...because Chris Dodd has stood toe-to-toe with the Ruskies and backed them off good, darn tootin'.

Wouldn't the correct reply be, "And holding a hearing six months afterwards to get third-party testimony about history ain't much to brag about either, Senator."

I'm still voting Dodd. Hillary's about as fake as the rest of them. Obama's practically a manufactured opposition candidate for Hillary. Edwards is too much the "you don't like the other two, so settle for me" candidate. And all three of them are tied up in their own press - I don't see that from Dodd.

"I was the guy doing his job,. Who the fark are you!"

Robo73: "I was the guy doing his job,. Who the fark are you!"

Any "Departed" quote gets the Folderol Seal of Approval.

No one has any farking idea how important the job of POTUS is until they get their first real briefing.

I have a lot of respect for Dodd, but given he's been the only one standing in the way of retroactive immunity for the telecoms, I'd just assume keep him in hos current job.

/unlawful who and what now?

While this likely will not win Iowa for Dodd, it might pull some more voters away from Hillary who were sticking with her for the "experience" lie.

wow, Senator Candidate D criticizing Senator Candidate A, while Senator Candidates B and C sit on the sidelines wishing they'd done the criticizing...

say what you will about the republicans, at least they have some frontrunners with Executive experience

/none i'd vote for, but whatever...

Recall all Repuglikkkans: Hillary does, and that experience is why she should be elected.

In case you don't know a lot of what gets said at presidential briefings is classified and the first lady does not recieve the security clearances to hear this info. So the stuff that will really keep a president up at night, is the stuff she'd never hear as first lady. An economic briefing? Big whoop, lots of people deal with the same info the president gets. Defense and national security? Hillary hasn't exactly dealt with it on an executive level.

OK, I this is going to sound bad but...

Seriously, how can anyone legitimately consider voting for a woman for president? Hillary is known to be emotional and short tempered, thats NOT what we need for dealing with foreign powers or critical situations.

Honestly, think of every woman in your office. Think of all your ex girlfriends/wives. Does "rational & level headed" come to mind or does something else?

I know it is sexist to admit it, but come on. Even the smartest and most grounded women I know still let their emotions guide them at least once in a while. It's one thing to be a senator where having a bad day isn't going to do too much harm, but we can't afford to have a president have a "bad day" while Pakistan is plunging itself into civil war.

did Hildebeast get her vaunted "experience" through osmosis or was she actually running things back in the 90's while that Junior Samples look-alike of a husband was busy molesting interns and shoveling cheeseburgers down his maw?

Reality is, there's only one concrete reason anyone would or will vote for Hillary. It has nothing to do with her issues, her politics, her experience, nothing. It all boils down to one thing:

Hillary means Bill. Bill means Bubba. We want Bubba back. Cuz we like blue dresses.

Hate to say it, but anything else is just window dressing.

underbridge: Honestly, think of every woman in your office. Think of all your ex girlfriends/wives. Does "rational & level headed" come to mind or does something else?



STFU and fix me another scotch

Hillary was NOT just a witness.
You are fooling yourself if you think that she wasnt a major contributor to Bill's policies.
She was not just some intern, she was his wife.
Bill checked with her on everything, just as most husbands do.
If you think that she sat quietly by knitting in the corner, you have never been married.
Hillary was calling far more shots than any of you realize, honestly, this is just another run for the presidency by the same team.
She will obviously get the nomination, that is already sewn up.
I am a liberal myself and I can see that as plain as the nose on my face, but, even I realize that Giuliani is far more competent to run the office in the end, and obviously an agenda to protect America is alot better than Billary's socialist agenda. Alot of us dems are considering switching sides because of that very reason.
Not to mention, if she were in the white house, there would probably just be some scandal involving a "male intern".
She is SO much like bill its not funny. Thats why she will win the nomination, and people will still see she would make as lousy of a president as Bill did.

hillary4real

Shine on, you crazy, deluded diamond. No way Hillary getting the DemNom.

hillary4real: I am a liberal myself and I can see that as plain as the nose on my face, but, even I realize that Giuliani is far more competent to run the office in the end, and obviously an agenda to protect America is alot better than Billary's socialist agenda. Alot of us dems are considering switching sides because of that very reason.

Define liberal.

She was not just some intern, she was his wife.

The intern got all the experience!

