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(Boston Phoenix) Interesting In his speech on Mormonism, Mitt Romney said his father marched with Martin Luther King, Jr. Turns out MLK wasn't the only one who had a dream   (thephoenix.com) divider line 142
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Spontaneous Defenstration 2007-12-20 01:20:17 AM  
Nice headline, +1 subby.

 
AirForceVet [TotalFark] 2007-12-20 01:26:58 AM  
If you repeat a lie long enough, people begin to accept it must be true.

/Also +1 to Submitter.

 
JohnnyC 2007-12-20 01:54:38 AM  
Afternoon_Delight: Blah, blah, blah...

Haha... whats the matter? Your corn flakes tasting a bit off?

 
monty666 [TotalFark] 2007-12-20 02:21:50 AM  
That's Martin King, the Luthier. He made guitars, and protested about pantsuits on adult females. Yeah, everyone thought he was nuts.

 
433 [TotalFark] 2007-12-20 03:48:56 AM  
Well, he MEANT to march, but he went back home to get his raincoat because he'd seen how they'd been going, and by that time he was late.

What a horrible way to pander. And worse, it doesn't mean anything. Who cares what your father did, Mitt? What have YOU done, and what are you GOING to do?

I also hate it when people get self-righteous over a cause and sing "We Shall Overcome," or draw a comparison to Rosa Parks.

 
steelpeg [TotalFark] 2007-12-20 04:49:08 AM  
433: Who cares what your father did, Mitt? What have YOU done, and what are you GOING to do?
You know, I lean Republican (hold the stoning) and I will NOT even consider voting for this guy. He gives great answers like:

On Taxes: "When I'm elected, I will look at the tax structure and do something about it."
On Immigration: "I have strong convictions on immigration reform. When I'm elected, we'll look at the issue and determine the best answer to this difficult question."
On the sky being green or blue: "The sky clearly has definition, and it has become obvious over the years what that definition is. The grass is nice too, though, isn't it?"

/Actually reminds me of Bill Clinton with his flip-flop safety talk.

 
Snocones 2007-12-20 05:38:08 AM  
I've never understood why politicians lie about trivial facts. They act like people will take their word and not research it. I'm sure their opponents pay people to research every claim that someone makes. I just don't get it.

 
21-7-b 2007-12-20 05:40:12 AM  
i walked with mlk on the moon

/really getting a kick, etc

 
kidsizedcoffin 2007-12-20 05:42:25 AM  
img444.imageshack.us

Let me tell you about some other people who had a dream, and marched along side men like MLK.

 
Krom [recently expired TotalFark] 2007-12-20 05:44:32 AM  
The details of my life are quite inconsequential... very well, where do I begin? My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. My mother was a fifteen year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet. My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. My childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When I was insolent I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds- pretty standard really. At the age of twelve I received my first scribe. At the age of fourteen a Zoroastrian named Vilma ritualistically shaved my testicles. There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it's breathtaking- I highly suggest you try it.

 
hudef 2007-12-20 05:45:04 AM  
www.salamandersociety.com

 
Hardy-r-r 2007-12-20 05:53:21 AM  
As a citizen of Massachusetts I beg you please do not vote for Romney.

 
Krom [recently expired TotalFark] 2007-12-20 05:53:59 AM  
Hardy-r-r: As a citizen of Massachusetts I beg you please do not vote for Romney.

I'm voting for Kang!

 
kidsizedcoffin 2007-12-20 05:56:34 AM  
Krom: Hardy-r-r: As a citizen of Massachusetts I beg you please do not vote for Romney.

I'm voting for Kang!


Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.

 
Atillathepun [TotalFark] 2007-12-20 05:57:41 AM  
Not to defend Mitt, but maybe his father lied to him?

 
Opiate of the Lasses 2007-12-20 05:57:56 AM  
433: Well, he MEANT to march, but he went back home to get his raincoat because he'd seen how they'd been going, and by that time he was late.

nicely done

 
kidsizedcoffin 2007-12-20 05:58:34 AM  
Atillathepun: Not to defend Mitt, but maybe his father lied to him?

