I am completely shocked by this.

/Not so much

Why are they even prosecuting over this ? Seems like a simple frat prank to me, a non-story.

It was just some election hijinks. It's not like people actually think their votes counts for anything. What do you think this is, a Republic?

Held the prosecution until after the 04 elections?

How'd that work out for you?

Non story. Underzealous staffer.

Wait, you mean people will use police state powers to ensure political power?

Bush administration: "Hey America! Want sloppy seconds on Democracy after I'm finished with it?"

Well, they were too busy prosecuting that Arkansas Governor to do this one...

every day, another farking outrage. i swear, these people hate america more than a thousand bin ladens.

Nestea Plunge: The GOP is a criminal enterprise.

I'd like to see a RICO grand jury empaneled. Target rich environment.

Dancin_In_Anson:

Held the prosecution until after the 04 elections?

How'd that work out for you?

I've developed an intolerance for cat and mouse games. What's your point? A declarative statement is in order.

2wolves: Nestea Plunge: The GOP is a criminal enterprise.

I'd like to see a RICO grand jury empaneled. Target rich environment.

Who's Rich Environment?

r-u-n-n o-f-t: They had to delay the GOP NH phone jammer investigation so they could use their resources to expedite the Willy "Cold Cash" Jefferson investigation.

1/10.

seriously, is this your answer to every one of the myriad GOP corruption scandals: b...b...b... but william jefferson?

can you name a single farker who has ever defended him?

SherKhan: I've developed an intolerance for cat and mouse games. What's your point? A declarative statement is in order.

Farking morons thought that suppressing this would somehow help their chances on holding Congress...

Dancin_In_Anson: Farking morons thought that suppressing this would somehow help their chances on holding Congress...

Uhm... it did. The Republicans gained seats in 2004, a trial centered around the party (and possibly the White House) using its power to hamper Democratic efforts could have changed the results of the 2004 election.

You have attributed conditions to stupidity that simply result from villainy.



What a tweeest!

Remind me to send my congressmen a bucket of vomit, so they can see how completely disgusted I am.

Code_Archeologist: Uhm... it did. The Republicans gained seats in 2004, a trial centered around the party (and possibly the White House) using its power to hamper Democratic efforts could have changed the results of the 2004 election.

My bad...I'm thinking 2006...

/farcking job...Gets in the way of my farking.

Wow...I've never seen the tag explode like that...

Execute all of them. In the street.

r-u-n-n o-f-t: They had to delay the GOP NH phone jammer investigation so they could use their resources to expedite the Willy "Cold Cash" Jefferson investigation.

That's his answer to every allegation of GOP malfeasance. r-u-n-n o-f-t: is the reincarnation of FlashLV.

Now we just need Afternoon_Mighty_Leather_Dog_Hell_Bent_For_Delight to post his favorite irrelevant C&F cartoon.

Don't worry. Polosi and Reid are on the case.

/sigh

HotWingConspiracy: Execute all of them. In the street.

Execute all of them. In the street.

Go back to Russia, Mr. Putin.

Hey can you blame them.

Elections are bad news for repubs.

Why do you think the Supreme Court had to appoint him president.

cameroncrazy1984: Who's Rich Environment?

Ironic, since the GOP has been targeting our rich environment for many decades now.

I don't know what's more shocking: the headline or Dancin' in Anson getting his facts wrong.

HotWingConspiracy: Execute all of them. In the street.

on television.

IXI Jim IXI: on television.

You too, Mr. Murdoch.

IXI Jim IXI: HotWingConspiracy: Execute all of them. In the street.

on television.

In color.

DarnoKonrad: IXI Jim IXI: HotWingConspiracy: Execute all of them. In the street.

on television.

In color.

In magnificent stereophonic sound!

HotWingConspiracy: Execute all of them. Let's have a mini-revolution with beer and wings with extra sauce. In the street.

If you're going to summon trolls with that sort of thinking, you might as well throw a party while you're at it.

Seriously though, what would politics be if not for the shenanigans, the police, and the promise of civility broken by subtle forms of oppression.

This, for those who aren't keeping track, is pretty farking huge.

There were those who speculated that the DOJ was complicit in slowing down investigations, but here we have actual sources from within the DOJ making that claim, too.

That is conspiracy writ large.

And there is a whole lot of corroborating evidence that is coming to light that indicates this was not just a few 'bad apples' but a large scale GOP and administration effort.

Skleenar: This, for those who aren't keeping track, is pretty farking huge.

There were those who speculated that the DOJ was complicit in slowing down investigations, but here we have actual sources from within the DOJ making that claim, too.

That is conspiracy writ large.

And there is a whole lot of corroborating evidence that is coming to light that indicates this was not just a few 'bad apples' but a large scale GOP and administration effort.

Yes, but anyone who isn't brain dead has known this for awhile now -- much less suspected it. When it comes to GOP corruption I'm pretty cynical. I just don't see anything happening -- short of the GOP leadership walking out in the street and kicking babies in front of the police. . .I don't believe any justice is going to happen.

