I hated Cinderella, so to me, no.

ummm, i dunno. they were really good both times i saw them.

opening for bon jovi on slippery tour
with a bunch of similar bands on the "i cant remember the name of the" tour

C) Neither

Sunny snorts what?

I thought Cinderella rocked when I was in fifth grade.

Not longer after, I hit junior high and realized how bad my musical taste was in fifth grade.

People biatch that MTV no longer plays videos, but they are to blame for the purchase of my Long Cold Winter cassette. Warrant, too. And Poison. And a host of other shameful garbage.

Hindsight.

They were good live, and I'm amazed they went so far with such an ugly ass singer.

/still like hair metal

ah yeah- they still tour, too

I despise hair metal, but I saw them in 1985 at the old Empire rock room in Philly and they were actually really good. Their style was more ACDC-ish then.

It's a paradox: BOTH ARE FALSE.

Band. That's all.

Not even the best hair

If all elements of a set are false, that's called a contradiction.

As in "It is a contradiction to say Cinderella is the greatest band."

Or something like that.

Kinda tired of apologizing for liking this stuff growing up. Might not hold up well compared to some other classic stuff but it was good stuff at the time and listening to it now, it still sounds good. For all the people who claim to have not been into the hair metal/butt rock scene back then there sure were an awful lot of sold out concerts and impressive record sales that kept that genre around for a good 10 years or so.

Hair metal was good, empty, unpretentious fun. Cinderella was a great guilty pleasure. Night Songs was the second best cut-rate AC/DC wannabe album since Pyromania.

Then they made the mistake of trying to prove to the world they were "real musicians," and put out that boring, schlocky, pseudo-blues bore, Long Cold Winter.

Nirvana didn't kill hair metal. Hair metal's death was a suicide.

WOOOOO!!!

*pumps fist and bangs head*



*smooths the long hair back where it should be*

I'm sure they put on a good live show, but I could never stand Tom Kiefer's voice. Like nails on a chalkboard.

Very good band. Not great, however.

And I LOVE me some hair metal.

Hair metal makes me glad I was born in the late 80's, and didn't have to suffer through it. Although at the same time, I missed some good stuff that came out of the times...

But, still. Hair metal is horrible.

I saw them a few times in concert back in the day, they always put on fun shows.

And the amount of quality chicks that would attend those concerts just blows away anything happening nowadays.

I still can't understand how someone can sing like that night after night and not pop a vein in their head.

Cinderella was maybe the most talented of the hair metal bands, but that's like calling someone the most moral of the child molesters.

Among the greatest bands...
First band I ever saw live - on the same tour as dugitman
They were a blues rock band with a hair metal look. Guns-N-Roses being the obvious exception, Cinderella may have been the best band of that era (and they're still good...)

/I need a shot of gasoline

If the Music Machine wasn't stupid enough to label 90% of glam rock as metal in the 80's, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Cinderella was a very, very good rock band.

Dimebag: C) Neither

That was the first thing that popped in my head.

skeeterjennings: Cinderella was maybe the most talented of the hair metal bands, but that's like calling someone the most moral of the child molesters.

*facepalm* seriously, people need to learn how to stop being pretentious jerk offs about rock.

Just another marginally talented band relegated to "Remember..." by actually talented bands like Pearl Jam, Nirvana, and Alice in Chains.

You know, I used to hate these guys. I got free tickets to see them with Winger and Bullet Boys back in the day, and brought the other guitar player in my band at the time. We were into SLAYER, DRI, Crumbsuckers, Kreator-type stuff, and thought it'd be good for a laugh. It was.
Listening to FM "rock" radio these days makes me long for the days of hair metal, though. Actual songs, written and played by actual humans. Novel concept.
/Met Reb Beach. Coolest guy in rock this side of Jeff Hanneman.
//How many names did I just drop?
///Call the maid.

