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(beliefnet) Hero What George Washington really believed: "He was neither evangelical nor secularist -- just a great man." Happy President's Day   (beliefnet.com) divider line 175
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CtrlAltDelete [TotalFark] 2007-02-19 04:04:27 AM  
Well I didn't vote for him.

 
RaptorRed 2007-02-19 04:14:29 AM  
This is something I think every American should read as it bursts the myths about Washington's position on religion from both sides of the spectrum. The guy was more of a moderate than anything else in regards to religion.

 
And-1 2007-02-19 04:20:58 AM  
And he was also hemp grower who would have been arrested and imprisoned by every recent administration.

What the hell has America become?

 
bales [TotalFark] 2007-02-19 04:23:05 AM  
me and GW would have got together, smoked a fatty, and farked some whores.

 
log_jammin [TotalFark] 2007-02-19 04:28:42 AM  
And-1: And he was also hemp grower who would have been arrested and imprisoned by every recent administration.

I kinda doubt hemp growers rights would be his top priority if he was around today.

 
Sun God [TotalFark] 2007-02-19 04:32:24 AM  
Wow. A Presidents' Day thread.

 
conexus 2007-02-19 04:32:40 AM  
log_jammin: I kinda doubt hemp growers rights would be his top priority if he was around today.

He'd be concerned by all the darkies running around free

 
log_jammin [TotalFark] 2007-02-19 04:37:35 AM  
conexus: He'd be concerned by all the darkies running around free

That or why the kids are running around these days without powdered wigs, makeup and tights

 
CtrlAltDelete [TotalFark] 2007-02-19 04:37:51 AM  
conexus: He'd be concerned by all the darkies running around free

I don't think he'd get THAT far. He'd be amazed and frightened by the strange and mystical roaring horseless pull-carts zipping about all willy-nilly. He'd be no doubt hospitalized and die of shock.

 
log_jammin [TotalFark] 2007-02-19 04:42:33 AM  
CtrlAltDelete: He'd be no doubt hospitalized and die of shock.

Then the hospital would bring him back and he would be amazed that we have advanced so far that we can bring people "back from the dead", and then he would die of shock again.

 
Sun God [TotalFark] 2007-02-19 04:43:08 AM  
And-1: And he was also hemp grower who would have been arrested and imprisoned by every recent administration.

He also made booze.

 
CtrlAltDelete [TotalFark] 2007-02-19 04:43:28 AM  
log_jammin: Then the hospital would bring him back and he would be amazed that we have advanced so far that we can bring people "back from the dead", and then he would die of shock again.

That poor guy.

 
robmilmel [TotalFark] 2007-02-19 04:46:31 AM  
Once the religious, the hunted and weary
Chasing the promise of freedom and hope
Came to this country to build a new vision
Far from the reaches of kingdom and pope
Like good Christians, some would burn the witches
Later some got slaves to gather riches

But still from near and far to seek America
They came by thousands to court the wild
And she just patiently smiled and bore a child
To be their spirit and guiding light

And once the ties with the crown had been broken
Westward in saddle and wagon it went
And 'til the railroad linked ocean to ocean
Many the lives which had come to an end
While we bullied, stole and bought our a homeland
We began the slaughter of the red man

But still from near and far to seek America
They came by thousands to court the wild
And she just patiently smiled and bore a child
To be their spirit and guiding light

The blue and grey they stomped it
They kicked it just like a dog
And when the war over
They stuffed it just like a hog

And though the past has it's share of injustice
Kind was the spirit in many a way
But it's protectors and friends have been sleeping
Now it's a monster and will not obey

 
log_jammin [TotalFark] 2007-02-19 04:49:42 AM  
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Washington is dead
Why can't you be too?

 
Sir Cumference the Flatulent [TotalFark] 2007-02-19 04:50:21 AM  
I don't believe this. Is thig going to be a George Washington flamewar?????

 
log_jammin [TotalFark] 2007-02-19 04:55:04 AM  
god I hope so.

I want to kick some E-Hessian ass!

 
Sun God [TotalFark] 2007-02-19 04:59:31 AM  
Sir Cumference the Flatulent: I don't believe this. Is thig going to be a George Washington flamewar?????

Just humor the submitter. It'll be fun for a little while. But probably not funny.

 
log_jammin [TotalFark] 2007-02-19 05:01:34 AM  
He made booze

 
And-1 2007-02-19 05:01:49 AM  
log_jammin: I kinda doubt hemp growers rights would be his top priority if he was around today.

True, that is but one among the travesties that bastardize his memory and the foundations of this nation.

Sir Cumference the Flatulent: I don't believe this. Is thig going to be a George Washington flamewar?????

Screw you, bloody Jefferson supporting scumbag!

 
Poolio 2007-02-19 05:02:51 AM  
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log_jammin [TotalFark] 2007-02-19 05:09:20 AM  
And-1: that is but one among the travesties that bastardize his memory and the foundations of this nation.

