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(NY Daily News) Asinine Hillary: Elect me and oil prices go down. And something about a frog in hot water   (nydailynews.com) divider line 43
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GaryPDX [TotalFark] 2007-12-23 06:19:09 PM  
She thinks she's the Oracle of Delphi now, she can predict the future.

 
Mordant [TotalFark] 2007-12-23 06:45:03 PM  
Won't the prices have to come down once she's elected and the economy is destroyed ? Unless the rest of the world steps up and keeps demand alive, of course.

 
GaryPDX [TotalFark] 2007-12-23 06:49:52 PM  
I so dread next year.

 
ManRay [TotalFark] 2007-12-23 08:24:12 PM  
She can affect oil prices now just about as much as she can if she's in the oval office. Why won't she save us from the awful high prices now, instead of waiting a year?

 
Rovian 2007-12-23 08:24:51 PM  
If Americans cut their demand of foreign oil, the price on a barrel will plummet.

Hillary is right.

 
machoprogrammer 2007-12-23 08:28:58 PM  
Rovian: If Americans cut their demand of foreign oil, the price on a barrel will plummet.

Hillary is right.


She is not right about how prices will instantly drop because of her inaugeral address, however. If you really believe what she says, you are a moran.

 
Flying Lasagna Monster 2007-12-23 08:29:56 PM  
A vote for Hillary is a vote for old lady cleavage!

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ScubaDude1960 [TotalFark] 2007-12-23 08:34:24 PM  
The only things that the government can do to lower gas prices are eliminate the gas tax, repeal costly EPA/OSHA/etc. regulations, end the income tax, or stop making drilling companies pay fees to drill offshore. Hillary ain't touching any of that.

 
hej 2007-12-23 08:38:09 PM  
Easy enough. All she has to do is empty out our oil reserves.

 
Chess90 2007-12-23 08:39:49 PM  
i144.photobucket.com

 
hej 2007-12-23 08:40:54 PM  
Rovian: If Americans cut their demand of foreign oil, the price on a barrel will plummet.

Hillary is right.


I love all the politicians that promise magically ending our dependence on oil, conveniently forgetting that we still have no alternative. And no, ethanol doesn't count.

 
67 Beetle 2007-12-23 08:45:01 PM  
This is the funniest thing I've heard in a month.

Unless her Chinese Masters decide to cooperate and drastically cut Chinese oil imports next Jan, I don't see this happening in any meaningful way.

 
limeyfellow 2007-12-23 08:49:15 PM  
And something about a frog in hot water

Nicolas Sarkozy?

 
gonepostal 2007-12-23 08:53:54 PM  
i hope there will be video of hildebeast when she finally figures out that the American public isn't stupid enough to elect her.

 
bayoubruce 2007-12-23 09:01:16 PM  
I think she is in the cold water and the heat is slowly being turned up..

 
LargeCanine 2007-12-23 09:05:08 PM  
ScubaDude1960: The only things that the government can do to lower gas prices are eliminate the gas tax, repeal costly EPA/OSHA/etc. regulations, end the income tax, or stop making drilling companies pay fees to drill offshore. Hillary ain't touching any of that.


And allow drilling in the Gulf and ANWAR, and permit the expansion and building of oil refineries.

 
Alphax 2007-12-23 09:12:36 PM  
I'll take anything said about Hillary from a Murdock paper with a massive grain of salt.

LargeCanine, I'd heard that the oil companies had already requested and gotten permission to build another refinery in the late 70's, and just never started it. But perhaps I didn't hear it correctly.

 
ecmoRandomNumbers [TotalFark] 2007-12-23 09:14:00 PM  
67 Beetle: Unless her Chinese Masters decide to cooperate and drastically cut Chinese oil imports next Jan, I don't see this happening in any meaningful way.

This.

Don't forget India. And Poland. Or something like that.

If we actually COULD find a viable alternative to gasoline, we wouldn't have to give a damn about the price of oil, and the point would be moot. That's not going to happen, though.

 
startinaflamewar 2007-12-23 09:19:28 PM  
All you GOPers are just women hating fascist farggots.
Her logic sounds pretty sound, you oil addicted ninnies.

 
Rovian 2007-12-23 10:15:38 PM  
Hej

I love all the politicians that promise magically ending our dependence on oil, conveniently forgetting that we still have no alternative. And no, ethanol doesn't count.


Your lack of imagination is disturbing and part of the general ignorance drowning what used to be the United States of America.

 
Rodeodoc 2007-12-23 10:19:10 PM  
Rovian If Americans cut their demand of foreign oil, the price on a barrel will plummet. Hillary is right.

