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(Chicago Sun-Times) Followup One-third of the women under 30 said Oprah stumping actually made them less likely to support Obama   (suntimes.com) divider line 34
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robsul82 [TotalFark] 2007-12-21 07:59:30 PM  
I would think the appeal of Oprah is to women ABOVE the age of 30.

 
SoxSweepAgain 2007-12-21 08:12:33 PM  
What a horrible poll. Not that I support Obama (I couldn't care less who the next president is, as long as it ain't Hucksterbee) but:

It only measured women 18-30 (and 18-24 year olds hardly vote, anyway)
It says 30% would be "less likely" to vote for him because of her support (and about 30% are probably Republican in NH at that age, anyway).
Then says that of the remainder "73% were unswayed by Oprah".

Well, 73% of the remaining 70% leaves 27% of 70% or about 16% that WERE swayed by her.

a 16% bump is HUGE.

 
cameroncrazy1984 [TotalFark] 2007-12-21 08:27:52 PM  
And it also means two-thirds said they would be more likely or the same. Poll is retarded.

 
Tabatha Static 2007-12-21 08:44:51 PM  
Is "stumping" like "pegging"? I always figured Stedman as a bend-over boyfriend.

 
Outlaw_Rudy [TotalFark] 2007-12-21 09:02:23 PM  
Who cares, young people don't vote anyway.

 
the_cnidarian 2007-12-21 09:20:22 PM  
And what the pollsters found was that Oprah made little difference in the way women are looking at the candidates.

What?!! Are women thinking for themselves now?

 
Letmeburyem [TotalFark] 2007-12-21 10:39:34 PM  
the_cnidarian:
What?!! Are women thinking for themselves now?


Are we? You tell me.

 
m0llusk [TotalFark] 2007-12-21 10:54:35 PM  
It gets the name out there, but is probably more of an early campaign thing. These events make me more likely to vote for Oprah.

 
Sharkface217 2007-12-21 11:05:15 PM  
SoxSweepAgain

Thread.

/every vote counts

 
mtb9000 2007-12-21 11:09:52 PM  
The pollsters interviewed 500 New Hampshire women -- to look at the views in this early primary state -- and 1,000 other women across the nation to determine their perspectives on the upcoming presidential election.

By statistics alone, whatever conclusions they draw are completely negated by the fact that they have a minute sample size.

 
DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke 2007-12-21 11:12:11 PM  
the 'hates oprah' vote is huge.

www.mlive.com

let's rock

 
coma 2007-12-21 11:16:21 PM  
mtb9000: The pollsters interviewed 500 New Hampshire women -- to look at the views in this early primary state -- and 1,000 other women across the nation to determine their perspectives on the upcoming presidential election.

By statistics alone, whatever conclusions they draw are completely negated by the fact that they have a minute sample size.


Go take a statistics class.

 
Time Traveler 2007-12-21 11:17:42 PM  
Oprah is an attention whore that does nothing that does not stroke her her massive ego!!!

 
mtb9000 2007-12-21 11:20:48 PM  
Coma: I personally think that +/- 4 degrees of freedom is a large amount of error. And that is just in New Hampshire.

 
erik-k [recently expired TotalFark] 2007-12-21 11:25:19 PM  
Time Traveler:

YOU NEED TO USE ALL CAPS TO MAKE SURE WE SEE YOUR POST NEXT TIME.

 
mtb9000 2007-12-21 11:35:37 PM  
*taps foot* Still waiting for my lesson in statistics...

 
FuriousGeorge945 2007-12-21 11:49:11 PM  
coma: mtb9000: The pollsters interviewed 500 New Hampshire women -- to look at the views in this early primary state -- and 1,000 other women across the nation to determine their perspectives on the upcoming presidential election.

By statistics alone, whatever conclusions they draw are completely negated by the fact that they have a minute sample size.

Go take a statistics class.


As dirty as it makes me feel saying it, I agree with what coma says.

500-1000 is generally an acceptable random sample size for national polls; most of the big ones like zogby and rasmussen use samples around this size.

mtb9000: Coma: I personally think that +/- 4 degrees of freedom is a large amount of error. And that is just in New Hampshire.

