you had me up until you said "christ" mike.

i thought this was a government founded for the people, by the people, and all of that. i didn't think jesus was an american citizen.

take this nation back for Christ"

That'll be the day I take this nation back for Smith and Wesson.

Mike Huckabee: "Government knows it does not have the answer, but it's arrogant and acts as though it does. I hope we answer the alarm clock and take this nation back for to the time of Christ"

is what he really meant.

If Jesus came back and was found in the U.S., they'd probably treat him like a terrorist. Middle Eastern, no U.S. citizenship, no passport or proof of entry into the U.S. Yeah, definitely a terrorist suspect.

gundamtsubasa: Middle Eastern, no U.S. citizenship, no passport or proof of entry into the U.S. Yeah, definitely a terrorist suspect.

Don't forget the long hair. Hippies are a major threat.

He needs to tone down the God stuff and he'll get elected. Right now he's Elvis Presley!!

gundamtsubasa: If Jesus came back and was found in the U.S., they'd probably treat him like a terrorist. Middle Eastern, no U.S. citizenship, no passport or proof of entry into the U.S. Yeah, definitely a terrorist suspect.

No, but you see, Jesus was a Jew from Israel. The government would set him up a position in AIPAC where he'd send American soldiers to die for Israel. I read a book about it.

Um, no thanks.

I think I may have just found someone who makes Hilary Clinton "the lesser of two evils." And that's pretty amazing, coming from me.

/Do not want
//This election is already a nightmare.

The Reclaim America movement revealed. Do not want.

This election is already a nightmare.

There's always Kucinich. What I find funny about him is that people make fun of him for seeing a UFO. Of course it was a UFO. It was unidentified and flying. These same people act like Huckabee is sane even though he's perpetually talking about an invisible man in the sky who is ostensibly his master. Which is more insane?

flaEsq: The Reclaim America movement revealed. Do not wan

These people scare me, truly and deeply.

I need to get myself sterilized before these nutjobs get any sort of power. Hopefully, early next year. I'll add "current political climate" to the reasons when I see the new doctor I've found.

7of7: There's always Kucinich.

I just read up a bit on him; there is little to balk at, honestly.

So what if he says he saw a UFO? I'd rather that ANY day that someone who believes he needs to "reclaim the United States..." for a dead guy from ancient times.

Also:

FTA:

"'I went to Vacation Bible School for all the wrong reasons -- I was told they'd give me all the cookies I could eat and all the Kool-Aid I could drink."

Kool-Aid? Really?

/I thought only the big, bad liberals drank that stuff.

serpent_sky: 7of7: There's always Kucinich.

I just read up a bit on him; there is little to balk at, honestly.

So what if he says he saw a UFO? I'd rather that ANY day that someone who believes he needs to "reclaim the United States..." for a dead guy from ancient times.

I want Ron Paul as Veep. He could run around slapping everyone in the face with the pocket Constitution. You know, just to remind folks.

Doggie McNugget: No, but you see, Jesus was a Jew from Israel. The government would set him up a position in AIPAC where he'd send American soldiers to die for Israel. I read a book about it

No way. I can't honestly expect people in our government be able to recognize Aramaic or Biblical Hebrew from Modern Hebrew. Bearded Middle Eastern guy in robes speaking in a funny language on U.S. soil illegally? He'd be disappeared before you can say "Guantanamo."

As for Huckabee, A couple of weeks ago, I mentioned to someone that I thought that Huckabee was a closeted Dominionist. Apparently he's out now. Man, I hate it when I'm right.

GaryPDX:

I want Ron Paul as Veep. He could run around slapping everyone in the face with the pocket Constitution. You know, just to remind folks.

But it's just a piece of paper! Would that hurt them?

serpent_sky

I need to get myself sterilized before these nutjobs get any sort of power. Hopefully, early next year. I'll add "current political climate" to the reasons when I see the new doctor I've found.

Wouldn't the more stalwart (for lack of a better word) path be to have as many children as you could responsibly support and raise them all to think for themselves and take personal responsibility for their actions in an attempt to stave off the tides of sheep who use their belief in invisible men in the sky and the equivalent of 2000 year old /b/ posts as an excuse to threadshiat the real world?

/only half-joking

serpent_sky: I need to get myself sterilized before these nutjobs get any sort of power. Hopefully, early next year. I'll add "current political climate" to the reasons when I see the new doctor I've found.

