Will Spidey adopt the U.N.'s practices of child rape? Will he adopt the U.N.'s attitude of "putting America in it's place"? Will he preside over and attempt to cover up huge scandals a la "oil for food"? I don't think SpiderMan has thought this one all the way through; his reputation would fare better if he alligned with Doc Oc, or cancer.

This is like the 4th time this article as been posted in the last few weeks.


I didn't care the first time.

John Bolton calling the UN desperate... That's the best laugh I've had all year. That was worth the whole article.

Pre-One More Day or post-One More Day?

Spider Pig would be so much better.

Aboleth: Pre-One More Day or post-One More Day?

Yeah, lets not talk about that. Or the Clone Saga.

I want one.

Give me a break. Spidey is obviously trying to give the third-world dictators, child rapists, and Ted Turner a false sense of security so he can defeat them all at once.

Oh for f*ck's sake.
Lame.
FAIL

The farking UN...jeez...they are completely irrelevant, but people continue to listen.

What's worse is that people in our country, mostly on the left, want the US to abide by the ridiculous standards/laws/rules that the UN attempts to adopt.

It's time to tell the UN to eat a bowl of dicks as we officially quit the organization.

What's worse is that people in our country, mostly on the left, want the US to abide by the ridiculous standards/laws/rules that the UN attempts to adopt.

How about abiding by some of the little ones, like human rights (that we helped create) and not invading other countries without cause... Ooo. And paying our dues... how about that.. Hey I got another wild idea.. Let's go crazy and start abiding by our own constitution and see how that goes.

Come on... The UN is farked up, but so are we. He who is without sin and all that crap.

Hells nah, he be makin' dealz wit da devil and shiat dawg

Yes, that's all we need, submitter - more people like the UN.

I like the UN because they don't go to war every other second unlike some military mights.

How about abiding by some of the little ones, like human rights (that we helped create) and not invading other countries without cause... Ooo. And paying our dues... how about that.. Hey I got another wild idea.. Let's go crazy and start abiding by our own constitution and see how that goes.

Come on... The UN is farked up, but so are we. He who is without sin and all that crap.

If anything, the US attempts to do more for human rights than any other country in the world. Oh, I suppose you are probably talking about other countries disobeying the rules, and the US not solving their problems for them? Or maybe you should just STFU and look in the direction of Libya, Cuba, Sudan, Algeria, and Vietnam before saying the US doesn't follow human rights policies.

As for invading other countries without cause, many would disagree with that notion. There was cause: to remove a dictator who wanted to kill Americans, and to install a democracy into an unstable region. It may not have been perfect or easy, but there was a cause.

Last but not least, why should the US pay dues to a farking organization that has Liechtenstein with essentially the same voting power? Why should the US pay when the smaller, newly independent nations want to change the ways of the UN that don't suit American interest? Why should the US pay when Third World country voting blocks form together in the interest of that which is opposite of US goals and interests?

The US has problems, but the UN is ricockulous.

/We do abide by our Constitution

An article about the UN.

Cue the deranged rantings of toothless mouth-breathing Americans decrying the evils of the UN.

So here is a pre-emptive STFU.

Your country was instrumental in its founding.

Your country is totally in favour of bludgeoning other countries over the head when they don't follow UN resolutions to the letter.

Yet when the UN has the temerity to disagree with the US you are up in arms about how its out to get you.

Seriously grow the fark up, you can't have everything your own way. International relations are a matter of compromise.

AskI like the UN because they don't go to war every other second unlike some military mights.

Well, that would be because they do absolutely nothing. Or perhaps you are forgetting a certain resolution (i.e. 1441) and the ten before it, that were ignored for so long, and were essentially toothless nonsense that Iraq used to wipe their asses.

NiceBeaver: How about abiding by some of the little ones, like human rights (that we helped create) and not invading other countries without cause... Ooo. And paying our dues... how about that.. Hey I got another wild idea.. Let's go crazy and start abiding by our own constitution and see how that goes.

Come on... The UN is farked up, but so are we. He who is without sin and all that crap.

If anything, the US attempts to do more for human rights than any other country in the world. Oh, I suppose you are probably talking about other countries disobeying the rules, and the US not solving their problems for them? Or maybe you should just STFU and look in the direction of Libya, Cuba, Sudan, Algeria, and Vietnam before saying the US doesn't follow human rights policies.

As for invading other countries without cause, many would disagree with that notion. There was cause: to remove a dictator who wanted to kill Americans, and to install a democracy into an unstable region. It may not have been perfect or easy, but there was a cause.