Not being pretentious, just a lifelong metalhead who hates that all of that late 80s garbage was marketed as "metal".
Saw Cinderalla a couple of times back then at festival shows, and they were maybe the best of the crap bands I saw in the 80's because there was an actual good band on the same bill.
But the best crap is still crap.

I don't know about the link, but the headline's good for a laugh.

Mediocre.

At best.

Um, subby, sweetie...THIS is the greatest band!


Ya douchebag!!

That's not a codpiece, that's a d!ldo.
/Dr. Rockso would like a word with you.

I don't mind glam rock, but man, I can't watch the videos. Cinderella was pretty good.

Great live. Albums sucked.

meh

i liked em..but like most bands of the era, when they saw the great flannel storm from the northwest, got serious, made a great album,(heartbreak station, reviewed by Rolling Stone as an album not supposed to be made by platinum poodle heads,)and the fans went huh??
but in CInderella's defense,,,the long cold winter tour was one of the best live shows i'd ever seen..and i have seen Soundgarden, u2, ozzy and many more.

I think it was their third album that was much more roots rock oriented and it was rather masterful songwriting and playing.

Great band, Judas Priest and Iron Maiden prevent them from being the greatest.

Very talented band, Tom Kieffer can pretty much play any instrument and does in concert. They are awesome live (their CD's rock also). They are also nice to me when they could have had security kick me out for sneaking back stage. Instead they let me hang out and B.S. with them.

Can't comprehend why anyone dislikes this genre of music. Hard and guitar driven yet very melodic. I guess it is like the FARK beer snobs where a beer isn't good unless it is so bitter and skunky it is almost undrinkable. That or they like it but are too insecure to admit it. I guess music isn't any good to these people unless it lacks melody and sounds like crap or just wierd. I pity those people, their loss but I guess they are bliss in their ignorance.

heavymetal: Can't comprehend why anyone dislikes this genre of music. Hard and guitar driven yet very melodic. I guess it is like the FARK beer snobs where a beer isn't good unless it is so bitter and skunky it is almost undrinkable. That or they like it but are too insecure to admit it. I guess music isn't any good to these people unless it lacks melody and sounds like crap or just wierd. I pity those people, their loss but I guess they are bliss in their ignorance.

I get where you're coming from, because it's hard for me to understand why someone might not like the music I like. I thought about what you wrote, and all I can say is that I don't like hair metal because it's just not really what I'm looking for. It just doesn't do it for me. It's always been a turnoff somehow.

I wish I had a better explanation, but music and the feelings it evokes are so personal and so difficult to define. You listen to hair metal and you get that feeling - you know the one, makes you feel great, makes you want it over and over. I guess I just get my fix from other patterns of sound. Shrug. Hope that gives you at least one explanation that isn't arrogant or dishonest.

But Harv wasn't there.

Dimebag: C) Neither

Agreed.

Ophelia's Snorkel: heavymetal: Can't comprehend why anyone dislikes this genre of music. Hard and guitar driven yet very melodic. I guess it is like the FARK beer snobs where a beer isn't good unless it is so bitter and skunky it is almost undrinkable. That or they like it but are too insecure to admit it. I guess music isn't any good to these people unless it lacks melody and sounds like crap or just wierd. I pity those people, their loss but I guess they are bliss in their ignorance.

I get where you're coming from, because it's hard for me to understand why someone might not like the music I like. I thought about what you wrote, and all I can say is that I don't like hair metal because it's just not really what I'm looking for. It just doesn't do it for me. It's always been a turnoff somehow.

I wish I had a better explanation, but music and the feelings it evokes are so personal and so difficult to define. You listen to hair metal and you get that feeling - you know the one, makes you feel great, makes you want it over and over. I guess I just get my fix from other patterns of sound. Shrug. Hope that gives you at least one explanation that isn't arrogant or dishonest.

I hear you and I was probably a little bit harsh in this statement: I guess it is like the FARK beer snobs where a beer isn't good unless it is so bitter and skunky it is almost undrinkable. That or they like it but are too insecure to admit it. I guess music isn't any good to these people unless it lacks melody and sounds like crap or just wierd.

