jake tapper is a no-talent assclown.

I am sure it is just a lieberal slant to the news ^{(^)}

Well, they DO like the war. If it wasn't for the war, they wouldn't be able to demonize the Democrats as being against it, now, would they?

SurfaceTension: Well, they DO like the war. If it wasn't for the war, they wouldn't be able to demonize the Democrats as being against it, now, would they?

I guess Democrats like abortion for the same reason then.

TFA: "They like this war. They want this war to continue. We thought that they shared the view of so many people in our country that we need a new direction in Iraq. To affect that we need redeployment of our troops with a goal of a year to do that. But the Republicans have made it very clear that this is just not George Bush's war, this is the war of the Republicans in Congress."

The rest came after she was asked to clarify. Sounds to me like she meant it in the first place and on the spot realized it sounded bad, but wasn't going to say anything until the friendly, unbiased media members gave her an easy out by asking that she 'clarify'. So, keep up the apologist angle, libs. It's funny to watch you sputter sometimes.

I really believe we need a new political party. And not the libertarians.

Republicans are like the war in Iraq: incompetently run.

What do I win?

She's right.

Alien Robot: SurfaceTension: Well, they DO like the war. If it wasn't for the war, they wouldn't be able to demonize the Democrats as being against it, now, would they?

I guess Democrats like abortion for the same reason then.

No, we like abortion because fetuses are delicious.

Car_Ramrod: Alien Robot: SurfaceTension: Well, they DO like the war. If it wasn't for the war, they wouldn't be able to demonize the Democrats as being against it, now, would they?

I guess Democrats like abortion for the same reason then.

No, we like abortion because fetuses are delicious.

Unless you are the fetus, then would it be fun?

what is it with people thinking that possessing WMDs is an invadable offense?
When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. I was reading about the demolition of low-income housing in New Orleans earlier, and most of the comments (by well-off white residents of the city) were along the lines of "Smash!", too. "Hit it with a rock" was the best answer for several hundred thousand years of human existence, I suppose.

Brett Favre: Car_Ramrod: Alien Robot: SurfaceTension: Well, they DO like the war. If it wasn't for the war, they wouldn't be able to demonize the Democrats as being against it, now, would they?

I guess Democrats like abortion for the same reason then.

No, we like abortion because fetuses are delicious.

Unless you are the fetus, then would it be fun?

Luckily, liberals never exist in fetus form. We just appear as a product of all the hate in the world.

/just like the slime in Ghostbusters 2

Shaggy_C: The rest came after she was asked to clarify. Sounds to me like she meant it in the first place and on the spot realized it sounded bad, but wasn't going to say anything until the friendly, unbiased media members gave her an easy out by asking that she 'clarify'. So, keep up the apologist angle, libs. It's funny to watch you sputter sometimes.

She did mean it and it pisses me off that she would apologize for it. I am sick and tired of the democrats who are afraid to tell Americans the truth, because they fear what the cross dresser or Mormon thinks.

/She was right

Car_Ramrod: Brett Favre: Car_Ramrod: Alien Robot: SurfaceTension: Well, they DO like the war. If it wasn't for the war, they wouldn't be able to demonize the Democrats as being against it, now, would they?

I guess Democrats like abortion for the same reason then.

No, we like abortion because fetuses are delicious.

Unless you are the fetus, then would it be fun?

Luckily, liberals never exist in fetus form. We just appear as a product of all the hate in the world.

/just like the slime in Ghostbusters 2

haha +1 to you sir!

she was right the first time.

You know who else liked the war?

Republicans like war as Democrats like penis/mouth to anus contact between persons of the same sex. Stereotypes are fun you little Nance biatch. Any words of wisdom about members of the NAACP while you're at it, bright girl Nancy? Mother and grandmother to your children and grandchildren Nancy? Like you have to make sure that's in there before you pawn off obscenely anti family garbage in Congress Nancy? You are a joke like the people you fraudulently represent.

Anyone who listened to Dave Ramsey explain why paying into your own private savings mutual fund at the 15.8% rate you and your employer kick in to the democratically inspired social security system between the ages of 20 and 60 assuming average income of 40K, 13% return, you are a 3 millionaire. With the democrats little whore child SS, you'll be lucky to get anything.

The democrats want everyone poor.

Softens_hands_while_you_do_the_dishes: Republicans like war as Democrats like penis/mouth to anus contact between persons of the same sex.

Seems like many Republicans like that too.

Softens_hands_while_you_do_the_dishes: Republicans like war as Democrats like penis/mouth to anus contact between persons of the same sex. Stereotypes are fun you little Nance biatch. Any words of wisdom about members of the NAACP while you're at it, bright girl Nancy? Mother and grandmother to your children and grandchildren Nancy? Like you have to make sure that's in there before you pawn off obscenely anti family garbage in Congress Nancy? You are a joke like the people you fraudulently represent.

why do I get a feeling you are like this guy?