Last but not least, why should the US pay dues to a farking organization that has Liechtenstein with essentially the same voting power? Why should the US pay when the smaller, newly independent nations want to change the ways of the UN that don't suit American interest? Why should the US pay when Third World country voting blocks form together in the interest of that which is opposite of US goals and interests?

The US has problems, but the UN is ricockulous.

/We do abide by our Constitution

Oh yeah you guys are paragons of virtue, seriously get the cock out of your mouth, crawl out of your intellectual bunker and study your countries history with an open mind and see if you come to the same conclusions that just crawled out of your anus and on to the keyboard giving us all the misfortune of having to read them.

OZZ: *Slurp slurp slurp* Mmmmm, I love the U.N. I hope it takes me to prom! *slurp slurp slurp*

NiceBeaver: /We do abide by our Constitution

funniest thing I've heard all week. Seriously, ever since, oh, about the end of the CIVIL WAR it's been government policy that the "elastic clause" nullifies the tenth amendment (and just about any other part of the document) whenever Congress decides that following the rules is inconvenient.

OZZ: Cue the deranged rantings of toothless mouth-breathing Americans decrying the evils of the UN.

Or, cue the bigoted stereotyping by deluded UN fellators.

Or maybe just you, you beacon of intelligent discourse you.

Ask 2008-01-05 09:20:22 AM
I like the UN because they don't go to war every other second unlike some military mights.


Those snappy U.N. letters going to darfur, how's that working out for ya?

mouth-breathing

I never understood this as an insult. So I have congestion problems! I'd do something about it but teh doctors say decongestants will cause a drug interaction! STOP MAKIN FUNS OF ME!

The Billdozer: OZZ: *Slurp slurp slurp* Mmmmm, I love the U.N. I hope it takes me to prom! *slurp slurp slurp*

I've seen some pretty immature shiat on Fark, but this takes the cake.

NiceBeaver: The farking UN...jeez...they are completely irrelevant, but people continue to listen.

What's worse is that people in our country, mostly on the left, want the US to abide by the ridiculous standards/laws/rules that the UN attempts to adopt.

It's time to tell the UN to eat a bowl of dicks as we officially quit the organization.

You farking brain dead idiots all spout the same bullshiat. You're about as complex as a poorly written program. You don't know why you hate the UN but you sure hate the UN. You were told to hate them so that America can justify its serial lack of payment of its dues. You call the UN feckless while the US keeps them unfunded to keep them that way. The way they like them. If the UN ever actually had enough money to be meaningful they'd hinder the legitimacy of US unilateral action.

So... does this mean that Spidey is an anti-semite?

OZZ: An article about the UN.

Cue the deranged rantings of toothless mouth-breathing Americans decrying the evils of the UN.

So here is a pre-emptive STFU.

Your country was instrumental in its founding.

Your country is totally in favour of bludgeoning other countries over the head when they don't follow UN resolutions to the letter.

Yet when the UN has the temerity to disagree with the US you are up in arms about how its out to get you.

Seriously grow the fark up, you can't have everything your own way. International relations are a matter of compromise.

Compromise is good, no doubt, but the US shouldn't have to kowtow to a tiny ass country that doesn't pull it's weight in foreign aid or any number of other arenas in which the US is one of the few major contributors. And when one of the countries with which we disagree is say, Syria, and several countries vote in Syria's favor, then there is understandable outrage.

Arguining and debating over small topics is one thing, but going against what we think is right just because several countries like Syria, Iran, and China formed a UN, hand-holding friendship similar to the Islamic Conference, well, that's just bass-ackwards.

Repeat?

/Too lazy to search the archives.

There was cause: to remove a dictator who wanted to kill Americans, and to install a democracy into an unstable region. It may not have been perfect or easy, but there was a cause.

Last but not least, why should the US pay dues to a farking organization that has Liechtenstein with essentially the same voting power? Why should the US pay when the smaller, newly independent nations want to change the ways of the UN that don't suit American interest? Why should the US pay when Third World country voting blocks form together in the interest of that which is opposite of US goals and interests?

Wow. Where have YOU been the last eight years?

1) We invaded Iraq to get WMDs, and to fight terrorism. Too bad they had nothing to do with terrorism and we never found WMDs. Then suddenly overnight, the war became about removing Hussein and installing a democracy. Great job so far, by the way.

