Had to look twice at that ipod on the right...something looked fishy.

I'm not an animal rights activist, and even I see that as cruel

/Used to own a beta
//Named him Dean Fisher
///He had an extension and voicemail (and a title) at the office
////We gave his extension to telemarketers

Disco Stu wants his fish shoes back.

How about the constant vibration of the tank due to the sound? Isn't that cruel too? Maybe I missed it in the article. I think this seems silly anyway.

I taught my beta to do simple tricks. I've read of someone teaching one to go through a hoop for food. I got mine to flare at me and follow my finger for food. Every time I walked in the room he would flare up - he was a piggy. His name was Aryan because he was all white.

Unfortunately he one day shamed his family somehow because he committed seppuku by jumping out of a 1.5" open slot on the lid of his tank into our sink. :(

Fark those stupid fish. It is just a fish, it doesn't have emotions, it can't feel anything but rudimentary pain. Blast the hell out of it with Backstreet boys, then light it on fire and throw it in a trash pile and get another stupid fish to torture over and over again!

/doesn't care about animal cruelty
//eating a chicken sandwich right now
///plans on eating a burger later
////had swine for breakfast with dead chicken embryos.
//wearing a leather belt to keep my pants on my fat ass right now!

This goes to show you that the ipod "culture" is a bunch of egotists who think that a brand name makes them cool.

This is just a 3rd party rip-off of Apples earlier failed attempt of a similar product (new window)

I think you are all missing the point here. The fish are not American or British. They don't have souls and can be treated however we like to improve our own lives, however marginally.

spencurai: Fark those stupid fish. It is just a fish, it doesn't have emotions, it can't feel anything but rudimentary pain. Blast the hell out of it with Backstreet boys, then light it on fire and throw it in a trash pile and get another stupid fish to torture over and over again!

/doesn't care about animal cruelty
//eating a chicken sandwich right now
///plans on eating a burger later
////had swine for breakfast with dead chicken embryos.
//wearing a leather belt to keep my pants on my fat ass right now!

Hopefully your diet will kill you before you are able to breed.

I hate to see these poor little guys in those tiny tanks they sell them in - or pet shops that store them in plastic cups. At least give the thing room to swim around, like fishbowl sized or something.

My daughter has one of these fish -- in a good-size goldfish bowl. I can't imagine putting it in something as small (and vibration prone?) as this speaker.

/I don't think animals have rights, but I like animals
//three dogs, two cats, and one fish, oh, and three humans

eqtworld:
Below is what selective breeding can accomplish. (a demonstration of evolution)


Selective breeding is NOT the same as evolution.

10 sec rule applies to pudding too: This goes to show you that the ipod "culture" is a bunch of egotists who think that a brand name makes them cool.

Yet it appears that this device uses a standard audio connector and it not proprietary to the iPod.

At least you thought you had a valid point once upon a time, though.

Helena Handbasket: eqtworld:
Below is what selective breeding can accomplish. (a demonstration of evolution)


Selective breeding is NOT the same as evolution.

Yes, it is. It just involves artificial selection rather than natural selection.

spencurai: Fark those stupid fish. It is just a fish, it doesn't have emotions, it can't feel anything but rudimentary pain. Blast the hell out of it with Backstreet boys, then light it on fire and throw it in a trash pile and get another stupid fish to torture over and over again!

/doesn't care about animal cruelty
//eating a chicken sandwich right now
///plans on eating a burger later
////had swine for breakfast with dead chicken embryos.
//wearing a leather belt to keep my pants on my fat ass right now!

I don't know about you, but this is pretty disgusting even to someone who couldn't give two sh*ts about animal rights groups. The issue here is that you're taking a pet, cramming him into a tiny little container as a home (not just for bringing the little guy back home to his tank), with a relatively ginormous-ass (to him) speaker underneath him, all in the name of making a hip device that mimics the slim profile of the iPod.

it's awsome that their name is "Siamese fighting fish" why do we call them beta's? that is a lame name. "Siamese fighting fish" FTW

They say betas need 2.7 gallons!

No. No they don't. This is like saying you can't buy a pug dog unless you own 10 acres.

eqtworld
That would piss off a beta fish. Poor little guys.

Yeah, but what are they going to do about it?

/despite all my rage...

Apparently that needed more beta testing.

I can has Fisherday?

Helena Handbasket: Selective breeding is NOT the same as evolution.

It does showcase how a species can change over time.

clancifer: Hopefully your diet will kill you before you are able to breed.

Calm down Francis, he's just trolling. It is a fish thread, y'know.

Company is run as a franchise;

CONTACT
Business Sales Manager
Pets Paradise Franchising Pty Ltd
24-26 Wedgewood Road, Hallam VIC 3803
PH: 03 9796 4555 FAX: 03 9796 4545
Email: re­cepti­on­e­sida­ra­pst­epc­omau
Website: www.petsparadise.com.au (new window)

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity." -A.E.

mxwjs: it's awsome that their name is "Siamese fighting fish" why do we call them beta's? that is a lame name. "Siamese fighting fish" FTW

"Betta splendens" is their official name.

good placement of the stupid tag. FTA: A spokesperson for Apple said the company was willing to comment on its own products, but not on accessories made by third parties.

ah, Apples' mantra

Helena Handbasket: eqtworld:
Below is what selective breeding can accomplish. (a demonstration of evolution)


Selective breeding is NOT the same as evolution.

Um, what are you smoking? Just because a breeder does the selecting doesn't mean that certain traits can't be bred into a species over time. It's still selection, just not natural selection.

