stiletto_the_wise: hillary4real: She is still polling above B. Hussein Obama in New Hampshire.

So, now Obama goes by his middle name??

I noticed you didn't call Hillary, H. Rodham Clinton. Why is that?

Gee...I wonder why....

stiletto_the_wise: hillary4real: She is still polling above B. Hussein Obama in New Hampshire.

So, now Obama goes by his middle name??

I noticed you didn't call Hillary, H. Rodham Clinton. Why is that?

Because right wing douchebags like to point out that "OMG HIZ MIDDUL NAME IZ HUSSEIN!!11 AND HIS LAST NAME SOUNDZ LIKE OSAMA

hillary4real:

Gee...I wonder why....

Wow. . . How shopped we am.
This 'shop does nothing more than to dwindle your point and make you look that much sillier.

Good job, Ace!

I think Edwards is looking snaky and I'm pretty sure the spin room boys will say the same. Edwards will open his next 4 hours to media and spit fire at Hillary and some at Obama.

I don't think he's vying for a VP position; I think he's committed himself through South Carolina and he wants to keep Hillary in the trash. And I don't care how many people say it, she's not THAT bad off. A loss in New Hampshire and her campaign goes national and lets a few early states go to Obama. All of a sudden we're back in a strange Hillary/Guliani paradox that until everyone else goes national...they have the national stage.

Weird.

I like Obama/Biden...best possible ticket.

dletter: Plus, I don't think Edwards is popular enough in NC to actually deliver his home state, vs. someone like Bayh who might be able to switch a usually GOP for president voting state.

I can say, as a resident of Chapel Hill, NC, that everyone hates Edwards here. We don't just dislike him, we hate him. Liberals, conservatives, Democrats, Republicans, socialists, libertarians, etc... North Carolina hates Edwards. He represents a lot of bad things and we've seen them first hang. There is no one else in the field I hate more, with only Huckabee running a close second.

I think Hillary's answer on troop removal was pretty well done. It's too bad the entire country's stomachs wrenched as soon as her eyelid thing jiggled.

I'm not saying that I have a problem with it, but, do you really think Billybob voter from backwoods Georgia will be okay with voting for a colored who has a name like that?
The reality is that things like that DO matter in a nationwide election.
Dem's know it, I was one for many years, and you are damned right that I could not get behind someone with a name like that.

Do you really think that Adolph Higler would stand a chance, even if he was the best candidate for the job?

it may seem like a petty thing to you, but, the electorate IS petty.
Bush didnt win on his record, he won because he was someone who people wanted to have a beer with. Petty? yes. Reality? yes.
Dems know it, and so do you.
You just have a harder time admitting it because you foolishly think he has a chance.
Again, mark my words, Hillary has the nomination.

RalphDClark: I can say, as a resident of Chapel Hill, NC, that everyone hates Edwards here. We don't just dislike him, we hate him. Liberals, conservatives, Democrats, Republicans, socialists, libertarians, etc... North Carolina hates Edwards. He represents a lot of bad things and we've seen them first hang. There is no one else in the field I hate more, with only Huckabee running a close second.

Why? Please be specific.

Just wishing here....

Obama/Biden as the ticket
Richardson as Sec-State
Edwards as AG
Feingold as the next SCOTUS nominee

Craptastic: Just wishing here....

Thank god. What did you do, just line up some important positions in the government with the names of some random well-known Democrats? Christ, that list stinks of idiocy. Edwards as AG? FEINGOLD for the supreme court? Bwahahah you win the most absurd comment of the day award.

I'm not understanding the Edwards hate. Plenty of namecalling going on, and not one specific. He's the only one I hear out there who's pointed out that we're going to have to fight the entrenced corporate entities to get them out of our government, not give them a seat at the table to try and get some crumbs for regular people.

hillary4real: I'm not saying that I have a problem with it, but, do you really think Billybob voter from backwoods Georgia will be okay with voting for a colored who has a name like that?

Please. I've met my share of racist, ignorant, hillbillies, and I don't know anyone who would refuse to vote for someone because of his name.