You may be surprised to learn that they are or were in positions of real and serious power. Katherine Harris was one of them. Or you may not be surprised.

What? No tag? Blasphemy!

 
 
 

/just kidding, in case you couldn't tell

I thought it was a hero tag on the links page. It caused me to throw up in my mouth a little. I'd have gone for asinine, dumbass, stupid or sad.

For Christ? He wasn't even American!

take this nation back for Christ

From whom? And when did Christ have this nation and when did he lose it?

Mike Huckabee: "Government knows it does not have the answer, but it's arrogant and acts as though it does. I hope we answer the alarm clock and take this nation back for Christ"

Really? I really don't understand what Christians are expecting if the US "returned" to Christ. Will corruption automatically cease? WiDoes forcing kids to say prayers automatically make them subservient and unwillful? Will making abortions illegal automatically make everyone fit parents?

/goes back to reading The Handmaid's Tale...

Two Dogs Farking: What? No Hero tag? Blasphemy!

I was overruled.

ftfa: Huckabee and Mitt Romney share most of the same ethical values; however, Romney belongs to a cult. Will the voters realize the difference?

what difference?

"'Government knows it does not have the answer, but it's arrogant and acts as though it does. Church does have the answer but will cowardly deny that it does and wonder when the world will be changed.

I'd rather you cut spending, lower taxes, admit we've failed in the drug war, find a solution to the middle east crisis and shred the patriot act. While I'm dreaming, I'd also like santa to biatch slap RIAA, the CIA, the NSA and the DEA. Let's also rewrite copyright laws, repeal the entire DMCA, and make 'hate' crime legislation unconstitutional.

Let Christ worry about souls. I'm more worried about the state of the economy.

If it is Hackabee verses Clinton I don't know who I will vote for but as FSM is my witness it will not be either of them.

Anyone who volunteers to publicly talk about their religious persuasion is unfit to hold elected office.

7of7: Which is more insane?

Excellent point.

Weaver95 do you have a newsletter?

curmudge: Weaver95 do you have a newsletter?

I'd like to see Hillary step up to the plate and admit that we've got the entire 'war on drugs' thing wrong. Admit that yes, Bill inhaled (nobody will be surprised. believe me). And push for legalization of cannabis.

Wow. A Republican who respects the constitution even LESS than the current shiat-for-brains president.

Best case for the country: Huckabee just barely gets the Republican nomination after a brutal and venom-filled campaign and national convention. The actual conservatives break away and start their own party, leaving the GOP to the fundie wackjobs.

Meanwhile, Obama easily gets the Democratic nomination and later the White House.

After several election cycles, the new conservative party emerges as a real force in U.S. politics. Not enough to dominate or even stay in a majority for long, but powerful enough to keep the Democrats honest and fiscally responsible.

===========================

I wonder how Huckabee would rationalize taking the oath of office on a bible only to immediately start breaking that oath.

Weaver95 I suspect that she also inhaled and I don't care. I agree about the whole War on Drugs thing, this country has much more important things to deal with than what an adult choses to put in his body. Even if Hillary did as you suggested I still wouldn't vote for her but it would be nice to see one major political figure tell the truth for a change.

JerseyTim: when did he lose it?

When it became "un-PC" to beat homosexuals to death. I am Constitutionally guaranteed that right by the Bible, dernit!

curmudge: Weaver95 I suspect that she also inhaled and I don't care. I agree about the whole War on Drugs thing, this country has much more important things to deal with than what an adult choses to put in his body. Even if Hillary did as you suggested I still wouldn't vote for her but it would be nice to see one major political figure tell the truth for a change.

I'd also like to see a candidate (any candidate) admit that social security is farked. I mean royally farked. The war on poverty and 'great society' legacy programs are gonna kill us in the end. The first step to a cure is admitting we've got a problem.

And really, we've got a LOT of problems. At both the state and federal levels, the legislative branch is abdicating it's authority to the courts and the executive branches. It'd be nice to see someone tell Congress to STFU and GBTW. Take your pick on which issue to start with: drugs, social security, national security, reigning in some of our more out of control corporations...there's something there for all of us.

7of7: take this nation back for Christ"

That'll be the day I take this nation back for Smith and Wesson.

