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RoyBatty

Holy crap, I had never seen the word "love" written across the Beatles in that cover before.

See, Fark is educational.

Anarchangel: RoyBatty

Holy crap, I had never seen the word "love" written across the Beatles in that cover before.

See, Fark is educational.

On the back cover of that album, they spell out "fark", but the unfiltered word.

Old news is good news?

Trent's release of the song files was the best part of his newest cd. I like being able to listen to individual parts of NIN songs.

No. We don't care. We're not impressed. This is the underground, and can you give us what you stole back?

Did anyone actually read it?

Seems the next album might actually have a point or something at least, which is good.

Even though i have no respect for Treznor and his ways ever since he was successfully sued for stealing some of the songs on his "breakthrough" album (downward spiral) and i also hate pop industrial in general, he might actually do something worthwhile, even though the music will still be rehashes of things he heard others do he may bring public exposure to something.

Hands off my Joy Division you no talent ass-bag!

Wasn't Muse doing this a lot their past three albums?

Sounds like a BFD to me.

/didn't RTFA

So what did the code say, I got bored....and where does is say love on the beatles cover?

HE◊DIE

First part: Reznor had stepped into a new kind of interactive: one where players don't just passively consume the story.

/working on the second part now

J. Frank Parnell: Did anyone actually read it?

A little reverse engineering does the job!

First group:

"Reznor had stepped into a new kind of interactive fiction: one where players don't just passively consume the story."

Upon successfully entering that into the orange boxes, a new window will open to:

http://www.wired.com/entertainment/music/multimedia/2007/12/ff_arg_red


Second group:

"Run through a spectrograph, the cricket sounds resolved into a Cleveland phone number. The 2 million people who called it heard the sound of a woman at a night club shrieking that she was going to die.

Upon successfully entering that into the orange boxes, a new window will open to:

http://www.wired.com/entertainment/music/multimedia/2007/12/ff_arg_la


=Smidge=
/Merry Christmas from your local geek.

Just as long as they keep the pie away from me....

//not obscure

Whoop, sorry SirGnarls: - didn't see ya there...

Yeah, anyway, seeing it was Javascript, I scanned the source for the validation function. Not finding it, I looked for all the included javascript files and found "ff_args.js" (Located at http://www.wired.com/js/magazine/ff_args.js). In there was a rather convoluted pair of functions that tested each box for the expected value individually... remove the cruft around the letters to reveal the sentences.

I'mma have another drink. Cheers!
=Smidge=

Neurocam, anybody?

Now that one is obscure.

J. Frank Parnell: Did anyone actually read it?


Even though i have no respect for Treznor and his ways ever since he was successfully sued for stealing some of the songs on his "breakthrough" album (downward spiral)


Nice fail there, douche.


"Another obstacle came for Trent in 1997, when a musician named Mark Nicholas Onofrio sued Reznor for supposedly stealing his songs. Onofrio claimed that major parts of songs such as Burn and Closer, among others, were stolen ideas from demo tapes that Onofrio sent Trent after they met in an internet chatroom. From the beginning, Reznor denied all accusations, never missing an opportunity to unload a slew of obscenities in Onofrio's direction. After several preliminary hearings, the case was thrown out of court by a Los Angeles judge."

the best thing Trent reznor ever did was to let johnny cash cover one of his songs.

I plugged in all the colored letters and got:

"Drink more Ovaltine"

Papagolash: the case was thrown out of court by a Los Angeles judge.

love the guy saying trent got the demo for Closer after chatting in an internet chat room. Given there were no internet chat rooms when Downward Spiral came out.

EZRyder645: the best thing Trent reznor ever did was to let johnny cash cover one of his songs.

There was no "let" involved, just happened that Johnny and Rick Rubin liked it and thought it was worth doing.

WhyteRaven74: Papagolash: the case was thrown out of court by a Los Angeles judge.

love the guy saying trent got the demo for Closer after chatting in an internet chat room. Given there were no internet chat rooms when Downward Spiral came out.

1997 > 1988.

Internet Relay Chat (IRC) is a form of real-time Internet chat or synchronous conferencing. It is mainly designed for group (many-to-many) communication in discussion forums called channels, but also allows one-to-one communication via private message and data transfers via Direct Client-to-Client.