2) Since when is the UN about protecting US interests, and why should we expect it to be? We are one of over 120 countries. Those other countries get upset with us when we mess with them, just like we do when they mess with us. The UN was formed so that there would be some other way to resolve these issues besides fighting, and that's pretty much all there is to it.

3) You are absolutely correct about getting out of the UN if we don't agree with what they're doing, but we won't. Why not? Because whatever international credibility we have will go right down the drain. In the meantime while we are still members of the UN, we need to sit down, shut up and start realizing that there are other countries out there and their interests don't lay with XBoxes and Hummers so much as finding the next meal and not getting shot.

Here's a thought: Let's try to actually BE the great nation we tell everyone we already are. Then maybe they might start listening to us.

But that's just my own humble opinion. Being honorable doesn't seem to be fashionable these days, so what do I know?

Phil Moskowitz: NiceBeaver: The farking UN...jeez...they are completely irrelevant, but people continue to listen.

What's worse is that people in our country, mostly on the left, want the US to abide by the ridiculous standards/laws/rules that the UN attempts to adopt.

It's time to tell the UN to eat a bowl of dicks as we officially quit the organization.

You farking brain dead idiots all spout the same bullshiat. You're about as complex as a poorly written program. You don't know why you hate the UN but you sure hate the UN. You were told to hate them so that America can justify its serial lack of payment of its dues. You call the UN feckless while the US keeps them unfunded to keep them that way. The way they like them. If the UN ever actually had enough money to be meaningful they'd hinder the legitimacy of US unilateral action.

Umm, how about their turning a blind eye to the Rwandan Genocide? Darfur Genocide? How they criticized Israel for trying to prevent the Christian Genocide in Lebanon? How they criticize Israel for self-defense? How they allowed American soldiers to fight without requested back-up in Mogadishu? How about how asshole diplomats flagerantly violate laws on the streets of New York and hide behind diplomatic immunity?

For non-Americans frustrated at American anti-UN sentiment -

It's like this: Why would we voluntarily give up our superpower status to play nice?

When has any country ever done that?

It's like the old saying goes, "power corrupts, and absolute power is actually really cool."

Phil Moskowitz: NiceBeaver: The farking UN...jeez...they are completely irrelevant, but people continue to listen.

What's worse is that people in our country, mostly on the left, want the US to abide by the ridiculous standards/laws/rules that the UN attempts to adopt.

It's time to tell the UN to eat a bowl of dicks as we officially quit the organization.

You farking brain dead idiots all spout the same bullshiat. You're about as complex as a poorly written program. You don't know why you hate the UN but you sure hate the UN. You were told to hate them so that America can justify its serial lack of payment of its dues. You call the UN feckless while the US keeps them unfunded to keep them that way. The way they like them. If the UN ever actually had enough money to be meaningful they'd hinder the legitimacy of US unilateral action.

This!

We complain that the UN has no claws and in the same breath complain that the UN doesnt like what we do and should be disbanded. We declawed the UN purposefully because we dont want it messing on our business, just other countries business.

The UN only talks and sends letters because the permament security council members only let it do that. If we actually gave it the power to intervene we would be aghast the first time it told us what to do.

OZZ: Oh yeah you guys are paragons of virtue, seriously get the cock out of your mouth, crawl out of your intellectual bunker and study your countries history with an open mind and see if you come to the same conclusions that just crawled out of your anus and on to the keyboard giving us all the misfortune of having to read them.

Typical. Name-calling when there clearly isn't a point. Try taking the monster cock out of your ass, get out of your dorm room, stop listening to nonsense, try opening a book, and then we'll talk.

Like I said, there are problems. No country in the world is perfect, but following the rules of an organization like the UN is farking jello-pudding pop factory retarded.

StampedingElephant: Phil Moskowitz: NiceBeaver: The farking UN...jeez...they are completely irrelevant, but people continue to listen.

What's worse is that people in our country, mostly on the left, want the US to abide by the ridiculous standards/laws/rules that the UN attempts to adopt.

It's time to tell the UN to eat a bowl of dicks as we officially quit the organization.

You farking brain dead idiots all spout the same bullshiat. You're about as complex as a poorly written program. You don't know why you hate the UN but you sure hate the UN. You were told to hate them so that America can justify its serial lack of payment of its dues. You call the UN feckless while the US keeps them unfunded to keep them that way. The way they like them. If the UN ever actually had enough money to be meaningful they'd hinder the legitimacy of US unilateral action.

