There is a very high likelihood that will be the case.

Iowa dem. caucus, February 10, 1992 - Tom Harkin (76%), "Uncommitted" (12%), Paul Tsongas (4%), Bill Clinton (3%), Bob Kerrey (2%), and Jerry Brown (2%)

nekom: Iowa dem. caucus, February 10, 1992 - Tom Harkin (76%), "Uncommitted" (12%), Paul Tsongas (4%), Bill Clinton (3%), Bob Kerrey (2%), and Jerry Brown (2%)

I don't get your point here. Is it somehow surprising that a very popular senator polled well in his home state?

And Grand Warlock continues :"and on the entertainment side, Britney Spears will commit suicide."

How funny that I have CNN on as I read this link and hear: "Britney Spears has been rushed to the hospital..." CNN (new window)

/I now believe...although I'm not voting for Clinton.

/obscure?

uoutf: I don't get your point here. Is it somehow surprising that a very popular senator polled well in his home state?

I think the point is "the eventual winner choked in Iowa," so the democratic caucus means bopkis, perhaps.

Nice headline, subby, me rikey rikey. See, it is completely natural that the nation's eyes are fixed on Iowa caucusians, but Wyoming? C'mon! Why would anyone pay any attention to a bunch of homongenous, out-of-touch rural folk when deciding the future president of the US?

factoryconnection: I think the point is "the eventual winner choked in Iowa," so the democratic caucus means bopkis, perhaps.


I understand the point, but is the best evidence the fact that a popular senator won his home state?

What about 96, 2000, 2004?

factoryconnection: I think the point is "the eventual winner choked in Iowa," so the democratic caucus means bopkis, perhaps.

The eventual winner didn't "choke" in Iowa in '92. Harkin's presence effectively made that primary meaningless.

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factoryconnection: I think the point is "the eventual winner choked in Iowa," so the democratic caucus means bopkis, perhaps.

Exactly. The caucus is comprised of people from a single rural state who have a lot of time on their hands, not necessarily a cross-section of America. Not that it's entirely meaningless, I just don't make much of it.

Locke3k

You're on Fark and you think an icon from WoW might be obscure?

Iowa is a big deal for candidates that have a tight budget that need early momentum to help with fundraising. It hurts Hillary only in the sense that Obama seems more like the "real deal" now and not just a pipe dream. She still has the organization to recover.

On the other side Mitt Romney was the biggest loser last night but will live to fight another day because he has the best financed organization. It hurts him but doesn't kill him.

Iowa will be nothing but an after thought after NH.

uoutf: nekom: Iowa dem. caucus, February 10, 1992 - Tom Harkin (76%), "Uncommitted" (12%), Paul Tsongas (4%), Bill Clinton (3%), Bob Kerrey (2%), and Jerry Brown (2%)

I don't get your point here. Is it somehow surprising that a very popular senator polled well in his home state?

Kerry won in 2004

FTFA: predicted for this year that Hillary Clinton will win the U.S. presidential elections and on the entertainment side, Britney Spears will commit suicide.

I'd put my money on this.

Shouldn't he be out protecting Mexicans from the chupacabra?

nekom: There is a very high likelihood that will be the case.

Whatever man.

Democrats

* January 3, 2008 - Barack Obama (38%), John Edwards (30%), Hillary Clinton (29%), Bill Richardson (2%), Joe Biden (1%), Chris Dodd 0%, Mike Gravel 0%, and Dennis Kucinich 0%[9]

* January 19, 2004 - John Kerry (38%), John Edwards (32%), Howard Dean (18%), Dick Gephardt (11%), and Dennis Kucinich (1%)

* January 24, 2000 - Al Gore (63%) and Bill Bradley (37%)

* February 12, 1996 - Bill Clinton (unopposed)

* February 10, 1992 - Tom Harkin (76%), "Uncommitted" (12%), Paul Tsongas (4%), Bill Clinton (3%), Bob Kerrey (2%), and Jerry Brown (2%)

* February 8, 1988 - Dick Gephardt (31%), Paul Simon (27%), Michael Dukakis (22%), and Bruce Babbitt (6%)

* February 20, 1984 - Walter Mondale (49%), Gary Hart (17%), George McGovern (10%), Alan Cranston (7%), John Glenn (4%), Reubin Askew (3%), and Jesse Jackson (2%)

* January 21, 1980 - Jimmy Carter (59%) and Ted Kennedy (31%)

* January 19, 1976 - "Uncommitted" (37%), Jimmy Carter (28%) Birch Bayh (13%), Fred R. Harris (10%), Morris Udall (6%), Sargent Shriver (3%), and Henry M. Jackson (1%)

* January 24, 1972 - "Uncommitted" (36%), Edmund Muskie (36%), George McGovern (23%), Hubert Humphrey (2%), Eugene McCarthy (1%), Shirley Chisholm (1%), and Henry M. Jackson (1%)[10]

Republicans


* 2008- Mike Huckabee (34%), Mitt Romney (25%), Fred Thompson (13%), John McCain (13%), Ron Paul (10%), Rudy Giuliani (4%), and Duncan Hunter (1%) *95% of precincts reporting [1]

* 2004- George W. Bush (unopposed)

* 2000- George W. Bush (41%), Steve Forbes (30%), Alan Keyes (14%), Gary Bauer (9%), John McCain (5%), and Orrin Hatch (1%)

* 1996- Bob Dole (26%), Pat Buchanan (23%), Lamar Alexander (18%), Steve Forbes (10%), Phil Gramm (9%), Alan Keyes (7%), Richard Lugar (4%), and Morry Taylor (1%)

* 1992- George H. W. Bush (unopposed)

* 1988- Bob Dole (37%), Pat Robertson (25%), George H. W. Bush (19%), Jack Kemp (11%), and Pete DuPont (7%)

* 1984- Ronald Reagan (unopposed)

* 1980- George H. W. Bush (32%), Ronald Reagan (30%), Howard Baker (15%), John Connally (9%), Phil Crane (7%), John B. Anderson (4%), and Bob Dole (2%)

* 1976- Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan

and on the entertainment side, Britney Spears will commit suicide

Looks like a fifty-fifty deal here.

So the record for Iowa winners getting the nomination is 6 and 2 for republicans (and 3 of those ran unopposed), and 5 and 4 for democrats (1 running unopposed), that's hardly something I'd bet on.

RussianPooper: uoutf: nekom: Iowa dem. caucus, February 10, 1992 - Tom Harkin (76%), "Uncommitted" (12%), Paul Tsongas (4%), Bill Clinton (3%), Bob Kerrey (2%), and Jerry Brown (2%)

I don't get your point here. Is it somehow surprising that a very popular senator polled well in his home state?

Kerry won in 2004

Are you confusing your Kerrey with your Kerry?

PC LOAD LETTER: RussianPooper: uoutf: nekom: Iowa dem. caucus, February 10, 1992 - Tom Harkin (76%), "Uncommitted" (12%), Paul Tsongas (4%), Bill Clinton (3%), Bob Kerrey (2%), and Jerry Brown (2%)

I don't get your point here. Is it somehow surprising that a very popular senator polled well in his home state?

Kerry won in 2004

Are you confusing your Kerrey with your Kerry?

Nevermind, your statement was vague, it could be read 2 ways.

PC LOAD LETTER,

Nothing to see here, Kerrey on...

If voters are too stupid not to let the Iowa caucau dctate their vote, shame on them.

As for the dems fear of a diverse voter base, I guess the whities in IA did vote for a darkie.

I'm waiting for the official endorsement from this guy before I vote.