Also, former Navy SEAL. Hollywood movie star. Dedicated family man with well brought up and successful children. (a couple of wild parties notwithstanding.)


Jessie Ventura has forgotten more about intelligence than Submitter will even know.

ON PRESIDENT BUSH

His first inclination that Bush "was not a man of his word" came at national governor's meeting in 2001. "He stated at the time that he was a strong believer in giving more power to the states, which I applaud ...

"Yet just about every move he's made since that day has taken power away from the states. Cases in point: Twelve states have now passed laws to allow the medical use of marijuana. The federal government under Bush says no way, he won't let the states do this ...

"It's a shame that Bush has turned into what he has."

"... In his first six-plus years, he virtually bankrupted the country, and now we're nine trillion bucks in hock. That may not be an impeachable offense, but it sure seems like a committable one."

SNIFF, I miss him.

Ventura is just a typical "blame bush for everything" bonehead.
He only served one term because he knew he had no chance at a second after he managed to shoot himself in the foot left and right.
Didnt they have to close down the governors house when he was in office, due to a shutdown, because his own financial irresponsibility practically bankrupted the state?
The new guy in office, Pawlenty has turned things around big time I hear, he could be a presidential candidate in '12 at this rate...
Ventura could be a worthless political-has-been-loser showman who is still riding the coattails of an idiotic electorate who wanted to vote for the no-necked celebrity as a joke, oh, wait....he is.

I've seen a few interviews with Ventura, and it's a pity there aren't more people like him, who just so happen to not have time to bleed.

He is absolutely right though, the 2 party system is corrupt and needs to be changed.

Oh, and like Arnold, we in Cali voted him in as a joke, and after a short time, he actually LISTENED to the people, and is very popular. (ex. suing the federal government for not allowing us to have better cars)

hillary4real

Let me guess.......Submitter?

Gosh, I wish I had nothing better to do with my life than immerse myself in politics. Why, I could even make it my very identity! How incredibly clever.

Alucard1191

Jesse was never that popular, he engaged in too much transparent grandstanding. Not that he was a total disaster or anything, but he only looks like a paragon of enlightenment if you put him side-by-side with Bush.

Jesse was never that popular, he engaged in too much transparent grandstanding. Not that he was a total disaster or anything, but he only looks like a paragon of enlightenment if you put him side-by-side with Bush.

You're going easy on our politicians, El_Dan.

* Senator David Durenberger denounced by Senate for unethical financial transactions (1990)
* Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) scandal implicates former Defense Secretary and Washington insider Clark Clifford (1991)
* House banking scandal (1992)
* Mary Rose Oakar (1992) allegations of "ghost employees" on payroll
* President George H.W. Bush's pardon of 6 Iran-Contra affair figures on December 24, 1992 after he had failed to win a second term, days before the perjury trial of Casper Weinberger was scheduled to begin.
* Travelgate (1993)
* Zoe Baird's nomination as Attorney General and Kimba Wood's subsequent near-nomination were derailed by past employment of illegal aliens as nannies. (1993)
* Dan Rostenkowski and other Democratic Members of Congress in the Congressional Post Office Scandal (1991 - 1995)
* The evident suicide (1993) of White House lawyer Vince Foster, together with accusations that documents from Foster's office relating to an investigation had disappeared mysteriously, fueled scandalous speculations, including the widely publicized suggestion (dismissed by investigators) that Foster's death had not been suicide.
* White House Coffees and Lincoln Bedroom sales -- political donations linked to access to President Clinton, including the apparent sale of "coffees" with him, and what amounted to the renting out of the Lincoln Bedroom.
* Commerce Secretary Ron Brown investigated (1995)
* The 1996 United States campaign finance controversy, also known as Chinagate, refers to alleged efforts by the People's Republic of China (PRC) to influence domestic United States politics prior to and during the Clinton Administration as well as the fundraising practices of the administration itself.
* Americorps head Eli Segal investigated (1996)
* Wes Cooley (1996)
* Filegate -- Misuse of FBI resources by White House Security Chief under President Bill Clinton, allegedly to compile an enemies list (1996); investigation found insufficient evidence of criminal wrongdoing
* Walter R. Tucker III of California resigned before bribery conviction (1996)
* Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich financial improprieties leading to House reprimand and assessment of $300,000 sanction (1997)
* Secretary of Agriculture Michael Espy forced to resign from office despite ultimate acquittal on criminal corruption charges (1998)
* Labor Secretary Alexis Herman investigated (1998) in connection with alleged illegal fundraising and other financial improprieties, ultimately cleared (2001)
* Bruce Babbitt, Interior Secretary, independent probe (1998-2000) of alleged lying to Congress concerning influence of money in 1995 American Indian tribe casino decision finds no criminally prosecutable perjury by Babbitt
* Vice-President Al Gore (1998) allegations of improper fundraising and "no controlling legal authority" defense
* Whitewater scandal (1994-2000)No criminal charges were brought against the Clintons as there was insufficient evidence that either of them had engaged in criminal wrongdoing
* Teamstergate Ron Carey's and Bill Clinton's 1996 campaigns for the Presidency of the union and the United States, respectively, swapped Teamsters' Union general treasury funds into Clinton's campaign, for Clinton Campaign funds into Ron Carey's campaign warchest. The Teamsters' political director was jailed. No Clinton officials were charged. Carey's re-election was invalidated; James Hoffa, Jr. was elected when Teamsters election was rerun.
* Henry Cisneros payments controversy - Henry Cisneros resigns as Housing Secretary and, after lengthy probe that began in 1995, pleads guilty (1999) to lying to the FBI about money he paid former mistress Linda Medlar a.k.a. Linda Jones; later pardoned by President Clinton in 2001 (Possibly reclassify or cross-reference to Sex scandal)
* Pardongate (1999 - 2001) -- Bill Clinton appeared to write out pardons, during his lame duck tenure, in response to massive contributions linked to the pardoned. This included a scandal which has become traditional for departing presidents; the sudden flurry of pardons during the final month in office, which would probably not have been deemed tolerable at any other time.