/don't want to be around you when the democrats win the election in 08.

Republican politicians don't like the war, they LOVE it. Thy can demonize anyone who tells the truth about its utter waste and uselessness, and without it their horrendous failure of domestic policy would be that much more obvious.

RanDomino: what is it with people thinking that possessing WMDs is an invadable offense?


Having WMD programs, as one of numerous violations (kicking out inspectors, shooting at planes patrolling the no-fly zone, etc.) of the conditional cease fire that ended the first Gulf War-that there's an "invadable" (? is that a word?) offense.

They don't like like the war, they just like it.

Actually, they love it. They are making billions of dollars off it. The chaos in Iraq was planned chaos. It is through complete confusion and anarchy that billions can disappear, that oil can flow unregistered and the GOP contirbutors can line their pockets.

Actually they do like the war. Why else do they support a losing effort all while calling everyone who actually sees what's going on 'terrorsts'?

War and gay restroom BJs. It's what the GOP loves.

Why are you all still talking? Car_Ramrod already won the thread.

Yep. Just like you like abortions Nance.

Alien Robot: SurfaceTension: Well, they DO like the war. If it wasn't for the war, they wouldn't be able to demonize the Democrats as being against it, now, would they?

I guess Democrats like abortion for the same reason then.

Abortions are necessary.

Apparently Pelosi also enjoys angry Turks.

Goddamn liberal media.

I think she's wrong only for making the correction.

BravadoGT
Having WMD programs, as one of numerous violations (kicking out inspectors, shooting at planes patrolling the no-fly zone, etc.) of the conditional cease fire that ended the first Gulf War-that there's an "invadable" (? is that a word?) offense.

It is, actually.

Saddam was a cruel dictator who frequently broke international law, but it's not like the only solution was to invade his country and kill hundreds of thousands of people.

It's better than hoping we'll lose.

Pelosi doesn't seem to have a major problem with the war, either. Same with waterboarding.

inconnu: It's better than hoping we'll lose.

There were no WMDs and no ties to al-Qaeda...therefore, there is no way we can win. It's like if we had invaded Vietnam to stop the communists, then discovered that there were no communists in Vietnam. Under such conditions, victory is impossible.

We should have left in late 2003 when it was clear the WMDs didn't exist.

Even if "victory in Iraq" is defined as leaving with the current Iraqi government stable and in control of the entire country, the current Iraqi government is a strong ally of Iran and has said it will never allow a permanent US military base. There are now anti-American terrorists in Iraq and some of them, like Al Sadr's Mahdi Army, are part of the government and won't be leaving any time soon. Plus, the Sunni minority, backed by Saudi Arabia, and the Kurds are both time-bombs threatening the Iraq Republic's long-term stability and the stability of the entire region.

Kinda puts to rest the myth that there's a possible "victory" in Iraq. The situation is too nuanced, and weighed too heavily against our strategic interests, the interests of our allies, and the future security of the Iraqi nation, to be simply resolved by anything describable as a "victory."

For all democrats:



Why is it our leaders have sucky oratory / mass media skills?

Bacontastesgood: For all democrats:



Why is it our leaders have sucky oratory / mass media skills?

hopefully when these "leaders" die off we will end up with these:

ifarkthereforiam: I really believe we need a new political party. And not the "libertarians".

FTFY

Not buying either of the party lines I do have some observations..

The Republicans are unable to change. Still trying to apply centurys old religious values, which most of them don't practice, and most people living today don't care about. They used to be a party of 'less government' 'less spending' which had it's appeal but that is out the window now. They are just buying votes like everyone else now.

The Democrats, on the other hand, seem to have no standing. They spend all of their time whining and attacking instead of showing another future. Pretty much playing not to lose rather than playing to win. And,after the debacle of the idiot son, they manage a polarizing woman and a semi black nobody to fight for the prize..

It makes me wonder whether anyone really wants this job. Can all of these people really be so stupid? I think the answer is yes.

<b>Executive Monkey:</b> <i>inconnu: It's better than hoping we'll lose.

There were no WMDs and no ties to al-Qaeda...therefore, there is no way we can win. It's like if we had invaded Vietnam to stop the communists, then discovered that there were no communists in Vietnam. Under such conditions, victory is impossible.</i>

It doesn't mean there isn't a way to get out without it turning into Saigon, 1975 again.

God, Nancy is such a tool.

fark you Pelosi, seriously, fark you. Your party was sent to Washington in 2006 to clean this shiat up, and you have done next to nothing.

