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(globegazette) Interesting In Iowa, Giuliani is tied with McCain, and Ron Paul at 8%, but the margin of error could put him anywhere from 9-11%   (globegazette.com) divider line 44
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Jaykzo 2007-12-28 04:40:28 PM  
Since a lot of Paul's support is under the political radar, I'm going to guess he'll be taking 3rd in Iowa and 2nd in New Hampshire.

I'm guessing a lot of late-state wins, too, the areas with low turnout percentages might be easily overturned to his die-hard supporters.

Oh, and 9/11

 
Folderol [TotalFark] 2007-12-28 04:47:55 PM  
Ooooh, saw whatcha did there, subby, and I LIKE it.

 
DarthBrooks [TotalFark] 2007-12-28 06:07:35 PM  
Greenlit and the words "Ron Paul" in the headline?

You whores!

 
thefloyd [TotalFark] 2007-12-28 06:11:38 PM  
I LOLed.

 
PlantMan 2007-12-28 06:38:38 PM  
GREAT headline...

Observation here: We need more videos and picks making fun of the Republicker hopefuls, as I'm getting tired of all the "if Hillary wins, we're farked" emails...

and did I mention? 9/11

 
robsul82 [TotalFark] 2007-12-28 06:41:17 PM  
Hahahahahaha.

I love you, subby. I honestly do.

 
NewportBarGuy [TotalFark] 2007-12-28 06:59:06 PM  
I would, 9/11, like to, 9/11, congratulate the subby, 9/11, on a fine headline. 9.....11

 
bitteroldman 2007-12-28 08:16:23 PM  
Just for PlantMan

i221.photobucket.com

 
Jaykzo 2007-12-28 08:22:17 PM  
My first and only 9/11+Giuliani headline and they gave it the green. Theres a lesson to be learned here.....

 
KramericaWallet 2007-12-28 08:50:21 PM  
1. Giuliani isn't completely dead yet, but I bet he's hitting himself and his campaign staff over not campaigning in Iowa all these months. Come on, Iowa is the most important state, this ain't rocket science here.

2. 31% of Republicans say they're likely or very likely to change their minds? Can someone explain this? If you think you're going to change your mind, why haven't you already?

 
DoWhatNowToWhat 2007-12-28 08:53:50 PM  
Jaykzo: My first and only 9/11+Giuliani headline and they gave it the green. Theres a lesson to be learned here.....

Congrats!

/I'm really not sure what is worse, Giuliani and his 9/11 speeches or hearing Reagan take credit for bringing down Communism.

 
Jaykzo 2007-12-28 08:55:16 PM  
Kramerica

I really think Rudy thought he could 9/11 his way to the White House. His name recognition was far greater than any of the other candidates, and I think he figured that was enough to win.

 
torquestripe 2007-12-28 09:04:44 PM  
Rudy will not get the nomination, period. Rudy and John mcCain have had cancer. Americans don't vote for cancer patients.
Paul is as a perceived racists nut job. No White house for him either.
Huckabee is a proven secular nut job. No oval office for him.
Romney, although a flip floppin' idiot, will more than likely get the nomination.

 
noneoftheabove 2007-12-28 09:15:50 PM  
torquestripe


That's my take on it too.

 
quizzical 2007-12-28 09:15:57 PM  
torquestripe: Rudy will not get the nomination, period. Rudy and John mcCain have had cancer. Americans don't vote for cancer patients.
Paul is as a perceived racists nut job. No White house for him either.
Huckabee is a proven secular nut job. No oval office for him.
Romney, although a flip floppin' idiot, will more than likely get the nomination.


Don't for get Thompson! He's a well known actor, and his policy positions have been just vague enough to appeal to a broad audience without pissing too many others off.

 
SharkUW 2007-12-28 09:17:28 PM  
quizzical: Don't for get Thompson! He's a well known actor, and his policy positions have been just vague enough to appeal to a broad audience without pissing too many others off.

That piece of shiat is bought and paid for more than most of the other candidates...combined.

 
Opiate of the Lasses 2007-12-28 09:35:18 PM  
packy.dardan.com



/oh, and 9/11

 
1984 is Coming 2007-12-28 10:02:34 PM  
KramericaWallet
31% of Republicans say they're likely or very likely to change their minds? Can someone explain this?

