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(Philly) Interesting "Hacker Boot Camp" teaches security tactics by teaching students some popular hacker techniques. Now get down and give me twenty credit card numbers, maggot   (philly.com) divider line 30
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Paranoia-' 2007-04-15 07:49:26 PM  
Damn. So we encourage these things now...?!

 
Glass Parking Lot 2007-04-15 07:50:23 PM  
At first glance, I thought it said "die" on the board behind the dude in the picture.

 
Leonid 2007-04-15 07:52:57 PM  
Nothing makes me want to vote Ron Paul like spam.

 
COOTYSRATSEMEN 2007-04-15 07:54:22 PM  
Leonid: His page does have his contact information. Could be an interesting conversation...

 
char_boy 2007-04-15 07:55:50 PM  
I didn't know they compiled shiat that high, Private Numbnutz!

 
jake_lex [TotalFark] 2007-04-15 07:56:22 PM  
You code like old people fark!

sionphoto.blogs.com

 
The Grinch 2007-04-15 07:57:20 PM  
Heh. He's a consultant in "penetration testing". The pay is low, but the benefits balance it all out.

 
Sock Puppet Army 2007-04-15 07:57:25 PM  
This is about teach IT professionals on how an evil hacker will get into a computer system. Wait, we don't want people to know how to write secure code do we?!

 
Horice 2007-04-15 07:58:00 PM  
Juggy bank? Wonder if they have tellers that jump on trampolines?

 
cabal08 2007-04-15 08:08:38 PM  
Eh...all the Internet needs are more script-kiddies...

/Hackers keep me in business.
//Bless their little live-in-their-moms-basement-never-seen-a-girl-naked hearts.

 
Jack31081 2007-04-15 08:11:49 PM  
a/s/cc#?

 
BBRModitha 2007-04-15 08:16:38 PM  
I'm going to say Jack31081 wins.

 
llewyrr [TotalFark] 2007-04-15 08:54:03 PM  
Does this go with the kid yesterday that got arrested for proving a point by breaking into his school's network, after warning them about it?

About. Freaking. Time.

 
isamudyson 2007-04-15 08:56:45 PM  
Nothing new about this. When I went for my MSCE (NT 4.0) this was common. In fact people passed tons of hacker code & tricks all over the place. It did teach us to how to keep people from cracking our systems.

 
vwfst55 2007-04-15 09:11:14 PM  
heh, I could give a good Google search that would leave you wondering.

 
stevarooni 2007-04-15 09:18:49 PM  
I had a course similar to this for my job. It was both scary and very envigorating to see just how simply some sites could be hacked. It really does make people think about security when programming, too.

 
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Impasse 2007-04-15 09:51:12 PM  
jake_lex: You code like old people fark!

Hehehe.

/burned out developer

 
mbpark 2007-04-15 10:50:51 PM  
Having courses like this is a good thing.

Now if they could make all developers take these courses as part of their jobs, our lives would be much easier!

Seriously, as someone who works in Information Security, I have to work with developers who have never had any type of security education whatsoever.

Showing developers that there are really nefarious and yet simple ways to mess with their code will really encourage them to code using safer languages (not PHP - Java, ASP.NET, or Perl), better programming/performance techniques (using proper parameterized database queries instead of free-form SQL, and Stored Procedures or compiled middleware libraries for business logic that shouldn't be in web pages), and with locking down their applications in mind (ASP.NET Runtime Security Policies and Code Signing).

This article has the sensationalism that you'd expect, but is more practical for developers than anyone else.

 
goldschlager16 2007-04-15 11:04:56 PM  
but do they teach you how to hack the Gibson?
\obscure?
\\an angelina jolie classic

 
Sarcasticus 2007-04-15 11:08:14 PM  
goldschlager16

Welp, I'm gonna have to go with the only hacking movie Angelina Jolie's been in; Hackers.

/D'uh, don't tell me it's obscure and give everyone a hint!
//Will be really embarassed if it's not Hackers.

 
tonylamm 2007-04-15 11:09:29 PM  
Developers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE

 
el Shazo 2007-04-15 11:56:27 PM  
I've actually taken one of these courses, by the company who's logo is in the background - EC-Council. Pretty interesting course. Had tons of tools and the "how to", not just script kiddie stuff. Test was hard as Hell though.