So good Father Vader wasn't Luke's father?

 
imauniter 2007-12-20 05:59:34 AM  
I thought Tim was going to slap him across the face with that flip flop on MTP.

Republicans I know all say they have no good choice this election.
I agree.

 
21-7-b 2007-12-20 05:59:44 AM  
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Desterion 2007-12-20 06:02:31 AM  
So Romney's the one terrifying the left now that they're finished with Huckabee?

 
biglot 2007-12-20 06:03:43 AM  

 
21-7-b 2007-12-20 06:11:14 AM  
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radioman_ 2007-12-20 06:14:00 AM  
My favorite part about Mormonism, other than the batshiat insane archaeology, is how Joseph Smith kept finding golden plates that then disappeared. We can't have a man who buys this crap running the country. We'll probably get someone who believes in a magic Hebrew nailed to a stick, but at least that's a mainsteam delusion. Mormonism is unacceptable weirdness, a step below $cientology.

 
suraimu 2007-12-20 06:20:08 AM  
I'm working on an open letter and it goes like this. Guess what, Martin Luther King, I had a farkin' dream, too! I had a dream that I was in my living room. It wasn't my living room but it was, like, playing my living room in the dream. And I walked through to the backyard and there's a pool and as I'm diving in, there's a shark coming up from the water... with braces! So maybe you're not so farking special! Martin Loser King!

 
yarnothuntin 2007-12-20 06:20:44 AM  
Personally, I've always admired Malcom X more than MLK.

 
kidsizedcoffin 2007-12-20 06:24:42 AM  
yarnothuntin: Personally, I've always admired Malcom X more than MLK.

Gitmo would like to have a polite conversation with you about that.

 
shirtsbyeric 2007-12-20 06:27:27 AM  
He said he marched for him not with him. Don't believe the phoenix it a free rag. Only picked up for the hooker ads.

 
thenateman 2007-12-20 06:35:53 AM  
FTFA: Asked about the specifics of George Romney's march with MLK, Mitt Romney's campaign told the Phoenix that it took place in Grosse Pointe, Michigan.

Looks like Romney fired a Grosse Pointe Blank !!

Anyway, the argument is that King never marched in Grosse Pointe, which opens three possibilities.

1) Pops marched with King somewhere other than Grosse Pointe.
2) Pops mis-represented himself to Mitt. Mitt believed his father and chose to re-tell this family narrative from which he apparently derives great pride.
3) Mitt knows Pops never marched with King, and intentionally fabricated the story without even checking to see if King even marched in Grosse Pointe.

The answer is obviously 1 or 2, as 3 makes no sense. #1 is un-verifiable since all parties are now dead. So I'm guessing the answer is #2 -- and Romney's learning the unfortunate lesson that parents lie and aren't as great as you think they are.

 
kidsizedcoffin 2007-12-20 06:37:45 AM  
fred and steve's steakhouse: (CNSNews.com) - A radio ad sponsored by the National Black Republican Association (NBRA), a grassroots activist group, not only touts Martin Luther King, Jr. as a Republican but also states that "Democrats passed those black codes and Jim Crow laws. Democrats started the KKK," and "Democrats fought all civil rights legislation from the 1860s to the 1960s."

But don't let that stop you folks for voting for Al Sharpton...Write him in. SHARPTON 08!


Thank god that our definition of republicans hasn't changed since the time of Antietam.

 
schrodinger 2007-12-20 06:45:31 AM  
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yarnothuntin 2007-12-20 06:47:38 AM  
kidsizedcoffin: fred and steve's steakhouse: (CNSNews.com) - A radio ad sponsored by the National Black Republican Association (NBRA), a grassroots activist group, not only touts Martin Luther King, Jr. as a Republican but also states that "Democrats passed those black codes and Jim Crow laws. Democrats started the KKK," and "Democrats fought all civil rights legislation from the 1860s to the 1960s."