Umm, how about their turning a blind eye to the Rwandan Genocide? Darfur Genocide? How they criticized Israel for trying to prevent the Christian Genocide in Lebanon? How they criticize Israel for self-defense? How they allowed American soldiers to fight without requested back-up in Mogadishu? How about how asshole diplomats flagerantly violate laws on the streets of New York and hide behind diplomatic immunity?


Do you even have the slightest idea about how the UN brings up issues? :)

Staypuft_Mushmallow_Manz: For non-Americans frustrated at American anti-UN sentiment -

It's like this: Why would we voluntarily give up our superpower status to play nice?

When has any country ever done that?

It's like the old saying goes, "power corrupts, and absolute power is actually really cool."

Could you please get some reading comprehension? Seriously, STFU when grown people are talking.

If the elastic clause is part of the Constitution that allows for implied power, and that happens to provide for gray area, then that means the US IS STILL FOLLOWING THE CONSTITUTION! Please understand enumerated powers before opening your pie hole again. kthxbye

LordJiro: The Billdozer: OZZ: *Slurp slurp slurp* Mmmmm, I love the U.N. I hope it takes me to prom! *slurp slurp slurp*

I've seen some pretty immature shiat on Fark, but this takes the cake.

Welcome to Fark. It will open your eyes, and get MUCH worse.

NiceBeaver: Staypuft_Mushmallow_Manz: For non-Americans frustrated at American anti-UN sentiment -

It's like this: Why would we voluntarily give up our superpower status to play nice?

When has any country ever done that?

It's like the old saying goes, "power corrupts, and absolute power is actually really cool."

Could you please get some reading comprehension? Seriously, STFU when grown people are talking.

If the elastic clause is part of the Constitution that allows for implied power, and that happens to provide for gray area, then that means the US IS STILL FOLLOWING THE CONSTITUTION! Please understand enumerated powers before opening your pie hole again. kthxbye

Is this random post day? Did i miss the announcement?

headslap:
oh, no. I biatched about the elastic clause earlier, and evidently made myself a target.

Whoops! My bad then, apologies Beaver!

NiceBeaver: LordJiro: The Billdozer: OZZ: *Slurp slurp slurp* Mmmmm, I love the U.N. I hope it takes me to prom! *slurp slurp slurp*

I've seen some pretty immature shiat on Fark, but this takes the cake.

Welcome to Fark. It will open your eyes, and get MUCH worse.

It's going to get worse before it gets better.

Haha, good old america. Invasions, skyrocketing infant mortality rates in more than one country, nationalism, greed and blatant murder, but everyone else is at fault. Yeah, damn that U.N. and their bullshiat.

Is this random post day? Did i miss the announcement?


Yup.. Looks like... :)

Phil Moskowitz: NiceBeaver: The farking UN...jeez...they are completely irrelevant, but people continue to listen.

What's worse is that people in our country, mostly on the left, want the US to abide by the ridiculous standards/laws/rules that the UN attempts to adopt.

It's time to tell the UN to eat a bowl of dicks as we officially quit the organization.

You farking brain dead idiots all spout the same bullshiat. You're about as complex as a poorly written program. You don't know why you hate the UN but you sure hate the UN. You were told to hate them so that America can justify its serial lack of payment of its dues. You call the UN feckless while the US keeps them unfunded to keep them that way. The way they like them. If the UN ever actually had enough money to be meaningful they'd hinder the legitimacy of US unilateral action.

So it's the obligation of the US to pay for every little dumbass thing the UN wants to do? Or maybe you should focus attention at France and Russia who didn't pony up after the Congo crisis? Before the UN started acting up, doing all sorts of dumb shiat, and letting countries like Syria have an equal vote, the US was funding a quarter of the budget!

When they end the practice of putting human rights violating countries on human rights boards, and when the internal corruption ends, we'll pay more than the massive amount we already pay (which is still more than any other country anyway).

/Cry me a farking river

Wow.. I thought I would have a nice flame job after my last post.

Does that mean I won? Where's my award?

Hey why is my award just a middle finger???

Can he defuse,
international conflicts?
No he can't,
he's Spider-man.

swordsbane:

I think you mean "where are we going, and why am I in this handbasket?"

NiceBeaver:

If anything, the US attempts to do more for human rights than any other country in the world. Oh, I suppose you are probably talking about other countries disobeying the rules, and the US not solving their problems for them? Or maybe you should just STFU and look in the direction of Libya, Cuba, Sudan, Algeria, and Vietnam before saying the US doesn't follow human rights policies.

As for invading other countries without cause, many would disagree with that notion. There was cause: to remove a dictator who wanted to kill Americans, and to install a democracy into an unstable region. It may not have been perfect or easy, but there was a cause.