Have you noticed how bad the current republican candidates are? The three leaders are a multi-divorced, cousin-marrying, crossdresser, a foaming at the mouth insane southern baptist theocrat, and a mormon who flip flops as much as John Kerry.

Plus, abortion is probably the key issue which let GWB win in 2000 and 2004 as there are a TON of voters for whom abortion trumps pretty much everything else, and both Rudy and Mitt have pro-abortion histories with only recent pro-life lip service.

The republican party is in serious trouble. The only guy advocating things like limited federal power and conservative fiscal policies is Dr. Paul who is labeled an outsider, while Huckabee spouts insane bullshiat but the unwashed masses have been told he's god's candidate so they support him.

I'm a lifelong republican. I'm voting for Ron Paul in the primaries, but I may very well vote for a democrat for the first time in my life in 2008 depending on how things go.

Obama vs Rudy/Romney/Huckaretard -- I'll vote for Obama
Hillary vs Rudy/Romney --- I'll vote Repub or third party
Hillary vs Huckabee --- I will lose all faith in humanity and attempt suicide by vodak on election day.

 
InferiousX [recently expired TotalFark] 2007-12-28 10:02:57 PM  
Here's a more important question. More important to me anyways.

Why the hell are Iowa and New Hampshire so goddamned important? I mean, i've had the actual reasons laid out to me before, but it just doesn't seem right.

If you followed only the election coverage, you'd think that the next president of the U.S. is determined by Iowa, Ohio, Florida, New Hampshire, California, and that's it.

 
KramericaWallet 2007-12-28 10:19:27 PM  
inferiousX

They're so important because people let them be important, by rallying around whoever wins there instead of voting for whoever they agreed with. It's like, I think Mr. A is the most in line with my views, but Mr. B won in Iowa, so that must mean he's better. No one wants the candidate they vote for to lose, and one way to avoid that is to vote for whoever you think is most likely to win. Sure it's completely illogical, but that's got nothing to do with it.

In other words, I blame the voters. Of course, you're right it ain't right, but there are many many things in this country (and other ones) which ain't right.

 
last_ditch 2007-12-28 10:25:57 PM  
InferiousX 2007-12-28 10:02:57 PM
If you followed only the election coverage, you'd think that the next president of the U.S. is determined by Iowa, Ohio, Florida, New Hampshire, California, and that's it.

Uh, cuz we live in a democracy. duh.

Or would you rather have us live in places like Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, Iran, Iraq under Saddam or Venezuela under Chavez, where there aren't elections?

 
DarkSoulNoHope 2007-12-28 10:45:52 PM  
last_ditch Or would you rather have us live in places like Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, Iran, Iraq under Saddam or Venezuela under Chavez, where there aren't elections?

I rather live in a society where every vote counts. The reason why we have the electoral college is because communication between American states was limited in our early history, we needed to vote for people who would give our choice for president back then. The only reason we keep it today, is because various states don't want to become "flyover" locations because of their limited populations.

 
USP .45 2007-12-28 10:49:39 PM  
Go McCain!

/RP supporter

 
Wraithbane 2007-12-28 10:51:16 PM  
I'd vote for Hillary before I'd vote for Paul.

 
USP .45 2007-12-28 10:51:30 PM  
1984 is Coming: I'm a lifelong republican. I'm voting for Ron Paul in the primaries, but I may very well vote for a democrat for the first time in my life in 2008 depending on how things go.

Obama vs Rudy/Romney/Huckaretard -- I'll vote for Obama


You're doing it wrong.

 
Chess90 2007-12-28 10:54:03 PM  
derekdoes.files.wordpress.com

 
noneoftheabove 2007-12-28 10:58:47 PM  
DarkSoulNoHope

The only reason we keep it today, is because various states don't want to become "flyover" locations because of their limited populations.


Actually, that was part of the goal from the beginning. Do you really think the smaller colonies would have agreed to join up in the first place if they had no political power?

 
Jaykzo 2007-12-28 11:05:39 PM  
Chess90

Great picture.

 
Florida pisses on Cuba 2007-12-28 11:35:11 PM  
If subby learned when (not) to use commas, maybe I could have understand his headline within 3 tries.

 
overzealous 2007-12-28 11:48:34 PM  
I'm voting for Paul in the primaries, but I have little faith in him making it to the general election. The only other candidate I would vote for would be Obama. He's far and away the least offensive.

