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Saborlas [TotalFark] 2007-12-15 11:31:41 AM  
Needs more alliteration, subby.

 
kronicfeld [TotalFark] 2007-12-15 12:03:54 PM  
"To say that autism or bulimia has kidnapped a child suggests that these conditions are part of a criminal element," she said.

Congratulations, you are officially the stupidest motherf*cker on the planet.

 
Snocones 2007-12-15 12:12:38 PM  
Are parents really that stupid? How long before the lawsuits start?

 
DistendedPendulusFrenulum 2007-12-15 12:16:44 PM  
1. It's truly amazing what can be done with autistic kids, as well as kids with other types of disabilities and so forth.

1A. If you can afford it.

2. When I was a kid, everyone who couldn't keep up--even people with polio, were referred to as "retarded." So even though I could read chapter books at age 4, the fact that I couldn't do simple arithmetic meant I was retarded.

In the Good Olden Days that the reactionaries worship with such abject zeal, an autistic kid would have been considered possessed by demons, a simpleton, or perhaps put to hideous tasks that no one else wished to do.

I just don't think these parents are thinking in terms of what could be, what things might be like, and what they once were.

 
Megain [TotalFark] 2007-12-15 12:38:51 PM  

text of the six ads (^pdf):

"We have your son. We will make sure he will no longer be able to care for himself or interact socially as long as he lives... Autism."

"We are in possession of your son. We are making him squirm and fidget until he is a detriment to himself and those around him. Ignore this, and you will pay... ADHD"

"We have your son. We are destroying his ability for social interaction and driving him to a life of complete isolation. It's up to you now... Asperger's Syndrome"

"We have your daughter. We are forcing her to throw up after every meal. It will only get worse... Bulimia"

"We have taken your son. We have imprisoned him in a maze of darkness with no hope of ever getting out. Do nothing and see what happens... Depression"

"We have your daughter. We are forcing her to wash her hands until they are raw, everyday. This is only the beginning... OCD"

 
TheXerox [TotalFark] 2007-12-15 12:51:50 PM  
"We have your son. We are destroying his ability for social interaction and driving him to a life of complete isolation. It's up to you now... Asperger's Syndrome"

I have Asperger's Syndrome, so I'm really getting a kick out of these replies...


Seriously, AS hasn't "destroyed" my ability for social interaction nor has it lead me to a life of complete isolation. It just lead me to learn that I'm wired a bit differently than most everyone else. I gradually figured out social interaction much like how one would learn a foreign language and I put it into practice daily so I can handle basic interactions with people without them wondering what the hell is wrong with me.

Mine is a mild case, YMMV.

 
illustri 2007-12-15 01:00:55 PM  
thats retarded

 
Swampthing in Korea 2007-12-15 01:01:08 PM  
This one would be better:

"We have your daughter. She was dirty and touched our chair. It must be now cleaned, after which we shall scrub thoroughly and change out clothes....OCD"

 
ScottMpls 2007-12-15 01:02:09 PM  
K-Mart sucks.

 
ah3133 2007-12-15 01:03:30 PM  
"To say that autism or bulimia has kidnapped a child suggests that these conditions are part of a criminal element," she said.

lol! missed the metaphor, did we? taking it a little too literally. maybe we can work with this. how about this ad:

www.spectrecollie.com

"I'm Autism! I'm coming for your children! MUHAHAHAHAHA!"

 
Sir Roderick Glossop 2007-12-15 01:04:04 PM  
kronicfeld: "To say that autism or bulimia has kidnapped a child suggests that these conditions are part of a criminal element," she said.

Congratulations, you are officially the stupidest motherf*cker on the planet.


Snocones: Are parents really that stupid? How long before the lawsuits start?

Considering the parents of these kids are the target of the ads, I'd say it is the advertising agency that wins the stupid prize here. Haven't they ever heard of focus groups?

