Daft Punk needs to release something new..

It's a great concept! Hope it happens.

/Too bad all 10 artists that were mentioned suck.
//Hoping for some decent bands to follow suit.

Am I horribly behind because I haven't heard of half of those acts?

The Radiohead model can only be profitable under the present system where music listeners, who are used to file sharing and hate record companies/the RIAA, feel they are supporting some kind of revolution against the present system...

...but if all the artists offered their material on an honor system, then the same downloading/aquire it for free mentality would eventually dominate and it wouldn't be profitable for the artists at all.

So, it's good for bands like NIN now...but not so good 5 years from now.

slyde: It's a great concept! Hope it happens.

/Too bad all 10 artists that were mentioned suck.
//Hoping for some decent bands to follow suit.

Is someone a little upset that "My Chemical Romance" isn't offering music online?

/I keed

zvoidx: The Radiohead model can only be profitable under the present system where music listeners, who are used to file sharing and hate record companies/the RIAA, feel they are supporting some kind of revolution against the present system...

...but if all the artists offered their material on an honor system, then the same downloading/aquire it for free mentality would eventually dominate and it wouldn't be profitable for the artists at all.

So, it's good for bands like NIN now...but not so good 5 years from now.

Well, it just shows me that the model of getting rich off sales of recordings is probably dead. You'll just end up releasing new singles and/or albums as promotional items to try to sell other merchandise or concert tix.

jake_lex: Well, it just shows me that the model of getting rich off sales of recordings is probably dead. You'll just end up releasing new singles and/or albums as promotional items to try to sell other merchandise or concert tix.

Yeh, good point...

...but in the meantime, I think these first bands doing this are going to get more rich off of the downloading model that they would have staying with their label.

It's just going to eventually dry up...

PizzaJedi81: Am I horribly behind because I haven't heard of half of those acts?

As long as you've heard of Sufjan Stevens, you'll be fine

ditching a major record label does not equal releasing only online. my husband co-runs 3 independent labels with no major label backing and they release hard copy cd-r, pressed cd, and will be branching into vinyl in '08, as well as pay to download and free mp3 releases.

That was like a list of my favorite bands.

Again, the Radiohead thing was a PUBLICITY STUNT. A brilliant one. The whole world knew Radiohead had a new cd coming out and all it cost them was some crappy low bit downloads.

How retarded to you have to be to actually believe that people are going to start giving new music away for whatever you want to pay?

Is that what you do? Do you go up to your boss on pay day and say "pay me what you want, don't pay me anything, whatever"? Nah.

slyde: It's a great concept! Hope it happens.

/Too bad all 10 artists that were mentioned suck.
//Hoping for some decent bands to follow suit.

Newsflash: Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it doesn't have some merit. Your tastes are not the standard which all things are held up to.

Forgot to add

/Saw Daft Punk live in July.
//It was an incredible show.

priestrape: PizzaJedi81: Am I horribly behind because I haven't heard of half of those acts?

As long as you've heard of Sufjan Stevens, you'll be fine

Well, then color me not fine. :-) Some recommendations?

i care about this when there are 10 bands that are actually good doing this

Kenthehillwilliam

You need to re-read the list

1 - Prince - Tell me how Prince is not good.

2 - NIN - Were good, may be good in the future.

3 - ... And You Will Know Us by the Trail of Dead - Need I say more???

4 - Chuck D/Public Enemy - C'mon now, everybody's down with the PE



Daft Punk sucks balls

Endlife.exe: slyde: It's a great concept! Hope it happens.

/Too bad all 10 artists that were mentioned suck.
//Hoping for some decent bands to follow suit.

Newsflash: Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it doesn't have some merit. Your tastes are not the standard which all things are held up to.

Thanks for the news flash Walter Cronkite.

It was my opinion, maybe I should have mentioned that for the slower members.

bluesxgirl: my husband co-runs 3 independent labels

I assume that you're getting a kick, etc.?

slyde:

Thanks for the news flash Walter Cronkite.

It was my opinion, maybe I should have mentioned that for the slower members.