Hillary - my husband was president, and we crave power
Edwards - I know he's a lawyer, but he just screams shady used car salesman to me
Kucinich - I see space people
Thompson - like Reagan, I'm a shiatty actor
McCain - Feingold act sucks
Huck - I'll protect us from last weeks threat, by jeebus
Rudy - 9/11
Romney - wtf is with Mass. and hair? "conservative" John Kerry

If the election ends up being one of these assholes versus another of these assholes, I'm going to make like a chad and hang

 
SharkUW 2007-12-29 12:04:32 AM  
1984 is Coming: KramericaWallet
31% of Republicans say they're likely or very likely to change their minds? Can someone explain this?

Have you noticed how bad the current republican candidates are? The three leaders are a multi-divorced, cousin-marrying, crossdresser, a foaming at the mouth insane southern baptist theocrat, and a mormon who flip flops as much as John Kerry.

Plus, abortion is probably the key issue which let GWB win in 2000 and 2004 as there are a TON of voters for whom abortion trumps pretty much everything else, and both Rudy and Mitt have pro-abortion histories with only recent pro-life lip service.

The republican party is in serious trouble. The only guy advocating things like limited federal power and conservative fiscal policies is Dr. Paul who is labeled an outsider, while Huckabee spouts insane bullshiat but the unwashed masses have been told he's god's candidate so they support him.

I'm a lifelong republican. I'm voting for Ron Paul in the primaries, but I may very well vote for a democrat for the first time in my life in 2008 depending on how things go.

Obama vs Rudy/Romney/Huckaretard -- I'll vote for Obama
Hillary vs Rudy/Romney --- I'll vote Repub or third party
Hillary vs Huckabee --- I will lose all faith in humanity and attempt suicide by vodak on election day.


Wait, you voted for Bush...twice? I am going to have to hate you.

/voted for him the first time.
//I'm really sorry.
///...really really really sorry

 
1984 is Coming 2007-12-29 12:16:40 AM  
USP .45
You're doing it wrong.

In my opinion, they're doing it wrong. I want a small government, I want low taxes, I want minimal regulations on industry and I want a free market.

What I'm not for is banning gay marriage, doubling the size of gitmo, trying to make the US a christian theocracy and treating possession of drugs like rape or murder.

Even if I don't agree with some (most?) of Obama's positions, I feel like my life, and Americans in general, would still be fine under his presidency for 4 years and my vote would be punitive towards these farking social conservative neocons. Maybe in 2012 they'd consider the "true conservative" or "libertarian" portions of the party instead of just the neoconservatives.

Hillary though, she is pure evil and I have to admit I don't have that same "I'll be fine for 4 years" feeling w/ that conniving, power-hungry crook in the white house. So no matter who the republicans nominate I won't vote for her.

 
underbridge 2007-12-29 12:22:21 AM  
1984 is Coming
Obama vs Rudy/Romney/Huckaretard -- I'll vote for Obama
Hillary vs Rudy/Romney --- I'll vote Repub or third party
Hillary vs Huckabee --- I will lose all faith in humanity and attempt suicide by vodak on election day.


I see something like this from soo many republicans right now. They're fed up with their own party, and willing to vote against it, as long as it is for anyone but hillary.

Why oh why is anyone supporting hillary? If we all get Obama (or edwards) as the nominee from our party we will win the general election EASY. Larger margins than we've seen in two decades.

Stop letting the shills at CNN tell you what to think! Obama will win the general election by a landslide, but hillary is our chance to pull defeat out in the face of almost certain victory.

 
Jaykzo 2007-12-29 12:31:35 AM  
Florida pisses on Cuba: If subby learned when (not) to use commas, maybe I could have understand his headline within 3 tries.

When I submitted it, the second comma wasn't there. I suspect some crazed English-nazi admin changed it for his own sadistic reasons.

 
KramericaWallet 2007-12-29 12:33:33 AM  
overzealous

Are you saying lawyers are better than used car salesmen? Tough call.

 
ScubaDude1960 [TotalFark] 2007-12-29 03:07:14 AM  
Jaykzo: My first and only 9/11+Giuliani headline and they gave it the green. Theres a lesson to be learned here.....