[edit] 2000 -

* Linda Chavez, nomination as Secretary of Labor derailed by past employment of illegal alien (2001)
* Enron collapse (2002) leading to investigation of Kenneth Lay, a top political ally and financial donor to the election campaign of President George W. Bush; Lay, who had been named as a leading candidate for Secretary of the Treasury, eventually indicted (2004). Attempts to link individual politicians with the Enron malfeasance have not been particularly successful, perhaps partly due to the fact that so many politicians of both major parties received campaign contributions (including 158 Republicans and 100 Democrats in Congress (as of 2001) [2]).
* Jim Traficant (D-OH) financial corruption conviction and expulsion from House (2002)
* Robert Torricelli (D-NJ) bribery scandal (2002)
* Trent Lott (R-MS) resigned as Senate majority leader amid racial controversy
* Bill Frist (R-TN), becomes Senate majority leader and is alleged to have been deeply involved in campaign finance improprieties. The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission is investigating insider-trading issues in connection with Frist's July 2005 sale of Hospital Corporation of America shares immediately before the stock's value fell precipitously.
* Yellowcake forgery. Evidence alleged to be forged was presented in the case for 2003 invasion of Iraq (2003)
* Plame affair (2004), leading to the CIA leak grand jury investigation, eventually implicating Vice Presidential Chief of Staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, who was indicted October 28, 2005 on five counts of obstruction of justice, perjury, and making false statements; convicted of four counts on March 6, 2007, sentenced to 30 months in federal prison, $250,000 fine, and 2 years supervised release on June 5, 2007; after bail refused pending appeal of the verdict, 30-month prison sentence commuted by President George W. Bush on July 2, 2007. (Also known as: CIA leak scandal (2003) and Plamegate.)
* Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse scandal (2004-2005)
* Tom DeLay (R-TX), reprimanded twice by House Ethics Committee and aides indicted (2004-2005); eventually DeLay himself was indicted (October 2005); DeLay resigned from the House 9 June, 2006
* Bernard Kerik, nomination as Secretary of Homeland Security derailed by past employment of illegal alien as nanny, and amid allegations of various other ethical improprieties (2004)
* Former Clinton administration National Security Advisor Sandy Berger pleads guilty (2005) to unlawfully removing classified documents from the National Archives in October 2003
* Bush administration payment of columnists including Armstrong Williams, Maggie Gallagher and Michael McManus (2004-2005)
* Downing Street Memo minutes of UK government secret meeting (dated 23 July 2002, leaked 2005) include summary of MI6 Director Sir Richard Dearlove's report that "Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and the facts were being fixed around the policy."
* George Allen Ex-Senator from Virginia, saying "macaca" to a Webb campaign volunteer. Also failed to produce stock options, had a long affinity with the Confederate flag, and for the attack and the Omni Hotel.
* Duke Cunningham (R-CA) resigned from the House of Representatives and pleaded guilty on November 28, 2005 to charges of conspiracy to commit bribery, mail fraud and wire fraud, and tax evasion for underreporting his income in 2004. Prosecutors said Cunningham admitted to receiving at least $2.4 million in bribes.

...and that's just the ones that Wikipedia covers.

Ventura vetoed a bill to promote recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools, saying:

"I believe patriotism comes from the heart. Patriotism is voluntary. It is a feeling of loyalty and allegiance that is the result of knowledge and belief. A patriot shows their patriotism through their actions, by their choice [such as voting, attending community meetings and speaking out when needed]. No law will make a citizen a patriot"

Proud to say I voted for the bod in Minnesota...might not make a president but surely a good patriotic American



/he decided to not stay in the Governor's Mansion because it needed remodeling and lacked security... the whine about costs to reopen it are BS and are a result of costs to update security and remodel...the very things Ventura had presented

Nope, I'm not submitter.
Nice try though.
There are alot of reasons that he is the laughing stock of midwestern politics.
For instance:
He was openly against the pledge of allegiance.
He claimed that anyone who was religious was "stupid" and used religion as a "crutch for weak-minded people".
He advocated prostitution (except for his own children of course) and admitted to using prostitutes in Nevada & the Philippines regularly, (he claimed that he was paid by a prostitute for having sex with him, yeah, riiight) what a stand up guy.
He referred to his constituents as "drunken Irishmen" on national tv, banned all reporters from reporting on him, referring to them as "jackals".
Wow, I forgot what a retard this guy is.
It makes you wonder what color crayon his new book is written in.