Can I take this nation back for Browning?

/Hi-Power for the win!

Weaver95: I'd like to see Hillary step up to the plate and admit that we've got the entire 'war on drugs' thing wrong.

white women in the suburbs might have smoked before but they don't want it easier for their kids to get 'the dope'. White women also like Obama so she's gonna hold steady on that one because that's her base.

Consider it progress...now we actually have Democrats from normal states (Kuchinich) and Republicans from crazy square states talking about legalization. It will get done when people realize how much money is wasted that can be spent on X.

7of7: There's always Kucinich. What I find funny about him is that people make fun of him for seeing a UFO. Of course it was a UFO. It was unidentified and flying.

I like Dennis. If democrats were true democrats and not just republican lite (and he was 6' tall and a meat eater) he'd be the nominee.

I'd vote for him in the primary but my state is a super tuesday state that could swing the nomination to either Hildog or Obama.

klymen: For Christ? He wasn't even American!

bullshiat. jesus WAS an american, and he drove a hummer with a yellow ribbon magnet on the back!

GaryPDX: I want Ron Paul as Veep. He could run around slapping everyone in the face with the pocket Constitution. You know, just to remind folks.

His ignorance of the constitution is startling.

You could ask him a pretty easy constitutional question like: "What are the positives and negatives of substantive due process rights, and do you believe they exist in the constitution?" and I think you'd be suprised at how trivial his answer is.

The next few weeks will be interesting. One of my coworkers was a journalist in New England a few years back, and was assigned to follow around Gary Bauer during his presidential bid. His political instinct is pretty sharp. He's been predicting that Huckabee would come on strong for a while now, and it's coming to fruition.

His prediction is Huckabee will knock out the rest of the weaker candidates, putting McCain, Thompson, and the single-digit guys out of contention (save Ron Paul, who'll run as long as he can). He'll challenge Romney for the more conservative states, while not affecting Giuliani for the more liberal ones. We may be a couple of weeks away from a bona fide three man race for the GOP.

Also, I have to say, Weaver95, you're one of my favorites in the political discussions here. I agree with you maybe 1/3 of the time, but I never have any inkling when your positions will overlap with mine. Reading your posts has definitely broadened my perspective on politics. Hat's off to you, sir!

Weaver95: Let Christ worry about souls. I'm more worried about the state of the economy.

a thousand times this.

The Fascism is strong with this one.

FriarTuck
>>GaryPDX: I want Ron Paul as Veep. He could run around slapping everyone in the face with the pocket Constitution. You know, just to remind folks.

His ignorance of the constitution is startling.

You could ask him a pretty easy constitutional question like: "What are the positives and negatives of substantive due process rights, and do you believe they exist in the constitution?" and I think you'd be suprised at how trivial his answer is.

Compared to, say, the candidate actually mentioned in the headline?

Has anyone ever asked him, flat-out, what he would do for [or about?] the non-Christian populations in the United States and their various concerns about freedom from religion/religious persecution for their own faiths?

Weaver95: I'd also like to see a candidate (any candidate) admit that social security is farked. I mean royally farked. The war on poverty and 'great society' legacy programs are gonna kill us in the end. The first step to a cure is admitting we've got a problem.

A society is only as successful as its worst-off members.

Shaggy_C: A society is only as successful as its worst-off members.

So why are we shooting everyone in the foot just as they start the race?

Weaver95: So why are we shooting everyone in the foot just as they start the race?

I don't see how Social Security and the War on Poverty amount to 'shooting people in the foot as they start the race'. It's more like giving everyone a shot of HGH before the race.

Weaver95: Shaggy_C: A society is only as successful as its worst-off members.

So why are we shooting everyone in the foot just as they start the race?

I've often wondered that concerning the fabulous student loan system we have going in this country....

serpent_sky: I've often wondered that concerning the fabulous student loan system we have going in this country....

So instead of low-interest guaranteed loans from the government, you would propose that we start paying for college for every single person who wants to go?

Shaggy_C: serpent_sky: I've often wondered that concerning the fabulous student loan system we have going in this country....

So instead of low-interest guaranteed loans from the government, you would propose that we start paying for college for every single person who wants to go?

I'd stop punishing people for saving for their kids education. I'd make it easier for the kids themselves to make money to put towards that education. And i'd stop punishing kids for their parents income.