Hillary was in the White House for 8 years. So was the pastry chef, and I wouldn't vote for him either.

WhyteRaven74: In case you don't know a lot of what gets said at presidential briefings is classified and the first lady does not recieve the security clearances to hear this info.

Don't bother. When it comes to which Democrat should win the primary, this guy's changed his position more often than a porn movie cast with ADD patients.

gterz66: Hillary was in the White House for 8 years. So was the pastry chef, and I wouldn't vote for him either.

Win. Nar.

Exactly what Great Moment in History is Bill Clinton known for? What earth changing event did Hillary experience alongside Bill?

The only thing Bill Clinton will ever be remembered for is the hummer he got from Monica. And I don't think Hillary saw that.

Oh, and Hillary's abject failure with health care, which she pledged to completely overhaul so that all Americans would have health care. No., not this election. Back when she was First Broad. Really. And she blew it then just like she'll blow it if she gets elected. All talk, no accomplishments.

submitter: Obama and Edwards to their speechwriters - "Where were you on that one, dipshiat?"

meh, Obama had his own comeback to Hillary's claims of experience that worked too. "Experience doesn't mean better performance, just look at Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld's experience."

Although Dodd's comment is good too.

gonepostal: did Hildebeast get her vaunted "experience" through osmosis or was she actually running things back in the 90's while that Junior Samples look-alike of a husband was busy molesting interns and shoveling cheeseburgers down his maw?

I think you have Clinton mixed up with Reagan.

Nancy, 08!

NewportBarGuy: No one has any farking idea how important the job of POTUS is until they get their first real briefing.

That came up in conversation the other day with some of my friends...One of whom said that all the pontificating flies right out the window at the first NSA briefing....I can imagine that there has been more than one "Holy shiat" said around that table...

Of all the horrible consequences of the show "The West Wing", I think the worst is that the term "POTUS" has come into common use.

Dodd actually supports all the things that are important to me, but I just wish he was more electable.

Hillary's main WH experience comes early in Clinton's first term: Travelgate and Healthcare

After those debacles, she was basically moved back to the more traditional roles of First Lady such as "Goodwill Ambassador to the World"; i.e., "Why don't you take a tour of Africa or Southeast Asia or something."

She doesn't really reappear on the WH scene again until the middle of Clinton's second term when he needed her public support during the Lewinski scandal.

So, yeah, Dodd's 100% right on this one.

I don't know about Edwards, but Obama has been going after her on this for a while:

11/21/2007
At a news conference, the Illinois senator was asked about Hillary Clinton's attack on his qualifications. Making an economic speech in Knoxville, Iowa, earlier that day, the New York senator had touted her own know-how, saying that "there is one job we can't afford on-the-job training for - that's the job of our next president." Her aides confirmed that she was referring to Obama.

Pressed to respond, Obama offered a zinger feathered with amused disdain: "My understanding was that she wasn't Treasury secretary in the Clinton administration, so I don't know exactly what experiences she's claiming."

Everybody laughed, including Obama.

Hillary's greatest experience was in bimbo eruptions. If Osama Bin laden wore a C-cup and came from a trailer park she'd be most qualified to be president. The war on terror would be over in a week.

underbridge: OK, I this is going to sound bad but...

It does.


Seriously, how can anyone legitimately consider voting for a woman for president? Hillary is known to be emotional and short tempered, that's NOT what we need for dealing with foreign powers or critical situations.

Honestly, think of every woman in your office. Think of all your ex girlfriends/wives. Does "rational & level headed" come to mind or does something else?

Yes, I see your point.



MFL: Hillary's greatest experience was in bimbo eruptions. If Osama Bin laden wore a C-cup and came from a trailer park she'd be most qualified to be president. The war on terror would be over in a week.

And we can see how your candidate straightened this mess out in no time flat, as long as we think of time in geological terms.


/Dodd/Feingold - because sometimes experience is bad experience. Ask the Bush/Cheney Administration.

Rodeodoc: Exactly what Great Moment in History is Bill Clinton known for? What earth changing event did Hillary experience alongside Bill?

How about being at the center of eight years of relative peace, prosperity, fiscal restraint, as well as having an excellent relationship and reputation with most of the other countries of the world. As opposed to "your guy" who is batting 100% in making the worst possible decision at every single critical juncture.

Do you need me to list these massive failures out?

Dodd/Feingold - because they can run this country better than the rest of the assholes.