One thing I'll give you: There is still that tiny minority out there who won't vote for a black person, but they're dying off and are probably going to be extinct a few elections from now. I'd bet they're statistically a rounding error. People are a lot more thoughtful than you give them credit for.

Shaggy_C: Craptastic: Just wishing here....

Thank god. What did you do, just line up some important positions in the government with the names of some random well-known Democrats? Christ, that list stinks of idiocy. Edwards as AG? FEINGOLD for the supreme court? Bwahahah you win the most absurd comment of the day award.

Suck my balls, asshole.

stiletto_the_wise
Please. I've met my share of racist, ignorant, hillbillies, and I don't know anyone who would refuse to vote for someone because of his name.

One thing I'll give you: There is still that tiny minority out there who won't vote for a black person, but they're dying off and are probably going to be extinct a few elections from now. I'd bet they're statistically a rounding error. People are a lot more thoughtful than you give them credit for.

You have never lived around hillbillies liar.

Joey JoJo Junior Shabadoo: Edwards is an ass.



/not mine (pops)

Did anyone stop to think that maybe Obama is a terrorist planted candidate and is only set on handing the country over to Islamic extremists?

//Or maybe I'm thinking of a Simpsons episode. I don't know.

Craptastic: Suck my balls, asshole.

I take it by not defending or explaining your list that you accept that it's absurd.

In my dream world, we'd have

Rosie O'Donell/Roseanne as the ticket
Shaq as Sec-State
Walker Texas Ranger as AG
Peyton Manning as the next SCOTUS nominee

cambie: Did anyone stop to think that maybe Obama is a terrorist planted candidate and is only set on handing the country over to Islamic extremists?

I think 9iu11ani would better fit the mold...

Beemer: I'm not understanding the Edwards hate.

John Edwards made his millions as a trial lawyer, representing plaintiffs, where he focused on malpractice and product liability. He's sued dozens of doctors, and the American Red Cross. He's a leach on society. Spent his career siphoning off multi-million dollar judgments from people, all the while increasing health care and product costs for everyone else.

I don't hate the guy, but he certainly does not represent me. His background, specifically his choice of career, makes me question his ethics and personal character.

Craptastic: Just wishing here....

Obama/Biden as the ticket
Richardson as Sec-State
Edwards as AG
Feingold as the next SCOTUS nominee

OMG. Feingold in the Supreme Court. *swoon* It's perfect, and it never occurred to me.

RalphDClark: dletter: Plus, I don't think Edwards is popular enough in NC to actually deliver his home state, vs. someone like Bayh who might be able to switch a usually GOP for president voting state.

I can say, as a resident of Chapel Hill, NC, that everyone hates Edwards here. We don't just dislike him, we hate him. Liberals, conservatives, Democrats, Republicans, socialists, libertarians, etc... North Carolina hates Edwards. He represents a lot of bad things and we've seen them first hang. There is no one else in the field I hate more, with only Huckabee running a close second.

I was pretty sure that was the case in NC, but, I'm not from there so I didn't want to make that statement.

As was stated by someone else, Bayh is very popular in Indiana, across the board. He might even give the state to Hillary, but, Hillary might be alienating enough that Bayh couldn't even help enough. If its Obama or Edwards though, I'm not sure there is a GOP candidate that would get the state over Obama/Bayh.

Yes, trial lawyers are BAD, BAD, BAD.

If only we had a system that allowed each side in a dispute to present their facts to a small group of average citizens, and just let them decide.

Oh wait, that IS how it works.

Every time someone loses a lawsuit they claim they were treated unfairly, and just because some members of an occupation are unscrupulous, it doesn't mean they all are.

I'm ready to vote for Charlie Gibson.

MollyMalone74: OMG. Feingold in the Supreme Court. *swoon* It's perfect, and it never occurred to me.


My dear lord...the stupid is spreading. Is this like people who think a Kucinich/Ron Paul ticket would be the perfect presidency?

Longtime Lurker: please god no. Edwards embodies everything wrong the democratic party.

Obama/Richardson would be nice, but won't happen. Obama/Dodd or Biden is more likely.

I live in NM. So does Richardson.