IRC was created by Jarkko "WiZ" Oikarinen in late August 1988 to replace a program called MUT (MultiUser talk) on a BBS called OuluBox in Finland. Oikarinen found inspiration in a chat system known as Bitnet Relay, which operated on the BITNET.

IRC gained prominence when it was used to report on the Soviet coup attempt of 1991 throughout a media blackout. It was previously used in a similar fashion by Kuwaitis during the Iraqi invasion. Relevant logs are available from ibiblio archive.

I miss Nine Inch Nails. Whatever happened to Trent Reznor?

/still pretending it ended before The Fragile

Second part: Run through a spectrograph, the cricket sounds resolved into a Cleveland phone number. The 2 million people who called it heard the sound of a woman at a night club shrieking that she was going to die.

VulpesVulpes: 1997 > 1988.

yeah, except very few people used IRcoontil about 94/95. No surprise given the number of people who had net access until then.

Any Pie Left: I plugged in all the colored letters and got:

"Drink more Ovaltine"

Win

. On April 13, all the players who had signed up at a subversive site called Open Source Resistance were invited to gather beneath a mural in Hollywood. Some of those who showed up were given cell phones and told to keep them on at all times. Five days later, the phones rang. The players were told to report to a parking lot, where they were loaded onto a ram-shackle bus with blacked-out windows.
The bus delivered them at twilight to what appeared to be an abandoned warehouse near some railroad tracks. Armed men patrolled the roof. The 50-odd players were led up a ramp and into a large, dark room where the leader of Open Source Resistance (actually an actor) gave a speech about the importance of making themselves heard. Then they were led through a maze of rooms and deposited in front of - a row of amps?
With the sudden crack of a drumbeat, Nine Inch Nails materialized onstage and broke into "The Beginning of the End," a song they had never before played in the US. "This is the beginning," Reznor intoned, as guitar chords strafed the room. He got out one, two, three, four more songs before the SWAT team arrived. Then, as flashing lights and flash bombs filled the room, men in riot gear stormed the stage. "Run for the bus!" someone yelled, and the players started sprinting. The bus sped them back to the parking lot and the cars that would take them safely home. But before they drove away, they were told they'd be contacted again.

In the old days, a band would just go to a local bar, talk to the owner, set up shop that night to play when they wanted to do something different. Now we have this, say what you will about his music (Pretty hate machine is pretty much his only album I've ever liked), but this is awesome and would be the best concert I've ever been to (if I had been "invited".

WhyteRaven74
love the guy saying trent got the demo for Closer after chatting in an internet chat room. Given there were no internet chat rooms when Downward Spiral came out.

Um, what? IRC. Internet Relay Chat. Even has file sharing. Assuming things haven't really changed too much in the piracy community in the past couple years, it should still be where the people who actually break binaries and DRM hang out.

Oh and when the internet only had less than a 1000 people on it, we used Unix "talk" combined with "finger" to do instant messaging. Even IM existed back then.

Glitchwerks:No. We don't care. We're not impressed. This is the underground, and can you give us what you stole back?

Glad to see that you're the embodiment of the underground, and claiming more cred than Trent Reznor.

I needed a laugh before bed. Thanks!

Internet n00bs STFU and GOML.

Here's the site that has the footage and concert from what Renowned transvestite sexologist was talking about.


Link (new window)

Trent Reznor looks like a narc in that picture.

The home for discussion of this stuff.

/been there for years
//nice folks, for geeks

Renowned transvestite sexologist:
Um, what? IRC. Internet Relay Chat. Even has file sharing. Assuming things haven't really changed too much in the piracy community in the past couple years, it should still be where the people who actually break binaries and DRM hang out.

Oh and when the internet only had less than a 1000 people on it, we used Unix "talk" combined with "finger" to do instant messaging. Even IM existed back then.

Even though they weren't part of the 'Internet' back then, the original 'chat rooms' were usually on AOL/Prodigy/Compuserve.

Oh the days of FIVE FREE HOURS!

I love NIN... all of it. Damn near every last song.