Random Reality Check: How about being at the center of eight years of relative peace, prosperity, fiscal restraint, as well as having an excellent relationship and reputation with most of the other countries of the world.

While Bill Clinton was a decent president, crediting him with all that, I think, is a little ludicrous.

hillary4real: Hillary was NOT just a witness.
You are fooling yourself if you think that she wasnt a major contributor to Bill's policies.
She was not just some intern, she was his wife.

Yeah, the intern he would have sex with.

Still ain't voting for her, bucky.

NewportBarGuy: No one has any farking idea how important the job of POTUS is until they get their first real briefing.

But somehow, YOU know this.

Much as I don't like Hillary, I have this feeling that she has a pretty good notion about what the job involves.

No one has any farking idea how important the job of POTUS is until they get their first real briefing.

Indeed. When they come out of that first transitional meeting with the president with that deer-in-headlights look. After they've been showed the locked away folder about UFOs, what really happened at Roswell, Bigfoot, etc.

P.S. Dodd's line was good, but Obama shot off a pretty good one at Clinton, too, something along the lines of "knowledge of foreign affairs isn't just how many ambassadors you've had tea with."

psychotic_calm: Random Reality Check: How about being at the center of eight years of relative peace, prosperity, fiscal restraint, as well as having an excellent relationship and reputation with most of the other countries of the world.

While Bill Clinton was a decent president, crediting him with all that, I think, is a little ludicrous.

How about if I amend my statement to start off with "As compared to the administration we currently have..."

Would that make you feel more comfortable with my original statement?

Random Reality Check: "Would that make you feel more comfortable with my original statement?"

For me: Not much. Those 8 years had next to nothing to do with Hillary. She was primarily a bystander.

underbridge: OK, I this is going to sound bad but...

Seriously, how can anyone legitimately consider voting for a woman for president? Hillary is known to be emotional and short tempered, thats NOT what we need for dealing with foreign powers or critical situations.

Honestly, think of every woman in your office. Think of all your ex girlfriends/wives. Does "rational & level headed" come to mind or does something else?

I know it is sexist to admit it, but come on. Even the smartest and most grounded women I know still let their emotions guide them at least once in a while. It's one thing to be a senator where having a bad day isn't going to do too much harm, but we can't afford to have a president have a "bad day" while Pakistan is plunging itself into civil war.

this is what we call hurting your cause by opening your mouth.

stop talking, you're gonna make people vote for her just to spite sexist morons like you.

Rodeodoc: Exactly what Great Moment in History is Bill Clinton known for?

How about dodging, ignoring and trying to placate every terrorist group that attacked us during his presidency? Yeah, I think that's it.

simsite9: I'd just assume keep him

Ah, one of those idioms that people botch because they don't even realize what they're saying. The phrase you're looking for is "just as soon".

miseducated: this guy's changed his position more often than a porn movie cast with ADD patients.

Ten points.

sigdiamond2000: Of all the horrible consequences of the show "The West Wing", I think the worst is that the term "POTUS" has come into common use.

It always sounds like a brand of toilet seat to me.

tony41454: Rodeodoc: Exactly what Great Moment in History is Bill Clinton known for?

How about dodging, ignoring and trying to placate every terrorist group that attacked us during his presidency? Yeah, I think that's it.

Yes, catching, prosecuting and incarcerating the terrorists that did the first WTC bombing as well as the attack on the US Cole was definitely ignoring the problem.

And with all the support *cough*wag the dog*cough* the Republican Congress was, as well as all you swell conservatives, I can see why you'd need to lie your ass off, I'd be embarrassed too!

Moron.
Tell me you don't really believe the crap you post here.
Seriously.

sigdiamond2000: Of all the horrible consequences of the show "The West Wing", I think the worst is that the term "POTUS" has come into common use.

They canceled "First Monday" before "SCOTUS" took off too.

subby: Obama and Edwards to their speechwriters - "Where were you on that one, dipshiat?"

"Happy Gilmore" reference FTW!

miseducated: this guy's changed his position more often than a porn movie cast with ADD patients.

be glad I swallowed my coffee before I read that ;)

miseducated: this guy's changed his position more often than a porn movie cast with ADD patients.

so glad i wasn't drinking anything when i read that.

Random Reality Check: tony41454: Rodeodoc: Exactly what Great Moment in History is Bill Clinton known for?