/think the parents are being too touchy
//this is to be anticipated in the demographic

 
Spookync 2007-12-15 01:06:09 PM  
First they biatch because there isn't enough awareness. Now they biatch because they are getting it.

i221.photobucket.com

 
Manic_Repressive [TotalFark] 2007-12-15 01:06:24 PM  
ah3133: "I'm Autism! I'm coming for your children! MUHAHAHAHAHA Robble-robble-robble!"

FIFY

 
Smellvin 2007-12-15 01:08:39 PM  
I'm going to officially change my name to Autism, kidnap a bunch of children in that area, and force them to learn to belch loudly and make randy jokes in public. That'll learn 'em.

 
Piss Up A Rope 2007-12-15 01:08:46 PM  
wapner?
www.berkeley.edu

 
Takeshi6400 2007-12-15 01:10:20 PM  
DistendedPendulusFrenulum: 1. It's truly amazing what can be done with autistic kids, as well as kids with other types of disabilities and so forth.

1A. If you can afford it.

2. When I was a kid, everyone who couldn't keep up--even people with polio, were referred to as "retarded." So even though I could read chapter books at age 4, the fact that I couldn't do simple arithmetic meant I was retarded.

In the Good Olden Days that the reactionaries worship with such abject zeal, an autistic kid would have been considered possessed by demons, a simpleton, or perhaps put to hideous tasks that no one else wished to do.

I just don't think these parents are thinking in terms of what could be, what things might be like, and what they once were.


Retard.

 
CrAz3D 2007-12-15 01:10:25 PM  
Kristina Chew -- the mother of an autistic child and founder of a blog
A blog, really? I wonder how hard that is to do. I wonder if I can do something like that. Sure would be nifty.

 
evil saltine 2007-12-15 01:12:32 PM  
ecx.images-amazon.com

 
whitefalcon79 2007-12-15 01:14:14 PM  
TheXerox: Seriously, AS hasn't "destroyed" my ability for social interaction nor has it lead me to a life of complete isolation. It just lead me to learn that I'm wired a bit differently than most everyone else. I gradually figured out social interaction much like how one would learn a foreign language and I put it into practice daily so I can handle basic interactions with people without them wondering what the hell is wrong with me.

Mine is a mild case, YMMV.


My story is similar. I have AS but I've never let it be a fallback or an excuse as to why I couldn't do something. It just means I'm kind of an oddball and the trickiest part is knowing when to put a stopper on that (I work in sales, 'nuff said).

 
watox 2007-12-15 01:15:03 PM  
kronicfeld: "To say that autism or bulimia has kidnapped a child suggests that these conditions are part of a criminal element," she said.

Congratulations, you are officially the stupidest motherf*cker on the planet.


I'll second that!

Sir Roderick Glossop: Considering the parents of these kids are the target of the ads, I'd say it is the advertising agency that wins the stupid prize here. Haven't they ever heard of focus groups?

The ads are to bring attention/raise awareness.... do you think the parents are aware? I think a lot of people (like us) are aware now...

 
for good or for awesome 2007-12-15 01:19:20 PM  
Parents with autistic kids need to be reminded of it more. Ask yourself: have they suffered enough? Clearly not.

 
Lambeau 2007-12-15 01:19:30 PM  
www.questionablecontent.net

Dear OCD,
We're exploiting your condition for a few laughs, which is infinitely better than pretending it didn't exist. --QC

/Questionable Content FTW

 
watox 2007-12-15 01:21:56 PM  
for good or for awesome: Parents with autistic kids need to be reminded of it more. Ask yourself: have they suffered enough? Clearly not.

Did you hear the great whooshing sound above your head just then?

That was the point...


/thinking you missed it...
//ABSOLUTELY agree that parents of Autism have a heavy burden to bear!!!
///Uncle of Autism...

 
Sir Roderick Glossop 2007-12-15 01:27:02 PM  
watox: Sir Roderick Glossop: Considering the parents of these kids are the target of the ads, I'd say it is the advertising agency that wins the stupid prize here. Haven't they ever heard of focus groups?

The ads are to bring attention/raise awareness.... do you think the parents are aware? I think a lot of people (like us) are aware now...