Last but not least, why should the US pay dues to a farking organization that has Liechtenstein with essentially the same voting power? Why should the US pay when the smaller, newly independent nations want to change the ways of the UN that don't suit American interest? Why should the US pay when Third World country voting blocks form together in the interest of that which is opposite of US goals and interests?

The US has problems, but the UN is ricockulous.

/We do abide by our Constitution


Lets disemble piece by piece

the US attempts to do more for human rights than any other country in the world

The US only really intervenes where it has strategic interests... if your statement was true we'd be back in Africa right now. Sure it may be good financial policy, but its not 100% altrustic.
(im talking just the government, not private orgs)


As for invading other countries without cause, many would disagree with that notion. There was cause: to remove a dictator who wanted to kill Americans, and to install a democracy into an unstable region. It may not have been perfect or easy, but there was a cause.

... And those people would be the gullible ones... Okay i shouldnt name call but at this point in time, i would like to think that most reasonable people would realize that those were the "added benifits" at most, for going into Iraq, especially since we picked the one least extremist country in the damn region to topple.

Last but not least, why should the US pay dues to a farking organization that has Liechtenstein with essentially the same voting power? Why should the US pay when the smaller, newly independent nations want to change the ways of the UN that don't suit American interest? Why should the US pay when Third World country voting blocks form together in the interest of that which is opposite of US goals and interests?

For teh same reason the the poor blue collar worker gets the same vote that the billionare gets. We helped setup this org, and we helped organize it. We set ourselves as permament security council members giving us an edge already and you want it only to go with US interests? Whats teh point of even pretending. Scrap it, create a US UN and then tell everyone we are creating a worldwide Enlightened Despotism led by the US. Because honestly, thats what you want when you complain its not always in our best interest. Of course it isnt, we have, what, a 300mil pop, in a world of 6 billion? I thought you wanted democracy?

swordsbane: There was cause: to remove a dictator who wanted to kill Americans, and to install a democracy into an unstable region. It may not have been perfect or easy, but there was a cause.

Last but not least, why should the US pay dues to a farking organization that has Liechtenstein with essentially the same voting power? Why should the US pay when the smaller, newly independent nations want to change the ways of the UN that don't suit American interest? Why should the US pay when Third World country voting blocks form together in the interest of that which is opposite of US goals and interests?

Wow. Where have YOU been the last eight years?

1) We invaded Iraq to get WMDs, and to fight terrorism. Too bad they had nothing to do with terrorism and we never found WMDs. Then suddenly overnight, the war became about removing Hussein and installing a democracy. Great job so far, by the way.

2) Since when is the UN about protecting US interests, and why should we expect it to be? We are one of over 120 countries. Those other countries get upset with us when we mess with them, just like we do when they mess with us. The UN was formed so that there would be some other way to resolve these issues besides fighting, and that's pretty much all there is to it.

3) You are absolutely correct about getting out of the UN if we don't agree with what they're doing, but we won't. Why not? Because whatever international credibility we have will go right down the drain. In the meantime while we are still members of the UN, we need to sit down, shut up and start realizing that there are other countries out there and their interests don't lay with XBoxes and Hummers so much as finding the next meal and not getting shot.

Here's a thought: Let's try to actually BE the great nation we tell everyone we already are. Then maybe they might start listening to us.

But that's just my own humble opinion. Being honorable doesn't seem to be fashionable these days, so what do I know?

1) There have been WMDs found in Iraq since the war began. Google the shiat. It's just that everyone on the left wanted there to be some astronomical amount in a pile the size of Alaska. Oh, and let's not forget the heel-dragging of the UN resolutions and weapons inspectors that gave Hussein plenty of time to move "cargo" to places like Syria.

2) Agreed on the reasoning for the UN's implemention...however, there is nearly no incentive any more for the US to abide by the UN's nonsense. Originally it consisted of several key players, and policy was meaningful and complimentary to most, if not all. Now there are far too many countries in the UN with goals and beliefs completely contradictory to ours, yet they remain equal voting "partners" without the financial obligations of the US. There is something very wrong there.

3) Agreed. We have different opinions than many other countries in the UN. Which is why I think the allegiance from the US to the UN needs to hurry up and jump the shark already.

headslap: Whoops! My bad then, apologies Beaver!

No problems!

As I said before, the elastic clause is part of the Constitution, and if we follow it, then we are following the Constitution.

/Staypuft fails.