Both you and Hillary are idiots. Nothing she does (except set prices by law) will affect the world price of oil. If our consumption drops, OPEC will sim0ply increase prices to make up for lost cash flow. If she mandates a price, we will be forced to use only US production because no one else will sell to us except at the world price. Of course, Hillary could always use your tax dollars to subsidize the oil price. That way she can lie and say she cut the price. Politicians have already screwed up the energy sector by giving subsidies to the ethanol industry. Now corn prices have gone up, increasing food prices. Ethanol is not a viable alternative to oil. It takes more to produce it than consumers can afford.

Any Presidential candidate that says s/he will have an impact on oil prices is a moran. The best thing a President can do to the economy is stay the hell out of it.

 
oryx 2007-12-23 10:33:06 PM  
Somebody tell me this is satire, because this is too dumb to be believed, even for a Presidential candidate.

 
texas_metal_pwns_all 2007-12-23 10:55:38 PM  
No one can touch the oil/gas prices. They are set by a world organization that matches the prices to the demand in the country. She cant change the demand for gas, oh but she can change the prices?

/not "buyin" it..
//voting for Ron Paul

 
ptelg 2007-12-23 11:05:16 PM  
Let's break this down, a few things stuck out to me, this is loosely quoted.

"Oil producing countries will reduce the cost of oil to head off an American movement to renewables."

Sorry Hill-Hill oil prices are set on the floor of commodities exchanges by Irish emigrant descendants in bad suits. I doubt that OPEC is going to raise their output to depress prices to head off an American movement toward "renewable" energy which will take several decades and in no way affect immediate demand.

Something that would depress demand is we all could decide we want to start biking to work. But, for me, in a month I'll be living in Albany, NY and biking in 18 inches of snow from December until March doesn't sound good.

 
dball2 2007-12-23 11:34:29 PM  
One thing is certain. Hillary has a bushy muff. And every chick that I have ever known with a forest of pubes was batshiatcrazy. I might have to vote for her based on that alone.

 
Chess90 2007-12-23 11:38:11 PM  
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feckingmorons [TotalFark] 2007-12-23 11:38:29 PM  

Oil pumping countries don't set the price. The market sets the price. Oil pumping countries only regulate output.


It worries me that she (most of the others avoid this) and her husband simply pull things out of their arse.


Oil prices go down if she is elected, WJC and GHWB are going on around the world good will trip, $5K for each new baby.


They simply make things up. Do they really think we are that stupid.


 
feckingmorons [TotalFark] 2007-12-23 11:42:09 PM  
hej:
I love all the politicians that promise magically ending our dependence on oil, conveniently forgetting that we still have no alternative. And no, ethanol doesn't count.


Ethanol is an alternative, a terrible alternative, but if you want the cost of food to keep going up and your fuel to give you 30% less energy to move your car per gallon it is an alternative.

 
Rovian 2007-12-23 11:56:47 PM  
Rodeodoc

Ethanol is not a viable alternative to oil. It takes more to produce it than consumers can afford.


Ethanol is a viable alternative, but t he method of distilling it needs work. By increasing our research and development budget we could have cellulosic ethanol within 10 years.

 
State_College_Arsonist 2007-12-24 12:14:32 AM  
Rovian: Ethanol is a viable alternative, but t he method of distilling it needs work. By increasing our research and development budget we could have cellulosic ethanol within 10 years.

-And that would simply exacerbate our fresh water problem, not to mention jack up food prices. Thanks, but no thanks.

 
Atillathepun [TotalFark] 2007-12-24 12:33:20 AM  
hej:

I love all the politicians that promise magically ending our dependence on oil, conveniently forgetting that we still have no alternative. And no, ethanol doesn't count.


There's no magic about it. If we institute programs to create alternate fuel sources (multiple differing sources. Dependence on one thing is always bad. See: Irish Potato Famine,) and fund them then, slowly but surely, we'll move away from foreign oil.

The fact that it will take time and infrastructure changes makes it all the more important that we start NOW.

 
Jennifer 2007-12-24 03:28:36 AM  
She has a point.....How many times has the U.S. started plans to build more refineries to lower the cost of fuel only to have foriegn lobbyist bend the ears of the legislature to make sure they never get built......Hell even she implemented a modest "real" mandatory amount of alternative energy production it would have a downward pressure on the price of oil....decrease the demand and you decrease the price simultaneously.....ah it would be nice to be free of the sand fleas yoke......then maybe they will start acting civil and enter the 21 century when all the have left to hawk is grade A sand.

 
thisispete [TotalFark] 2007-12-24 06:15:38 AM  
Who are all these sick bastards trying to boil innocent frogs just to prove a point?

 
ilambiquated 2007-12-24 08:28:44 AM  
Rodeodoc: Rovian If Americans cut their demand of foreign oil, the price on a barrel will plummet. Hillary is right.