When are the heads gonna roll? The democratic leadership can't even keep the old agenda from being passed, much less roll it back and show some oversight and accountability.

Could this administration possibly be any more crooked?

>> I just don't see anything happening

Which is completely normal for the opposition when they don't have a veto proof majority.

Is this a surprise to you ?

The Why Not Guy: I don't know what's more shocking: the headline or Dancin' in Anson getting his facts wrong.

Y'know what, I'm gonna give Anson credit for admitting he had his facts wrong. Provided he links to some hot redheads.

lilbjorn: Could this administration possibly be any more crooked?

They are trying, but there just aren't enough laws left to break.

RminusQ: Y'know what, I'm gonna give Anson credit for admitting he had his facts wrong. Provided he links to some hot redheads.

You're absolutely right. I'm just fresh out of patience for torture apologists today.

Nestea Plunge: I think the German Nazi Party was only slightly more law abiding than the criminal Bush Regime.

So, how many unsuccessful casts do you make before you let your lures dry?

twilson2: >> I just don't see anything happening

Which is completely normal for the opposition when they don't have a veto proof majority.

Is this a surprise to you ?

No. Doesn't surprise me. But I don't buy that super-majority stuff either. Congress should be rigorously investigating this stuff, and if people don't appear, then throw them in jail.

Do you honestly believe anything is going to change after the election when the democrats might have a super-majority? No freaking way. By then it would look like the winners being vindictive, going after the minority party after the public already punished them out of office -- and hell the public by then may have forgotten what it was all about anyway.

There is no time like the present. And the Democrats lost and opportunity to look *gasp* principled -- rather than a bunch of calculating idiots (which is what the veto proof majority shiat sounds like)

If they wanted the public behind them, then should have made the case on the floors of congress and worked hard on prosecution of this administration -- the public may have gotten behind them and forced the sitting republicans to do some oversight themselves.

But now the time is lost. Sitting GOP members got a pass for the last two years. They didn't have to defend their party on the floor.

It's over.

Criminals, the lot of them.

Nestea Plunge: I think the German Nazi Party was only slightly more law abiding than the criminal Bush Regime.

They were much snappier dressers, though

DarnoKonrad: DarnoKonrad: IXI Jim IXI: HotWingConspiracy: Execute all of them. In the street.

on television.

In color.

In magnificent stereophonic sound!


On FoxNews in HD with 5.1 sound! I want to hear bullets ricochet and everything.

The thousands and thousands of bureaucrats who operate the day to day workings of our Executive branch either radically transformed 7 years ago into a truly monumental force that senselessly and without objection follows the direction of whatever political appointee is at their reins regardless of law, or Monica Goodling was lying through her teeth.

This will be handled by pointing to the new DoJ policy of only allowing a few WH personnel to talk to a few DoJ personnel without the direct contact to every prosecutor (as was the case 'after 9/11' and 'under Gonzalez').

The WH and DoJ will make mention of how the problem is fixed. The prosecutors will not pursue the claims, stating lack of evidence. Republican cheerleaders will point to the policy change and say it was fixed. Democratic cheerleaders will snarl. Republican moderates will feel slightly more uneasy about the Bush regime. Democratic moderates will take it as just another thing the morons in Congress won't fix. The other 75% of the country won't pay any farking attention.

DarnoKonrad: No. Doesn't surprise me. But I don't buy that super-majority stuff either. Congress should be rigorously investigating this stuff, and if people don't appear, then throw them in jail.

Congres is, in fact, investigating this.

but part of the problem with investigating the GOP or Bush is that everything suddenly becomes "states secrets" or "executive privilege". This matter would seem to avoid that, however.

We'll see.

fosborb: The thousands and thousands of bureaucrats who operate the day to day workings of our Executive branch either radically transformed 7 years ago into a truly monumental force that senselessly and without objection follows the direction of whatever political appointee is at their reins regardless of law, or Monica Goodling was lying through her teeth.

Given the testimony by more than just Monica Goodling that persons that didn't follow administration 'agenda' beyond just work goals were booted, and pressure was put on non-political appointees and through hiring practices, I'm going to go ahead and say (C) Somewhere in between, with a leaning towards the radical transformation.

quequeeg: HotWingConspiracy: Execute all of them. Let's have a mini-revolution with beer and wings with extra sauce. In the street.

If you're going to summon trolls with that sort of thinking, you might as well throw a party while you're at it.

Seriously though, what would politics be if not for the shenanigans, the police, and the promise of civility broken by subtle forms of oppression.

um, productive?

Nestea Plunge: HappyDaddy: Nestea Plunge: I think the German Nazi Party was only slightly more law abiding than the criminal Bush Regime.

So, how many unsuccessful casts do you make before you let your lures dry?

I'm just sayin' man. How can you even defend this shiat after your ilk screamed themselves blue during the Clinton years?

I'm beginning to believe you guys prefer a monarch or dictator.

I think that's it. I might be wrong, but the Nazi's at least wrote laws "legalizing" what they were doing. The Bush administration seems to just ignore laws, and then if you point that fact out, then you're some kind of terrorist collaborator.