How about dodging, ignoring and trying to placate every terrorist group that attacked us during his presidency? Yeah, I think that's it.

Yes, catching, prosecuting and incarcerating the terrorists that did the first WTC bombing as well as the attack on the US Cole was definitely ignoring the problem.

And with all the support *cough*wag the dog*cough* the Republican Congress was, as well as all you swell conservatives, I can see why you'd need to lie your ass off, I'd be embarrassed too!

Moron.
Tell me you don't really believe the crap you post here.
Seriously.

Fixed. Do some research fukker.

JQPublic: Random Reality Check: tony41454: Rodeodoc: Exactly what Great Moment in History is Bill Clinton known for?

How about dodging, ignoring and trying to placate every terrorist group that attacked us during his presidency? Yeah, I think that's it.

Yes, catching, prosecuting and incarcerating the terrorists that did the first WTC bombing as well as the attack on the US Cole was definitely ignoring the problem.

And with all the support *cough*wag the dog*cough* the Republican Congress was, as well as all you swell conservatives, I can see why you'd need to lie your ass off, I'd be embarrassed too!

Moron.
Tell me you don't really believe the crap you post here.
Seriously.

Fixed. Do some research fukker.

So in the three months and what, nineteen days between the attack on the USS Cole and the day that Il Arbusto was inaugurated, the Clinton administration did no investigating? The FBI and Military investigators weren't in Yemen looking for the minds behind the mayhem? You mean those reports of Clinton sending military support to the region to protect our other assets were bogus?????

Somehow, I don't think "ignoring the problem" means what you think it means.

Do some research, buttercup.

JQPublic: Random Reality Check: tony41454: Rodeodoc: Exactly what Great Moment in History is Bill Clinton known for?

How about dodging, ignoring and trying to placate every terrorist group that attacked us during his presidency? Yeah, I think that's it.

Yes, catching, prosecuting and incarcerating the terrorists that did the first WTC bombing as well as the attack on the US Cole was definitely ignoring the problem.

And with all the support *cough*wag the dog*cough* the Republican Congress was, as well as all you swell conservatives, I can see why you'd need to lie your ass off, I'd be embarrassed too!

Moron.
Tell me you don't really believe the crap you post here.
Seriously.

Fixed. Do some research fukker.

I'm sure you can back up that asinine statement.
Didn't those very attackers escape for a prison in Yemen?
Well how about that, yes they did! (new window)

Here's a tip, being informed, actually informed, is a really good way to not make a complete jackass out of yourself. You should give this strategy some serious consideration - asshole.

Folderol: Robo73: "I was the guy doing his job,. Who the fark are you!"

Any "Departed" quote gets the Folderol Seal of Approval.

The actual quotes are:

"Oh, who the fark are you?"

"I'm the guy who does his job. You must be the other guy."

/Movie snob

ZombiesezCafeeeeeennnn: JQPublic: Random Reality Check: tony41454: Rodeodoc: Exactly what Great Moment in History is Bill Clinton known for?

How about dodging, ignoring and trying to placate every terrorist group that attacked us during his presidency? Yeah, I think that's it.

Yes, catching, prosecuting and incarcerating the terrorists that did the first WTC bombing as well as the attack on the US Cole was definitely ignoring the problem.

And with all the support *cough*wag the dog*cough* the Republican Congress was, as well as all you swell conservatives, I can see why you'd need to lie your ass off, I'd be embarrassed too!

Moron.
Tell me you don't really believe the crap you post here.
Seriously.

Fixed. Do some research fukker.

So in the three months and what, nineteen days between the attack on the USS Cole and the day that Il Arbusto was inaugurated, the Clinton administration did no investigating? The FBI and Military investigators weren't in Yemen looking for the minds behind the mayhem? You mean those reports of Clinton sending military support to the region to protect our other assets were bogus?????

Somehow, I don't think "ignoring the problem" means what you think it means.

Do some research, buttercup.

Somehow, I don't think catching, prosecuting and incarcerating the terrorists that did the first WTC bombing as well as the attack on the US Cole means what you thinks it means.

None of this (US Cole bomber catching, prosecuting, incarceration) happened under Clinton. Stop creditting him with imaginary acts of heroism. Clinton has already finished, tucked it back in, zipped it up, patted you on top of the head, and walked away seven years ago, time to get off your knees