If it doesn't appeal to you, that's fine. No one's gonna make you like it. The point I was trying to make is that your opinion doesn't determine quality.

There is a difference between "I don't like it" and "It's no good".

ChubbyTiger: bluesxgirl: my husband co-runs 3 independent labels

I assume that you're getting a kick, etc.?

never one for cliches, myself. it did not even crossed my mind, and i've been a farker for many a year.

i just honestly wanted to point out that everyone assumes that ditching a major label means you will release only online or something. it doesn't. and when you release something yourself or with a small indie label, you get to retain all rights. if your music is good enough to be in a commercial or a video game, you will get all the cash, not the label brokering the deal who now has partial or full rights to your music.

i think major labels will be dying out soon, and i won't be sad when it happens.

i guess david byrne wrote a really interesting piece on this concept, i have yet to read it though.

Endlife.exe: slyde:

Thanks for the news flash Walter Cronkite.

It was my opinion, maybe I should have mentioned that for the slower members.

If it doesn't appeal to you, that's fine. No one's gonna make you like it. The point I was trying to make is that your opinion doesn't determine quality.

There is a difference between "I don't like it" and "It's no good".



And now for my last face-palm of the calendar year 2007.

Thank You.

There is a difference between "I don't like it" and "It's no good".

Some art can safely be called 'no good'.

Modern R&B covers of classic Christmas songs comes to mind. Not sure why that popped into my head just now...

Oh, and Reggaeton. This is a whole sub-genre of music that is 'no good'.

Trail of Dead: There is a difference between "I don't like it" and "It's no good".

Some art can safely be called 'no good'.

Modern R&B covers of classic Christmas songs comes to mind. Not sure why that popped into my head just now...

Oh, and Reggaeton. This is a whole sub-genre of music that is 'no good'.

I'm in total agreement that there are things that are genuinely 'no good'. I'm just saying that it's possible to not like something while at the same time accepting or appreciating that it has some merit.

slyde:

And now for my last face-palm of the calendar year 2007.

Thank You.

The day is still young. Don't write off that award too soon. :B

Missed the ...And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Our Dead and Dethklok tour :(

Anybody know if it was worth it? It would've been a 500 mile trip to see it for me, but I've done it before and would do it again!

PizzaJedi81: priestrape: PizzaJedi81: Am I horribly behind because I haven't heard of half of those acts?

As long as you've heard of Sufjan Stevens, you'll be fine

Well, then color me not fine. :-) Some recommendations?

Sufjan Stevens - John Wayne Gacy Jr

Best song about a serial killer evar.

All albums should be available online (at high quality) for $5. That is all.

barneyfifesbullet: Again, the Radiohead thing was a PUBLICITY STUNT. A brilliant one. The whole world knew Radiohead had a new cd coming out and all it cost them was some crappy low bit downloads.

How retarded to you have to be to actually believe that people are going to start giving new music away for whatever you want to pay?

Is that what you do? Do you go up to your boss on pay day and say "pay me what you want, don't pay me anything, whatever"? Nah.

Your assumption is that Radiohead's business is making records. Radiohead, it seems, has gotten past that rather quaint notion.

Albums aren't selling because the market doesn't see any value in buying them. Piracy is only one of the forces that have created that perception. Other forces include the cheapening of the CD package itself (fully the fault of the record companies) and the higher perceived value the market bestows on other entertainment products, like DVDs and video games. A kid with $20 in their pocket just doesn't see the value in buying CDs when there's so much more value in buying something else.

So in a market where the majority don't want to pay for a pure music product, Radiohead managed to turn what is normally a loss leader (for them) into pure profit.

Necrosis: PizzaJedi81: priestrape: PizzaJedi81: Am I horribly behind because I haven't heard of half of those acts?

As long as you've heard of Sufjan Stevens, you'll be fine

Well, then color me not fine. :-) Some recommendations?

Sufjan Stevens - John Wayne Gacy Jr

Best song about a serial killer evar.

All albums should be available online (at high quality) for $5. That is all.

Thanks, I'll check it out when I get home.