You lose 5 points for trying to sound like you know what you're talking about by saying 'degrees of freedom', even though you used it in a way which makes it obvious that you have no idea what it actually means.

mtb9000: *taps foot* Still waiting for my lesson in statistics...

Yeah, we can tell.

 
TripSixes 2007-12-21 11:49:42 PM  
What are the degrees of freedom, and how can you have
+/- four of them?

 
TripSixes 2007-12-21 11:50:17 PM  
Or, what he said.

 
bigforearms 2007-12-21 11:56:59 PM  
TripSixes: What are the degrees of freedom, and how can you have
+/- four of them?


They hate us for our degrees of freedom.

 
FuriousGeorge945 2007-12-21 11:58:52 PM  
bigforearms: TripSixes: What are the degrees of freedom, and how can you have
+/- four of them?

They hate us +/- four degrees of freedom.


fixed.

 
tallguywithglasseson [TotalFark] 2007-12-22 12:13:58 AM  
SoxSweepAgain: a 16% bump is HUGE.

Thread winner.

I like Obama, but what makes me a little nervous-
Oprah did introduce us to Dr. Phil.

 
Saiga410 2007-12-22 12:22:07 AM  
SoxSweepAgain: What a horrible poll. Not that I support Obama (I couldn't care less who the next president is, as long as it ain't Hucksterbee) but:

It only measured women 18-30 (and 18-24 year olds hardly vote, anyway)
It says 30% would be "less likely" to vote for him because of her support (and about 30% are probably Republican in NH at that age, anyway).
Then says that of the remainder "73% were unswayed by Oprah".

Well, 73% of the remaining 70% leaves 27% of 70% or about 16% that WERE swayed by her.

a 16% bump is HUGE.


That would be 16% of a subsect of 51% of the populus. The subsect least likely to vote by your admission. Final maybe 2-3% bump.

People and their Paulite math*

/*look a few threads down

 
Tor_Eckman [TotalFark] 2007-12-22 12:27:44 AM  
Wait-Women are allowed to vote now?

 
Alien5151 2007-12-22 01:03:10 AM  
I don't really understand the logic behind deciding not to vote for a candidate just because he has a public figure who supports him. Are celebrities not supposed to have opinions, or is this 30% just the Indie crowd who instinctively hate anything popular?

 
Atillathepun [TotalFark] 2007-12-22 03:02:46 AM  
mtb9000: *taps foot* Still waiting for my lesson in statistics...

You better stop tapping your foot like that, you might get an entirely different lesson. . .

 
phillydrifter 2007-12-22 09:10:27 AM  
One-third of the women under 30 POLLED said Oprah stumping actually made them less likely to support Obama

smitty FAILS

 
godofusa.com 2007-12-22 11:41:12 AM  
women can vote? wtf

 
bronyaur1 [TotalFark] 2007-12-22 12:02:08 PM  
... and when women under 30 start to vote in any numbers, this fact will become germane.

 
rga184 2007-12-22 02:03:37 PM  
the_cnidarian: What?!! Are women thinking for themselves now?

FTFA
they support her because she is a strong, smart woman and a role model, according to the poll.

Apparently not yet.

 
rga184 2007-12-22 02:04:53 PM  
bronyaur1: germane.

Why you gotta bring the Jackson 5 into a politics thread?

/obligatory

 
yem_tex 2007-12-22 05:37:09 PM  
Because women under 30 turn out to the polls in DROVES

 
madden101 2007-12-22 06:34:23 PM  
I wonder how likely they were to support Obama in the first place? What if you're a Republican who vehemently hates Oprah? The chance of you voting for Obama drops from 2/100 to 1/100. The point has also been made that Oprah probably wasn't brought in to curry favor among these females, but rather, among those more in Hillary's group: middle-aged lesbians. You know, people who loooooooooooove Oprah, Dr. Phil, Dr. Oz, etc. etc. etc.

 
bronyaur1 [TotalFark] 2007-12-23 01:06:57 AM  
rga184: bronyaur1: germane.

Why you gotta bring the Jackson 5 into a politics thread?

/obligatory


Gold.

 
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