A Ron Paul movie, but it fits all people tired of this war (new window)

Ooo ooo, can I say that Democrats "like" (air quotes are always fun) this war too because they can do nothing about it in lieu of just spewing more hollow rhetoric and pointing fingers at everyone else?

ifarkthereforiam: I really believe we need a new political party. And not the libertarians.

We need a social democratic left. What we have is corporatism that panders to xenophobic, religious, aggressive rightists and corporatism that panders to a watered down version of liberalism that the rest of the world still considers right of center. Russ Feingold and Dennis Kucinich are radically left in the US spectrum, but would be mainstream politicians outside of the United States of Jesus Land.

We need to increase social liberties and decide where we want our tax dollars going. I'd gladly pay more taxes for increased education, environmental standards, and municipal programs while reducing taxes that basically function as corporate welfare. I'm already paying for almost as much for health care that I don't receive (get mine through my employer like many of us do) via income taxes as I am for defense- why are my taxes not funding a single payer system that covers everyone? Why are they paying for Senators' insurance that are in the pocket of HMOs and the insurance industry? Why is defense spending taking over four times as much of my tax dollars as education when we are awarding billions of dollars in no-bid contracts to multi-billion dollar corporations that charge 45$ for a case of soda and we're falling behind in world education? I don't object to paying taxes to support the military, I object to wasting tax dollars on profiteering corporations and mercenaries that slaughter innocent civilians.

Taxes aren't going away. The deficit is not going to go away by cutting taxes. I will gladly pay taxes for things that better the nation. The system is farked. Incredibly farked.

Dhusk: Republican politicians don't like the war, they LOVE it.

/this
//this
///a thousand times THIS.

Why are liberal talking points starting to sound more like conspiracy theories? Seriously, there is nothing wrong with being liberal. It is largely a sensible paradigm. But since the Bush administration took office the liberal population seems to have been herded into the camps of conspiracy theorists where they are fed a consistent dose of misinformation and half-truth from "Political Action Committees".

I'm not saying that these don't exist in conservative circles, and maybe I've only noticed it recently because I've gone from 17 to 24 since Bush took office, but libs have gone WAY down hill. Instead of arguing for what is optimal and promoting their own ideas and views of the world, they're so focused on trying to convince the world that the Bush administration is a bunch of greedy cronies and oil barons and that he is intentionally lying to people and fear mongering about terrorism.

If you read that last sentence and thought, "What? You saying he isn't?" then you really need to read more erudite conservative material. Look into why intelligent conservatives do not agree with these characterizations. This conspiracy theory and contextomy has gotten way out of hand and is frankly just interfering with communication to prevent you the citizen from having an informed decision of what are often equally respectable viewpoints.

//rant
///PACs can go to hell. Get your trash off of our radios, TV screens, newspapers, and mail slots.

grxymkjbn: Dhusk: Republican politicians don't like the war, they LOVE it.

/this
//this
///a thousand times THIS.

Why do they "love" it? Let me guess, they're all in the pockets of Halliburton, and they can't wait to torture some more ragheads in GTMO because it makes their balls tickle.

No way they could have any kind of a rational reason for going to war. We're the enemy.

I mean look what the republicans did in Halabja, Kansas...



Oh wait... that was Halabja, Iraq... and it was Saddam Hussein.

Oh and hang on, let me pre-empt you. We're also the bad guys for staying in Iraq. The minority willing to slaughter and mutilate people to establish tribal dominance and theocracy should have more say in the Iraqi government than the people of Iraq who just want food, water, electricity, and fair elections. We should totally leave, it's not our war. Withdraw, if they kill each others' people over which flavor of Mullah they prefer it's not our business. Isolationism FTW. No blood for oil.

Executive Monkey: inconnu: It's better than hoping we'll lose.

There were no WMDs and no ties to al-Qaeda...therefore, there is no way we can win. It's like if we had invaded Vietnam to stop the communists, then discovered that there were no communists in Vietnam. Under such conditions, victory is impossible.

No, it's more like invading North Vietnam expecting to find WMDs with the less-dramatic but equally important goal of ousting a brutal dictator and freeing an oppressed people, botching it terribly because you didn't listen to Eric Shinseki leading to an unpopular but willful insurgency, then having your political opponents exploit the ensuing chaos to gain power with little regard for the actual scenario in question by using misinformation and fear-mongering and fear mongering about fear mongering (therefore completely covering their own asses) and gaining more and more political steam the more they kick and scream as you try desperately to fix this situation while tens of thousands of innocent people are getting slaughtered in the crossfire and watching as somehow their deaths are turned into justification for not helping them out of hatred for the clumsy oaf who did the right thing the wrong way.

FTFY.