/Not a represenative, just a former customer

 
Premeditated_Road_Rage 2007-04-16 12:17:34 AM  
I have a co-worker who is barely computer literate, lacks the 'hacker mind', yet wants to land his dream job of being a netadmin in charge of security because it pays the big bucks. Trouble is, in the past month alone, I have busted him no less than five times logging in as an administrator in a crowded classroom to work on a machine and then walking away from it without logging out or locking it in order to get better reception on his cell phone or to work on another machine at the same time. He also never looks around to see if he is being shoulder surfed.

Last Friday, a student or students launched a small pskill attack on a lab he was in using local admin rights. Since he and I work in seperate buildings and he and I are the only ones (well, not any more, obviously) with those 'keys' and the attack was launched in and on his building, I think that boot camp or no, we can sum up the biggest computer vulnerability in one phrase, using my co-worker as an example:

"The weakest link in the security chain is the human one."

After that, friends, comes the software, IMHO.

 
jordan_lund 2007-04-16 12:20:58 AM  
I started a new job and the servers were being attacked DAILY by botnets in China, Korea, Taiwan, etc. They were running scripts trying to guess user-names and passwords via ssh.

"So, I'm seeing a lot of legitimate traffic over telnet and ftp, do you guys use ssh for anything?"

"What's ssh?"

"OK, nevermind."

Checked out the log files, found the only people trying to access ssh were foreign IP addresses.

service ssh stop

Problem solved.

 
leddown00 2007-04-16 01:14:53 AM  
I started a new job and the servers were being attacked DAILY by botnets in China, Korea, Taiwan, etc. They were running scripts trying to guess user-names and passwords via ssh.

"So, I'm seeing a lot of legitimate traffic over telnet and ftp, do you guys use ssh for anything?"

"What's ssh?"

"OK, nevermind."

Checked out the log files, found the only people trying to access ssh were foreign IP addresses.

service ssh stop

Problem solved.



nice.....way to ditch a secure protocol and instead use freaking clear text ftp and telnet.....sniff you very much.

you know firewalls have things called access lists. unless its just all hanging on the interwebs.....in which case I weep for you.

btw CEH was a joke... Test was silly also,(if you have really been into it for any length of time).. whatever you do don't mention your CEH at DefCon...

cabal08


Eh...all the Internet needs are more script-kiddies...

/Hackers keep me in business.
//Bless their little live-in-their-moms-basement-never-seen-a-girl-naked hearts.



and my guess is that you have never encountered a real hacker....atleast never found out about it....

funny, I've been to Tokyo, Amsterdam, and DC in the last 6months all for being a "little" hacker.

 
cabal08 2007-04-16 07:22:26 AM  
leddown00

"and my guess is that you have never encountered a real hacker....atleast never found out about it....

funny, I've been to Tokyo, Amsterdam, and DC in the last 6months all for being a "little" hacker."


And your guess is absolutely positively wrong but thanks for playing along anyway...

/Most so called "hackers" are just plain ole pesky with more software than skill.
//Know the difference between a "hacker" and a "cracker".

 
cabal08 2007-04-16 07:27:34 AM  
Jordan_Lund

I started a new job and the servers were being attacked DAILY by botnets in China, Korea, Taiwan, etc. They were running scripts trying to guess user-names and passwords via ssh.

"So, I'm seeing a lot of legitimate traffic over telnet and ftp, do you guys use ssh for anything?"

"What's ssh?"

"OK, nevermind."

Checked out the log files, found the only people trying to access ssh were foreign IP addresses.

service ssh stop

Problem solved.


Weeelll...

You may want to try tunnelling your FTP and Telnet traffic through SSH (after you change the default port #) and use an SSH client that supports public/private keys.

/Hey I'm just saying is all...

 
oneodd1 2007-04-16 10:02:04 AM  
I love it when someone gets spanked and then starts crying about semantics.

 
leddown00 2007-04-16 07:06:18 PM  
cabal08

"//Know the difference between a "hacker" and a "cracker"."

ha.....your funny...in a sad way.

to even talk like that....ehhh...

 
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