Unfortunately, the lesson is not about the proper use of the apostrophe.

 
ScubaDude1960 [TotalFark] 2007-12-29 03:09:18 AM  
torquestripe: Rudy will not get the nomination, period. Rudy and John mcCain have had cancer. Americans don't vote for cancer patients.
Paul is as a perceived racists nut job. No White house for him either.
Huckabee is a proven secular nut job. No oval office for him.
Romney, although a flip floppin' idiot, will more than likely get the nomination.


Paul is not perceived as a nut job... he's portrayed in the media as a nut job. There's a difference.

 
ScubaDude1960 [TotalFark] 2007-12-29 03:31:08 AM  
1984 is Coming: Obama vs Rudy/Romney/Huckaretard -- I'll vote for Obama
Hillary vs Rudy/Romney --- I'll vote Repub or third party
Hillary vs Huckabee --- I will lose all faith in humanity and attempt suicide by vodak on election day.


Obama vs Rudy/Romney/Huckaretard - I'll vote Libertarian
Hillary vs Rudy/Romney - I'll vote Libertarian
Hillary vs Huckabee - I'll vote Libertarian

I lost all faith in humanity a loooong time ago.

overzealous: Hillary - my husband was president, and we crave power
Edwards - I know he's a lawyer, but he just screams shady used car salesman to me
Kucinich - I see space people
Thompson - like Reagan, I'm a shiatty actor
McCain - Feingold act sucks
Huck - I'll protect us from last weeks threat, by jeebus
Rudy - 9/11
Romney - wtf is with Mass. and hair? "conservative" John Kerry


Hillary - I'll raise your taxes, take away what little freedom you have left, and continue a foreign policy that will guarantee more terrorism
Edwards - I'll raise your taxes, take away what little freedom you have left, and continue a foreign policy that will guarantee more terrorism
Kucinich - I'll raise your taxes and take away what little freedom you have left
Thompson - I'll raise your taxes, take away what little freedom you have left, and continue a foreign policy that will guarantee more terrorism
McCain - I'll raise your taxes, take away what little freedom you have left, and continue a foreign policy that will guarantee more terrorism
Huck - I'll raise your taxes, take away what little freedom you have left, and continue a foreign policy that will guarantee more terrorism
Rudy - I'll raise your taxes, take away what little freedom you have left, and continue a foreign policy that will guarantee more terrorism
Romney - I'll raise your taxes, take away what little freedom you have left, and continue a foreign policy that will guarantee more terrorism

/Ron Paul '08

 
TOPGUN101 2007-12-29 04:02:54 AM  
ScubaDude1960

Obama vs Rudy/Romney/Huckaretard - I'll vote Libertarian
Hillary vs Rudy/Romney - I'll vote Libertarian
Hillary vs Huckabee - I'll vote Libertarian

/Ron Paul '08




Ron Paul? Liberation? Here's a graph to help

www.politicalcompass.org

 
Comrade438 2007-12-29 05:05:10 AM  
ScubaDude1960: Kucinich - I'll raise your taxes and take away what little freedom you have left and disarm the United States to a laughably weak level.

Fixt. In so far as I know, even Ron Paul has yet to suggest remaining the Department of Defense to the Department of Peace.

 
FlashHarry [TotalFark] 2007-12-29 10:43:48 AM  
ScubaDude1960: Paul is not perceived as a nut job... he's portrayed in the media as a nut job. There's a difference.

this is what sunk howard dean.

remember the "dean scream?" have you ever heard it in context - that is, with the accompanying crowd noise? it sounds perfectly normal. but when cnn (or whoever) played it with just the audio from his hand-held mic, he sounded like a madman.

 
King Something [TotalFark] 2007-12-29 12:41:39 PM  
DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU 9/11 DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU

/nine-eleven

 
Durendal [TotalFark] 2007-12-29 03:41:31 PM  
TOPGUN101, cut the crap already. Anyone can throw together a graph made with some BS online political compass meter.

 
exley 2008-01-01 07:22:11 PM  
comrade438
Fixt. In so far as I know, even Ron Paul has yet to suggest remaining the Department of Defense to the Department of Peace.


Ministry of Peace?
you mean? Very Orwellian. Scary

 
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