/at work on New Year's Eve
//in a dry town
///stupid Texas

Top 10 artists most likely to ditch their record labelsyou'd like to see beaten to death with a hammer on live TV. Now THAT's an article I can read.

hubcity: Your assumption is that Radiohead's business is making records. Radiohead, it seems, has gotten past that rather quaint notion.

I notice that they keep releasing them.

The recording industry dying will be the greatest thing that ever happened to music.

boringmike: Daft Punk needs to release something new..



They've been kinda busy this past year blowing peoples minds...

barneyfifesbullet: Again, the Radiohead thing was a PUBLICITY STUNT. A brilliant one. The whole world knew Radiohead had a new cd coming out and all it cost them was some crappy low bit downloads.

How retarded to you have to be to actually believe that people are going to start giving new music away for whatever you want to pay?

Is that what you do? Do you go up to your boss on pay day and say "pay me what you want, don't pay me anything, whatever"? Nah.

The cost of recording and producing yourself and then distributing it online is breaking apart the old traditional method. A band like Radiohead can hire one audio person to run the laptop and microphones and to do the mix and another person to make the final product available online. They can name the price to $1 an album and still come out way ahead. Granted this doesn't work for bands less popular than Radiohead, but for the established acts tired of their major label contract, this will change many things.

Weirdal has been with the same record label since 1982!! Ha-ha. Beat that.

Ok ok, so he was with Scotti-Bros from 1982 to 1999 when it was bought out by Volcano who has sponsored him since then.

/Too Nerdy?

Am I the only one who's confused that Daft Punk is still around? I remember that "Around the World" single when it came out... but everything since has sounded like crappy anime music, yet people are apparently buying that shiat. WTF?


list seems kind of pointless as it has basically named all the performers notably pissed with their labels or recently departed under bad terms. Though, I'm not quite sure why they named Depeche Mode. Though, I guess if they go all digital, it'll save their fans from having to track down obscure import singles. (Is there such a thing as a casual Depeche mode fan?)

and reading these posts i noticed some of you arent in touch with music, most of these poeple here are HUGE or were



to note, i hate daft punk but they are busier than ever and ive heartd more from them this year than ever before

I welcome the death of the Industry, let it be quick, and let those at the top fall the hardest.

Ghostland Observatory anyone?

Yeah? Well...MY favourite artists don't even record things on CD. So there.

/8 track FTW

All these musicians want to change the world, starting in their own back yard would be a good beginning.

Considering most artists make less that $1 per CD sold, selling at $5 on the web for pure profit is a brilliant move. Sure, they'll lose those impulse buyers but hell, they'll still make more money if they can keep just 25% of their audience.

I just came here to say Pearl Jam rocks.

/I also dig Sufjan Stevens
//Don't really care about the rest of the list\
///I also approve of the Radiohead-method of album selling

This model WILL work for independent bands as well as big name acts. Radiohead turned what would be an inevitable leak into a money-spinner. Independent bands LOSE money hand over fist as they try to get established - paying for petrol, CDs, distribution, promotion, etc out of their own pockets. The internet levels that playing field. My band plan on using the internet from now on, after we spent thousands on getting CDs pressed we realised it's a no-brainer.

barneyfifesbullet: Is that what you do? Do you go up to your boss on pay day and say "pay me what you want, don't pay me anything, whatever"? Nah.

Yes, it's exactly like that. To make the scenario complete, life works as if the vast majority of money you would personally make in said business situation would come from licensed merchandise based on your work and ticket sales for people who wish to watch you work.

The fact that costs in production have dropped over the years (if not, the money made by record companies has been wasted, as they decided not to invest in innovation), but CD prices have essentially not, suggests people may not buy as many albums. Sure, a burned CD doesn't cost the same as a pressed CD, but the physical media itself is less expensive, so costs should have gone down for CD production to some extent. The internet and the general crappiness of new music are two other major factors.

You know, if Pink Floyd came back together to produce one album, and it could only be purchased on CD, and could somehow never be downloaded into another format, I'd buy that CD for $20. Otherwise, no. I've purchased 2 CDs in the last few years, and it certainly isn't because I'm downloading new music.