It is not that I don't understand why people don't like the music I like, that is understandable. If it is not your thing fine. I just don't understand the disrespect it gets as a musical genre and the musicians involved getting dismissed as talentless hacks. Not just on FARK (hell that is one of the things FARK is about) but with the general mainstream music media in general.

I can understand if it isn't someone's cup of tea, I just can't understand the passionate hatred that some people have towards it. That era has put out some really good and great guitar driven rock sandex and hairspray or not.

heavymetal
I agree - why would someone expend so much energy hating any one type of music? They ought to just go and listen to what they like and be happy. Yeah, I would be grateful if I never had to hear a modern country song again (not the great old stuff like Cash or Cline), but to becom violently angry and horribly insulting? That's just not something a sane person does. You'd think the genre had raped their sister or something.

\m/

Well constructed, well played bluesy hard rock. Somewhat cheesy lyrics, but this is not exactly unheard of in rock music. The whole image thing of the 80s is unfortunate but other than that...nice guitar, rocking beat, fun high-energy music. How much more do you expect from a rock band?

There are a snobby few here on Fark who claim to hate every thing that ever enjoyed any measure of popular success, particularly 80's hair bands. The only good music is made by singers you never heard of, singing at open mike nites at 3AM while their drowsy audience wonders why the hell they haven't been "discovered" yet. Then as soon as they are popular, they disparage the singer/band for having sold out.

Get over yourselves. If you don't like it, fine. But I'd wager most of the 30+ year olds on fark had at least one Cinderella, Poison, Ratt, Judas Priest, etc in their tape collection back in the day. Don't spoil my trip down memory lane with trying to be cooler than you really are.

Now STFU and GBTW and while you're at it, get the hell off my lawn.

Ugh, this whole genre was awful. I was in college in the late 80s, so being a college student I had plenty of time to listen to music and my roomates always had mtv on. We were really into GnR's 1st album, that was excellent big-attitude hard rock. Then came all those cookie-cutter nancy boys like Poison and Warrant and Cinderella and Trixter and god knows how many others. To us they were all heavily watered-down versions of GnR - the 'power ballads' were excruciating. All the make up and frizzed out hair and stuff was teh ghey. No one played it in the bars or at parties.

I'm over it now: I'd wager most of the 30+ year olds on fark had at least one Cinderella, Poison, Ratt, Judas Priest, etc in their tape collection back in the day.

I didn't. I certainly don't begrudge your enjoyment of this stuff but what gets to me is people who try to force it on you. I'm not going to force my taste in music on you so stop telling me I'll love Cinderella if only I'd run out and listen to the such-and-such album. And I didn't come in here to rag on your taste in music, I just stopped by to enjoy the snark attacks that happen in these threads.

/please continue

I was more of a David Lee Roth fan in that era - I mean, Greg Bissonette, Billy Sheehan and Steve Vai in the same band? That's just crazy.

I never liked this guy's vocals. He sounded like a parody of other rock singers. Too elmo-ish.

I was in high school and almost everyone was into "hair metal" back then because, really, its was all there was. We like it just like the teens now are into groups like Good Charlotte and what I call the "new" boy bands. They all same the same to me but I don't get all hostile, anger, insulting and uppity about it.

Each age has its own music..love it or hate it.

I liked:
Cinderella
Britney Fox
Bon Jovi
Kingdom Come
Quiet Riot
Poison
Ratt
Winger
Tesla
Skid Row
Bullet Boys (they absolutely SUCKED in concert)
Trixster
Warrant
Great White
Slaughter
Firehouse
Whitesnake
White Lion
Scorpions
Vixen
Def Leppard
Fater Pussycats
Motley Crue

WHOOO HOOOOO

earthbound misfit

If I didn't know my wife hates the computer, I'd guess you were her. Thankfully she grew out of that phase.

I saw them at the Station Nightclub. Yep, the one the Great White burnt down.