But don't let that stop you folks for voting for Al Sharpton...Write him in. SHARPTON 08!

Thank god that our definition of republicans hasn't changed since the time of Antietam.


During the 60's civil rights movements Southern democrats were the biggest opposition. In fact the KKK was mostly Democrats. J.F. Kennedy himself voted AGAINST the Civil Rights Act of 1957. I think the whole Republicans "hate" blacks attitude realy took shape when Reagan begain cutting welfare, an attitude promoted by- Democrats. Many Blsck conservatives attest to the notion of political manipulation by the liberal left for promoting a stagnant welfare state.

but hey, who needs history when you've got revisionists?

 
planes 2007-12-20 06:48:02 AM  
hudef: Jesus, those Mormon guys must be hung like stallions, looking at that underwear photo. A regular Norwegian guy like me could store a change of clothes in that pouch.

 
kidsizedcoffin 2007-12-20 06:50:05 AM  
yarnothuntin: kidsizedcoffin: fred and steve's steakhouse: (CNSNews.com) - A radio ad sponsored by the National Black Republican Association (NBRA), a grassroots activist group, not only touts Martin Luther King, Jr. as a Republican but also states that "Democrats passed those black codes and Jim Crow laws. Democrats started the KKK," and "Democrats fought all civil rights legislation from the 1860s to the 1960s."

But don't let that stop you folks for voting for Al Sharpton...Write him in. SHARPTON 08!

Thank god that our definition of republicans hasn't changed since the time of Antietam.

During the 60's civil rights movements Southern democrats were the biggest opposition. In fact the KKK was mostly Democrats. J.F. Kennedy himself voted AGAINST the Civil Rights Act of 1957. I think the whole Republicans "hate" blacks attitude realy took shape when Reagan begain cutting welfare, an attitude promoted by- Democrats. Many Blsck conservatives attest to the notion of political manipulation by the liberal left for promoting a stagnant welfare state.

but hey, who needs history when you've got revisionists?


I agree, I was thinking more of civil war republicans vs modern republicans, but you have a point.

 
acid704 2007-12-20 06:52:21 AM  
Mormonism? I hope there's a cure for it.

 
hudef 2007-12-20 06:53:22 AM  
www.dudehisattva.com

 
Treize26 2007-12-20 06:53:36 AM  
planes: Jesus, those Mormon guys must be hung like stallions, looking at that underwear photo. A regular Norwegian guy like me could store a change of clothes in that pouch.

Your post made me grin.

 
yarnothuntin 2007-12-20 06:58:55 AM  
kidsizedcoffin
I agree, I was thinking more of civil war republicans vs modern republicans, but you have a point.

Ah, gotchya.

Grandpa was a carpenter
He built houses stores and banks
Chain smoked Camel cigarettes
And hammered nails in planks
He was level on the level
And shaved even every door
And voted for Eisenhower
'Cause Lincoln won the war.

 
Phoenix_M 2007-12-20 06:59:00 AM  
fred and steve's steakhouse: (CNSNews.com) - A radio ad sponsored by the National Black Republican Association (NBRA), a grassroots activist group, not only touts Martin Luther King, Jr. as a Republican but also states that "Democrats passed those black codes and Jim Crow laws. Democrats started the KKK," and "Democrats fought all civil rights legislation from the 1860s to the 1960s."

But don't let that stop you folks for voting for Al Sharpton...Write him in. SHARPTON 08!