I'll just let that screech at you, the fact that someone likes something you so readily despise.

m0reta

I remember when AOL first let people receive email, but not send them. "Well, that's useless" was my first thought. Back when Free-ne dominated and I couldn't imagine anyone ever paying for internet access. When AOL jumped in to the whole internet thing, I couldn't help but chuckle that people were paying to get substandard internet access.

How time has changed. My local free-net still exists and offers free PPP over ISDN, but last I heard you really couldn't stay on more than a hour before it going dead. Over used and under funded. When I was on them, I always donated.

Any Pie Left: I plugged in all the colored letters and got:

"Drink more Ovaltine"

Must...obey....

Mentalpatient87: I love NIN... all of it. Damn near every last song.

I'll just let that screech at you, the fact that someone likes something you so readily despise.

I too am of the same opinion, and have several NIN cds myself, so we're really getting a kick out of all these replies.

YEAR ZERO = PARADISE THEATER

And about as tiresome.

Could there be a more hackneyed collection of post-cyber-punk
cliches ever assembled?

WhyteRaven74: love the guy saying trent got the demo for Closer after chatting in an internet chat room. Given there were no internet chat rooms when Downward Spiral came out.

Downward Spiral was released in 1994, and I can guarantee you that there were Internet Chat rooms long, long before that, considering that I wrote a PC-based Internet Chat client back in 1989.

Fomby_Belcher: Trent Reznor looks like a narc in that picture.

He's looked like a narc since The Fragile when he cut his hair and started wearing designer clothing. I swear, in every picture he's taken since then, he pouts. He actually does Zoolander. For someone so vocally anti-emo, he sure has the look down pat.
...that all being said, I love almost all of NIN, with the exception of With Teeth.

/and the ARG is old news.
//way old news.

I don't think the question is "when were chatrooms available for use?", I think it's more like "was anyone using those chatrooms to listen to music demos from someone else in the chatroom, so they could still their ideas?"

Given the type of internet access most people had at that time, and the much smaller number of people online at the time, it seems extremely unlikely.

Hell, even if someone made that accusation today(with today's broadband and huge online communities) about another artist I'd want to see proof that the alleged thief ever even saw their work, in addition to seeing proof that their works matches the suppposed stolen work.

Papagolash: the case was thrown out of court by a Los Angeles judge.

love the guy saying trent got the demo for Closer after chatting in an internet chat room. Given there were no internet chat rooms when Downward Spiral came out.

I'm pretty sure real-time chat was available in 1994. I know I was on AOL.

Birnone: I don't think the question is "when were chatrooms available for use?", I think it's more like "was anyone using those chatrooms to listen to music demos from someone else in the chatroom, so they could still their ideas?"

Given the type of internet access most people had at that time, and the much smaller number of people online at the time, it seems extremely unlikely.

Hell, even if someone made that accusation today(with today's broadband and huge online communities) about another artist I'd want to see proof that the alleged thief ever even saw their work, in addition to seeing proof that their works matches the suppposed stolen work.

This.
On the other hand, Reznor really DID steal David Bowie's "Crystal Japan" when he wrote "A Warm Place." Bowie doesn't seem to have minded, though.

DjangoStonereaver: YEAR ZERO = PARADISE THEATER Mr. Roboto.


FTFY.

Hi, I am Trent Reznor and I am a pompous ass who cries like a 12 year old girl. People that buy my records have no concept of real emotion or how to properly function in society. Therefore they think I am deep.

AltoidAddict Quote 2007-12-25 10:25:17 PM
Neurocam, anybody?

Now that one is obscure.
Nonsense. Would you like to play a game of chess?

WhyteRaven74

EZRyder645: the best thing Trent reznor ever did was to let johnny cash cover one of his songs.

There was no "let" involved, just happened that Johnny and Rick Rubin liked it and thought it was worth doing.

Um, Trent had to grant permission for Cash to cover the song since it was his song. That's where the "let" is involved.

SofaKingHuge: Um, Trent had to grant permission for Cash to cover the song since it was his song. That's where the "let" is involved.

You don't have to give permission to the writer to cover a song. You just have to pay.