The ads were sponsored by the NYU Child Study Center which offers treatment for these conditions and conducts research as well.

They're raising awareness about the presence of their services. The ads are so scant on details about the diagnoses that it takes for granted that some parents know or suspect their children have these conditions.

This is NYU advertising as much as it is a PSA.

/not that there is anything wrong with that

 
plumbicon 2007-12-15 01:27:16 PM  
Hey, whad'ya expect for free? You have to pay big bucks to get quality advertising, even for nonprofits. They probably gave the assignment to some ADD intern in the mailroom...

 
soze [TotalFark] 2007-12-15 01:31:31 PM  
Oooh, an autism flamewar!

HURRRRRR THIMEROSAL

 
watox 2007-12-15 01:32:02 PM  
Sir Roderick Glossop: They're raising awareness about the presence of their services.

That info is not in the article. If that is true then your point is valid!

/the more you know...

 
EmmaLou 2007-12-15 01:32:46 PM  
kronicfeld: "To say that autism or bulimia has kidnapped a child suggests that these conditions are part of a criminal element," she said.

Congratulations, you are officially the stupidest motherf*cker on the planet.


I lol'ed. Thanks

 
MadTheologian 2007-12-15 01:34:53 PM  
TheXerox: "We have your son. We are destroying his ability for social interaction and driving him to a life of complete isolation. It's up to you now... Asperger's Syndrome"

I have Asperger's Syndrome, so I'm really getting a kick out of these replies...


Seriously, AS hasn't "destroyed" my ability for social interaction nor has it lead me to a life of complete isolation. It just lead me to learn that I'm wired a bit differently than most everyone else. I gradually figured out social interaction much like how one would learn a foreign language and I put it into practice daily so I can handle basic interactions with people without them wondering what the hell is wrong with me.

Mine is a mild case, YMMV.


Count me as another Aspie who is getting a huge kick out of all of this.

That parent should be angry...but for a different reason. That ad is fostering a victim mentality and keeping up the stereotypes.

"Your daughter is with us. She will reject the teenybopper culture and actually learn more than her peers. Although she will endure the slings and arrows of rejection, you will help her get over it so she can be successful on her own terms."

--Autism

PS: Although the People's Court is decent entertainment, we prefer shows on Sci-Fi. Thank you.

 
drjekel_mrhyde 2007-12-15 01:36:34 PM  
i5.tinypic.com
i2.tinypic.com
I remember this mental ill kid at summer camp who would shout out
"sec-ca-dees-bubble" for seconds at dinner

//still can't get that out my mind 15 years later

 
nanna banana 2007-12-15 01:37:16 PM  
My youngest son has Asperger's. I remember his diagnosis in 1998. They said 'at least he's not retarded'. Then my brain shut down and I stopped listening. I did hear something about having to quit my job because finding resources would take all my waking hours.

We were lucky enough to get him into a school paid therapy/daycare place that did wonders with him. It was tough on us to get him there and he had therapy hours a day, year round for 3 years before starting kindergarten. They taught him sign language, then he started talking.

Fast forward 10 years - he's an A student in 7th grade, always on the Honor Roll, won a Presidential education award in 5th grade (though he didn't really want it, as it was 'signed' by President Bush). He has so many gifts that he brings to our lives, I can't imagine life any other way. He is a challenge to play Scrabble with. He played 'poult' the other day. I had no idea it was a single turkey/baby bird. He remembers EVERYTHING.

We know we are very lucky to have him.

 
CalvinMorallis 2007-12-15 01:39:19 PM  
If I said what I was thinking, not only would I go to hell, but the rest of you would be sucked in by my vortex of evil, and so, I will just...

/chortle.

 
drjekel_mrhyde 2007-12-15 01:44:38 PM  
i5.tinypic.com

 
DO NOT WANT Poster Girl [recently expired TotalFark] 2007-12-15 01:45:26 PM  
The parents are likely upset because of the scare-tactic, OMG ONOZ tone of the ads. Just because a kid has one of these disorders doesn't mean EVERYBODY PANIC, but that's how it's played.