Helena Handbasket: eqtworld:
Below is what selective breeding can accomplish. (a demonstration of evolution)


Selective breeding is NOT the same as evolution.

Correct. They are two different processes that utilize the same mechanism to achieve the end result.

This isn't cruelty; it's just plain stupid all the way around.

Shoot every involved.

That's terrible. I was always taught to never even tap on a fish's tank, and now they mount it on a speaker? And I'm not sure how big that little iPod tank is but it can't be much bigger then those little dixie cups they keep the bettas in at the pet store. And we all know how happy they look in those little gunky cups.

I had a betta fish who lived for four years. His name was Ziggy Stardust. Great personality. He lived on my computer desk, calmly hanging out and blowing me kisses. He didn't like it if someone else sat at my desk though. He'd get all puffy, start swimming in circles and growling, then his water would start boiling. I wish I had a scanner so I could post his pic.

eqtworld:Read the origin of species, Darwin goes to great lengths to compare selective pidgin breeding to natural selection.

Damn, it sure looked like my AIM client was intelligently designed.

tasteme: ah, Apples' mantra

Would you expect ANY corporation to comment on a third party's products in this context ?
Any good corporate lawyer would recommend "no comment"

sloppyjoes7: They say betas need 2.7 gallons!
No. No they don't. This is like saying you can't buy a pug dog unless you own 10 acres.

Maybe you're right, but the tank is 650 milliliters, which is less than the volume of two 12 ounce cans of soda. To keep a 3" fish in such a small tank is asinine. Shame on anyone who bought one of these.

Supidest "i" product ever?

The iStraw.

Too tiny for any fish, but barely adequate for sea monkeys!

Ten liters for a beta??? Seems a tad excessive.

I can't imagine being perched on top of a speaker as being pleasant though. Unless perhaps your a chick on the David Stern show.

I saw one of these at WalMart months ago... I'm glad to see others thought they were farked up.

Hopefully people will start seeing goldfish bowls in the same light, and they'll be banned too :)

(I like goldfish - look at my name ;) )

Frenchy Fuqua unavailable for comment.

Fark Apple. Fark them and their single mouse button bullshiat. Fark them straight to farking hell.

I've had several bettas. Too bad I lost a few because the fish store workers told me they didn't need heated water. Farkers. Tiny Spock, I miss you. Bettas have lots of personality.

This thing is cruel. Yeah, it is *just* a fish, but there's not even any room for the little guy to turn around in. And then it's going to be forced to listen to whatever music/vibration the idiot who buys this will play as well.

Eqtworld, where did you get those pictures? Linky? We need LolBettas.

/Can we also do something about people who tap the fishtank? Stop doing that!

Slartibartfaster Quote 2007-12-15 06:47:42 PM
Company is run as a franchise;

CONTACT
Business Sales Manager
Pets Paradise Franchising Pty Ltd
24-26 Wedgewood Road, Hallam VIC 3803
PH: 03 9796 4555 FAX: 03 9796 4545
Email: reception(at)petsparadise(dot)com(dot)au
Website: www.petsparadise.com.au (new window)

Thank. I was looking for ordering information.

Fat Dave
/I don't think animals have rights

why not?

Slartibartfaster: Company is run as a franchise;

CONTACT
Business Sales Manager
Pets Paradise Franchising Pty Ltd
24-26 Wedgewood Road, Hallam VIC 3803
PH: 03 9796 4555 FAX: 03 9796 4545
Email: receptionpetsparadisecomau
Website: www.petsparadise.com.au (new window)

I sent them a nice little email...thanks for looking up the info.

Tom: It's an "iPond" speaker. You see, it would be this speaker that you would put a fish in... and you could play different iPod songs on it.
Michael: That's the worst idea I've ever heard in my life, Tom.
Samir: Yes, it is horrible, this idea.

Helena Handbasket: eqtworld:
Below is what selective breeding can accomplish. (a demonstration of evolution)


Selective breeding is NOT the same as evolution.

strictly speaking, yes it is. Selective breeding is an evolutionary process.

what is not occurring here is speciation. Evolution is a process, not a result.

Pathman: Fat Dave
/I don't think animals have rights

why not?

You only have the rights you fight to keep. I haven't seen any animals draft up a constitution or field an army to protect whatever rights they think they have.

I will tell you that a bear has the right to be left alone by me since I am unwilling to challenge it to deprive it of that right.

well, the ipond IS pretty farking stupid

eqtworld: That would piss off a beta fish. Poor little guys.

They are OK in small tanks though. I have seen them shipped in wadded up wet newspaper. They are amazing little fish. They come from rice patties in asia and basically live in mud and puddles with stagnet watter.
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Actually, they END UP in little puddles by accident... it's not really good for them. During the rainy season, they swim on to flooded land to breed, and sometimes don't make it back to the river where they actually live. They have adapted to this, but it's not ideal. They actually have an organ called a labyrinth organ that allows them to breathe air- but they can't survive on it, as it's not as developed as the labyrinth on some "lungfish" The little betta bowls they often put them in are even worse for them- they don't have much open surface area for oxygen transfer, and this iPond thing is worse still- it has NO exposed surface area.

Benjimin_Dover
You only have the rights you fight to keep. I haven't seen any animals draft up a constitution or field an army to protect whatever rights they think they have.
I will tell you that a bear has the right to be left alone by me since I am unwilling to challenge it to deprive it of that right.

this is all kinds of stupid. i hope you're kidding\trolling