Well they're right, try reading a history book.

 
hudef 2007-12-20 07:00:09 AM  
Mitt's dad holds the golden that later got losted.

www.judaicaheaven.com

 
21-7-b 2007-12-20 07:00:22 AM  
yarnothuntin

but hey, who needs history when you've got revisionists?

you seem like something of a revisionist yourself, if you don't mind me saying so. roosevelt and the democratic leadership were helping african americans far mpre than republicans from back in the 1930s - despite opposition. it took the racist rednecks a few decades to jump to the gop - because they were too stupid to realize what was happening - but when, during the 1960s, the gop actively went after these disaffected, racists, they found the modern gop base

 
kidsizedcoffin 2007-12-20 07:06:12 AM  
21-7-b: yarnothuntin

but hey, who needs history when you've got revisionists?

you seem like something of a revisionist yourself, if you don't mind me saying so. roosevelt and the democratic leadership were helping african americans far mpre than republicans from back in the 1930s - despite opposition. it took the racist rednecks a few decades to jump to the gop - because they were too stupid to realize what was happening - but when, during the 1960s, the gop actively went after these disaffected, racists, they found the modern gop base


And rednecks were the pro-union workers in the appalachians who were targeted by the pro-corporate folks.

 
phillydrifter 2007-12-20 07:08:15 AM  
schrodinger, wow, just...wow. Instead of distilling hate against everyone you don't like, why don't you promote all the good things your candidate has done?

/and the monkey flings the poo

 
yarnothuntin 2007-12-20 07:11:58 AM  
Roosevelt- wasn't he the president who sent 120,000 Japanese americans into internment camps, 10 million american solders (60% conscripted) and 50 billion dollars to war against a country who did not attack us claiming defeating them was a higher importanct than defeating the country who did?

/flame on

it's a luxury because all our hero's are bastards
it's a luxury because all our hero's are theives

 
kidsizedcoffin 2007-12-20 07:16:18 AM  
yarnothuntin:
it's a luxury because all our hero's are bastards
it's a luxury because all our hero's are theives


it's a luxory because all your base belong to us


 
21-7-b 2007-12-20 07:17:19 AM  
yarnothuntin

do you really want to argue that american involvement in ww2 was a bad idea?

/please do :)

 
Steve Zodiac 2007-12-20 07:17:31 AM  
Snocones: I've never understood why politicians lie about trivial facts. They act like people will take their word and not research it. I'm sure their opponents pay people to research every claim that someone makes. I just don't get it.

Because it works. People hear what they want to hear. If a politician says something that fits with what you believe, you're not likely to check if it is true even if it is now easy to do so. If a "news" outlet has any sort of fact checking, it's done almost as a filler in-between major stories. No big headlines, or top of the program time spots. The only sites which highlight factual errors are the screamer sites which mix in bad news/factual errors about those they don't like in with spreading favorable lies about those they do.

/The news was never non-biased.
// "Yellow Journalism"

 
Tophersky 2007-12-20 07:21:03 AM  
I broke wind standing next to MLK in an elevator.

 
yarnothuntin 2007-12-20 07:21:54 AM  
21-7-b: yarnothuntin

do you really want to argue that american involvement in ww2 was a bad idea?

/please do :)


Not necessarily, but I think you get my point. Also what do you mean by Roosevelt's programs? Were you talking about New Deal stuff?

 
brocas_aphasic 2007-12-20 07:22:34 AM  
hudef: Mitt's dad holds the golden that later got losted.

Why did you post Moses with The Ten Commandments?

radioman_: My favorite part about Mormonism, other than the batshiat insane archaeology, is how Joseph Smith kept finding golden plates that then disappeared. We can't have a man who buys this crap running the country. We'll probably get someone who believes in a magic Hebrew nailed to a stick, but at least that's a mainsteam delusion. Mormonism is unacceptable weirdness, a step below $cientology.

Joseph didn't keep saying he lost the golden plates and then found them. They were taken up to heaven. Sheesh.

/No I'm not defending Joseph Smith (The Urim and Thummim help it pop.)
//Just can't stand when people claim to be experts on Mormon theology.
///2nd Mormon flame thread in 24 hours!
////Slashies: The New God!!!!

 
21-7-b 2007-12-20 07:23:49 AM  
yarnothuntin

i don't get your point at all.

 
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