Painting all kids with one of these disorders with a common extreme brush is just way too reactionary.

Quote about the "criminal element" crap also sounds selected out of context. Not that journalists are guilty of that, oh no.

 
Gussie Fink-Nottle 2007-12-15 01:45:39 PM  
img134.imageshack.us

We have your son. We don't want him.

'Autism'

 
Tainted1 2007-12-15 01:50:12 PM  
Sir Roderick Glossop: kronicfeld: "To say that autism or bulimia has kidnapped a child suggests that these conditions are part of a criminal element," she said.

Congratulations, you are officially the stupidest motherf*cker on the planet.

Snocones: Are parents really that stupid? How long before the lawsuits start?

Considering the parents of these kids are the target of the ads, I'd say it is the advertising agency that wins the stupid prize here. Haven't they ever heard of focus groups?

/think the parents are being too touchy
//this is to be anticipated in the demographic


Nope, the parent are still the stupidest motherfarkers on the planet.

 
DO NOT WANT Poster Girl [recently expired TotalFark] 2007-12-15 01:52:53 PM  
nanna banana: My youngest son has Asperger's. I remember his diagnosis in 1998. They said 'at least he's not retarded'. Then my brain shut down and I stopped listening. I did hear something about having to quit my job because finding resources would take all my waking hours.

We were lucky enough to get him into a school paid therapy/daycare place that did wonders with him. It was tough on us to get him there and he had therapy hours a day, year round for 3 years before starting kindergarten. They taught him sign language, then he started talking.

Fast forward 10 years - he's an A student in 7th grade, always on the Honor Roll, won a Presidential education award in 5th grade (though he didn't really want it, as it was 'signed' by President Bush). He has so many gifts that he brings to our lives, I can't imagine life any other way. He is a challenge to play Scrabble with. He played 'poult' the other day. I had no idea it was a single turkey/baby bird. He remembers EVERYTHING.

We know we are very lucky to have him.


I know a couple with a youngest child with some pretty severe Asperger's. They're having a really hard time finding proper care for him. The local school system is refusing to help, saying that he's coping fine, though the battery of doctors are all saying he's unable to function.

Their other kids are all OK, no problems, so it was the first time they ever had to witness how hard it is to get proper care for a kid in the public school system.

Even the teachers are saying the kid is brilliant but has a hard time coping with standard filtering (that most people do normally)...the school system admins aren't listening.

 
bbcard1 2007-12-15 02:02:51 PM  
There's plenty of stupid to go around here. The ads seem like something a junior copywriter and a washed up CD would team up to do with visions of getting his work into CA and winning a Gold Lion at Cannes. Unfortuneately, it down not seem to have a lot of regard for the target they should hoping to help. He's not the first. After 18 months of writing technical manuals and web copy for a new server, you're willing to push things a little to see if you can break out...

The parents may have legit concerns about the ads, but I sure hope the one articulated isn't the most common one. It sounded pretty lame.

 
Bones3D_mac 2007-12-15 02:05:23 PM  
The ads may have been initially well intentioned, but really, they are in bad taste and almost as annoying as those big tobacco "truth" ads. It's not really helping anyone and only seems to make those with severely autistic children feel worse.

You can get people to act on such things without turning your platform into a badly produced episode of CSI.

 
half-mad-genius 2007-12-15 02:12:17 PM  
TheXerox: Seriously, AS hasn't "destroyed" my ability for social interaction nor has it lead me to a life of complete isolation. It just lead me to learn that I'm wired a bit differently than most everyone else. I gradually figured out social interaction much like how one would learn a foreign language and I put it into practice daily so I can handle basic interactions with people without them wondering what the hell is wrong with me.

My story is similar. I have AS but I've never let it be a fallback or an excuse as to why I couldn't do something. It just means I'm kind of an oddball and the trickiest part is knowing when to put a stopper on that (I work in sales, 'nuff said).


THIS sounds all to familiar. Ever wonder about my handle? Well know you know. Seriously, I have ADHD and was labeled 'emotionally disturbed' in elementary school. (What ever the hell that means.) And a doctor my mother met while on vacation in another state once told her based on her description of my behavior I might have mild AS but I never saw a specialist so was never diagnosed with that.