Any MN'ers care to chime in about how they thought he was as a governor?

That aside...Ventura is likely smarter and has more integrity than at least half of the bufoons we have in office right now. And he could probably beat up all of them.

FTA:
at that point, I was officially alone ...

hillary4real: There are alot of reasons that he is the laughing stock of midwestern politics.

See, with that kind of a record, I'd say he's my dream politician.

He claimed that anyone who was religious was "stupid" and used religion as a "crutch for weak-minded people".

If you think this is going offend Farkers, you're obviously not reading enough threads.

Nope, I'm not submitter.
Nice try though.


Yeah, with a login like yours it was a good guess. Now to your reasoning:

He was openly against the pledge of allegiance.

Satyagraha said it best already:


"I believe patriotism comes from the heart. Patriotism is voluntary. It is a feeling of loyalty and allegiance that is the result of knowledge and belief. A patriot shows their patriotism through their actions, by their choice [such as voting, attending community meetings and speaking out when needed]. No law will make a citizen a patriot"

Proud to say I voted for the bod in Minnesota...might not make a president but surely a good patriotic American.

DAMN good reasoning on Venturas part, IMNSHO.


He claimed that anyone who was religious was "stupid" and used religion as a "crutch for weak-minded people".

I agree.......to a degree. Taken out of context, and without explanation though. He wasn't a much of a politician, but damn, did he speak his mind.

He advocated prostitution (except for his own children of course) and admitted to using prostitutes in Nevada & the Philippines regularly, (he claimed that he was paid by a prostitute for having sex with him, yeah, riiight) what a stand up guy.


Crazy, I nailed a few LBFM's while in Subic, too, and I am one of the most honorable men you will ever meet.

He referred to his constituents as "drunken Irishmen" on national tv, banned all reporters from reporting on him, referring to them as "jackals".


Drunken Irishmen is funny. My last name is O'Brien. Man up, Nancy. Reporters ARE jackels.

Wow, I forgot what a retard this guy is.
It makes you wonder what color crayon his new book is written in.

Lets see a list of your life accomplishments. A short list of his shows a real MAN, not a politician.


I'll take a Man over a politician all day long. With your name and profile, you show the exact opposite. So sad that you are common.

ninjirate: Any MN'ers care to chime in about how they thought he was as a governor?

That aside...Ventura is likely smarter and has more integrity than at least half of the bufoons we have in office right now. And he could probably beat up all of them.

I guess I will since I voted for him.

He was a good guy and a good governor. His major flaw (aside from getting pissed at all reporters and calling them "Jackals") was that he was an Independent. This really pissed of the Rs and the Ds who openly mocked and/or ignored him during the first debates.

Ultimately the Rs and Ds decided they would block as much as they could in the Legislature so they could blame it all on him not being able to "work with others". He had a lot of good ideas and made some decent changes while he could (i.e. no more auto inspections).

I think the downfall of his term is due to the saying, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." The two-party system needed to remind us all that there is no room for new, non-party line thinkers in office.

More power to you, Jesse. But dude, that beard was a bad idea.

Ed Finnerty: The two-party system needed to remind us all that there is no room for new, non-party line thinkers in office.

And that is a very sad truth...

With him and Arnold both becoming governors, it gives a whole new meaning to "The Running Man", well, and "Predator" too for that matter.

/Jesse rulz
//Always has, always will

FarkinHostile: I'll take a Man over a politician all day long. With your name and profile, you show the exact opposite. So sad that you are common.


Agreed

hillary4real:
He referred to his constituents as "drunken Irishmen" on national tv,
No, he referred to those who designed the streets of downtown St Paul as drunken Irishmen. If you had driven in dt SP you'd know what he's talking about (West 7th Str is also known as Fort Road or Old 6th Str for instance). It's not too difficult but it is a mess.

banned all reporters from reporting on him, referring to them as "jackals". How could ANYONE ban reporters from reporting on him.


Wow, I forgot what a retard this guy is. Yeah, if you don't have your facts right, I could see what you mean. You sir, are an idiot.

stpauler: hillary4real:
He referred to his constituents as "drunken Irishmen" on national tv,
No, he referred to those who designed the streets of downtown St Paul as drunken Irishmen. If you had driven in dt SP you'd know what he's talking about (West 7th Str is also known as Fort Road or Old 6th Str for instance). It's not too difficult but it is a mess.

Three words: Ayd Mill Road.