Both you and Hillary are idiots. Nothing she does (except set prices by law) will affect the world price of oil. If our consumption drops, OPEC will sim0ply increase prices to make up for lost cash flow. If she mandates a price, we will be forced to use only US production because no one else will sell to us except at the world price. Of course, Hillary could always use your tax dollars to subsidize the oil price. That way she can lie and say she cut the price. Politicians have already screwed up the energy sector by giving subsidies to the ethanol industry. Now corn prices have gone up, increasing food prices. Ethanol is not a viable alternative to oil. It takes more to produce it than consumers can afford.

Any Presidential candidate that says s/he will have an impact on oil prices is a moran. The best thing a President can do to the economy is stay the hell out of it.


One thing is certain: Oil prices are far higher than production prices. The Saudis are still producing at $3 a barrel. So there are psychological forces at work.

 
Electrify 2007-12-24 09:11:03 AM  
1. Invest in oil alternatives, requiring us to buy less foreign oil
2. Oil prices will remain the same, Hillary is a lying douche

All you 'free market librul haters' are either hypocrites or retarded. Considering most of your posts, I vote the latter.

 
Propain_az 2007-12-24 09:49:43 AM  
When the Saviour is elected, of course oil prices will come down.....to 0.....everything will be free for all!!!

 
Nemo's Brother 2007-12-24 11:17:56 AM  
Wasn't her party that made sure we never really got on board of the nuclear power alternative? Yes, it was.

 
hej 2007-12-24 12:08:59 PM  
Rovian: Hej

I love all the politicians that promise magically ending our dependence on oil, conveniently forgetting that we still have no alternative. And no, ethanol doesn't count.


Your lack of imagination is disturbing and part of the general ignorance drowning what used to be the United States of America.


So Hillary will just use her imagination to solve this whole oil dependency problem? Jeez, I wish we would have thought to do that sooner....

 
hej 2007-12-24 12:15:00 PM  
Atillathepun: hej:

I love all the politicians that promise magically ending our dependence on oil, conveniently forgetting that we still have no alternative. And no, ethanol doesn't count.

There's no magic about it. If we institute programs to create alternate fuel sources (multiple differing sources. Dependence on one thing is always bad. See: Irish Potato Famine,) and fund them then, slowly but surely, we'll move away from foreign oil.

The fact that it will take time and infrastructure changes makes it all the more important that we start NOW.


"Slowly" being the key word. "Surely" should not even be assumed, since so far every supposide alternative has turned out to be impractical.

Does that mean I think we should just stay the course burning as much petroleum as possible? No. It just means I want to slap every politician that acts like they've got some solution to the problem, when the smartest scientists in the world still haven't been able to figure it out.

 
hej 2007-12-24 12:19:17 PM  
feckingmorons: hej:
I love all the politicians that promise magically ending our dependence on oil, conveniently forgetting that we still have no alternative. And no, ethanol doesn't count.

Ethanol is an alternative, a terrible alternative, but if you want the cost of food to keep going up and your fuel to give you 30% less energy to move your car per gallon it is an alternative.


Yes, and then there's also the fact (which most people seem to miss) we pay for ethanol twice. It might be cheaper at the pump, but thats only because the production of then corn used to make it is already heavily subsidized by our gubment. Take that subsidy away, and it will cost as much or more than good old gasoline.

 
machoprogrammer 2007-12-24 12:35:14 PM  
Flying Lasagna Monster: A vote for Hillary is a vote for old lady cleavage!

good god. bleach now!

 
Nemo's Brother 2007-12-24 12:40:00 PM  
Free healthcare, cheap oil, no war or more war depending on what day you ask her. Illegals driving around free, or not depending on what sentence she uttered.

She has already said that there isn't enough money for all her plans. I bet she'll do her best to get those funds though. Ownership and wealth is overrated and certainly not part of the American dream. Who needs them?

Hill-Dawg 2008

 
Rovian 2007-12-25 01:04:28 AM  
state_college

simply exacerbate our fresh water problem, not to mention jack up food prices.


Cellulosic ethanol doesn't use food stocks, it uses switchgrass and husks digested/fermented by bacteria to produce ethanol as a biproduct. The bacteria get a carbon source. The research required goes towards engineering a species that produces ethane/ethanol as a result. This is similar to the process through which cows use bacteria in their gut to breakdown the cellulose in grass and methane is released as side product. Its very sound science.

 
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