Life has been difficult, but I wouldn't say it was ruined by these conditions, just that they are yet more things I had to cope with. Interacting with others can be a bit tricky some times. I sometimes miss more subtle jokes. And when some one uses a metaphor I sometimes miss it and take it literally. And I can't stand still to save my life. Can be awkward but not the end of the world.

 
signaljammer 2007-12-15 02:15:58 PM  
I've got this friend with a very mild autistic spectrum disorder. One time I had a pair of optical polarizers and was stretching Saran Wrap between them to make colors. Gave him a turn. If the GF hadn't interrupted him, he would never have stopped.

//Good with
//engine repair, 'though.

 
bbcard1 2007-12-15 02:20:49 PM  
I suspect several of the high achievers I know have a mild case of AS...

 
dh2 2007-12-15 02:28:54 PM  
TheXerox
whitefalcon79
MadTheologian

Another Aspie here (fairly socially-acclimated but still prefer being alone) with an Aspie son. He had a horrible time in high school (and I guess I did too in my day,) until we were both diagnosed just after he left the public school system clinically depressed. Just knowing why we are 'the-way-we-are' changed everything, and it all made sense. So now he is playing to his strengths and working on his socialization skills.
nanna banana
Agreed, same feelings here. Great kids. It's not something wrong with us, just something different.

 
half-mad-genius 2007-12-15 02:31:31 PM  
"Your daughter is with us. She will reject the teenybopper culture and actually learn more than her peers. Although she will endure the slings and arrows of rejection, you will help her get over it so she can be successful on her own terms."

--Autism

PS: Although the People's Court is decent entertainment, we prefer shows on Sci-Fi. Thank you.


I can has Animal Planet?
I asked Santa for a crystal growing kit, a chemistry set, a microscope and an Easy Bake oven when I was nine. I got a bicycle and Barbie instead. May Barbie's plastic blond soul rest in pieces.

Use to read mom's medical texts and the encyclopedias for fun. then In high school I hunted down ever book on ancient civilizations, mythology, psychology, zoology, botany, and metaphysics.

My boy friend asked Santa for a globe when he was five and made a toy helicopter with a turning propeller and a working light in 2nd grade.

 
FarkeeDeSade [TotalFark] 2007-12-15 02:31:45 PM  
Definitely.

 
Mediocre Googly Moogly 2007-12-15 02:31:47 PM  
I have Asperger's so I'm getting a kick out of these replies...

/no really

 
Khazar-Khum 2007-12-15 02:35:28 PM  
Sir Roderick Glossop: kronicfeld: "To say that autism or bulimia has kidnapped a child suggests that these conditions are part of a criminal element," she said.

Congratulations, you are officially the stupidest motherf*cker on the planet.

Snocones: Are parents really that stupid? How long before the lawsuits start?

Considering the parents of these kids are the target of the ads, I'd say it is the advertising agency that wins the stupid prize here. Haven't they ever heard of focus groups?

/think the parents are being too touchy
//this is to be anticipated in the demographic


Looks to me like they did talk wih focus groups.
FTFA: Dr. Harold S. Koplewicz, director of the center, said the ads were developed after conversations with parents who said they felt that their children had been stolen by disorders like autism and depression.

 
Mediocre Googly Moogly 2007-12-15 02:36:33 PM  
dh2: Just knowing why we are 'the-way-we-are' changed everything, and it all made sense.

Same here. I spent years depressed because I was "different" and had no reason for it. Somehow, having a reason helped things make sense and the depression went away. The more you know, I guess.

/diagnosed at 17

 
Megain [TotalFark] 2007-12-15 02:39:20 PM  
Khazar-Khum: Looks to me like they did talk wih focus groups.

do you really think this is the right thread to make fun of the rtfa-impaired? seems a bit insensitive to me

 
Marley 2007-12-15 02:41:55 PM  
Wapner's parents are alive?

 
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