Just before he got all pissy about hemp I'm sure his gettin pissy topics would be "where in the hell is Australia? and why are we lettin those bastards in here???? I bet they'll steal your shiat!!"

 
And-1 2007-02-19 05:11:59 AM  
Nah, as long as we would be willing to kick those Pommie bastards arses, he would let anyone in. And did.

 
log_jammin [TotalFark] 2007-02-19 05:15:30 AM  
true

/Heh! "pommie"

 
And-1 2007-02-19 05:16:22 AM  
Happy day, Washington. What you would have been up to today?

mann.com.au

 
FlyingPig [TotalFark] 2007-02-19 05:16:42 AM  
And yet, nowhere does it say Washington believed that religion should be allowed into the government. See? A politician can be quite religious and still respect the separation of church and state.

 
And-1 2007-02-19 05:17:16 AM  
log_jammin: Heh! "pommie"

That's Pommie bastard to you! Show some respect mate.

 
log_jammin [TotalFark] 2007-02-19 05:22:35 AM  
don't call me mate you Pommie bastard coddling toker!

I'll chop down a cherry tree and make it into an aussie killin spear of death. Then bite of your ear with my wooden teeth of revenge!

 
Gavino 2007-02-19 05:24:02 AM  
bales [TotalFark] me and GW would have got together, smoked a fatty, and farked some whores.

No need for whores dude, some very tame slaves around those parts.

 
And-1 2007-02-19 05:26:57 AM  
Haha!

 
vertigo32 2007-02-19 06:26:52 AM  
bales

me and GW would have got together, smoked a fatty, and farked some whores.

Slaves != whores.

You only need to pay for a slave once.

 
Sir Cumference the Flatulent [TotalFark] 2007-02-19 07:45:04 AM  
From Washington's Farewell Address, 1796:

I have already intimated to you the danger of parties in the State, with particular reference to the founding of them on geographical discriminations (hmmm...you mean like red and blue states? -- sctf). Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party generally.

This spirit, unfortunately, is inseparable from our nature, having its root in the strongest passions of the human mind. It exists under different shapes in all governments, more or less stifled, controlled, or repressed; but, in those of the popular form, it is seen in its greatest rankness, and is truly their worst enemy.

The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries which result gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of public liberty.

Without looking forward to an extremity of this kind (which nevertheless ought not to be entirely out of sight), the common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of party are sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it.

It serves always to distract the public councils and enfeeble the public administration. It agitates the community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms, kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally riot and insurrection. It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which finds a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions. Thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another.

There is an opinion that parties in free countries are useful checks upon the administration of the government and serve to keep alive the spirit of liberty. This within certain limits is probably true; and in governments of a monarchical cast, patriotism may look with indulgence, if not with favor, upon the spirit of party. But in those of the popular character, in governments purely elective, it is a spirit not to be encouraged. From their natural tendency, it is certain there will always be enough of that spirit for every salutary purpose. And there being constant danger of excess, the effort ought to be by force of public opinion, to mitigate and assuage it. A fire not to be quenched, it demands a uniform vigilance to prevent its bursting into a flame, lest, instead of warming, it should consume.

 
Dr_J 2007-02-19 07:56:46 AM  
Why does George Washington hate America?

 
mcsiegs [TotalFark] 2007-02-19 07:56:48 AM  
To quote Chappelle:

"Run Ni** It's George Washington"

 
Nabb1 [TotalFark] 2007-02-19 07:56:54 AM  
vertigo32: You only need to pay for a slave once.

I'm going to hell for laughing at that. Actually, I was going to hell, anyway.

 
Lord_Baull 2007-02-19 07:59:39 AM  
First and foremost, he'd be horrified by how thoroughly disregarded the 1st Amendment is.

 
greenz [TotalFark] 2007-02-19 08:02:16 AM  
BLAME GW!

 
Mr. Programmer 2007-02-19 08:03:08 AM  
I'm at work, screw him!

 
Broz_Tito 2007-02-19 08:03:27 AM  
George Washington sucks.
G.W. Bush rules. G.W.Bush is my idol.

 
Nabb1 [TotalFark] 2007-02-19 08:04:45 AM  
treemeat: wasn't "America's first action hero" known as "the village burner" by the first nations for all of his massacres?

He had to shake off that soft image he got after getting his butt kicked by the French, of all people, when he had his first military command at 21.

 
Wiih 2007-02-19 08:05:26 AM  
Washington would save the children... but not the british children.

 
D-D-D-Dave 2007-02-19 08:07:16 AM  
He threw a knife into a heaven!

 
Wiih 2007-02-19 08:09:15 AM  
...and could kill with a stare

 
Overfiend [TotalFark] 2007-02-19 08:10:47 AM  
Damn freemasons...

 
PC LOAD LETTER [TotalFark] 2007-02-19 08:14:47 AM  
I hear that George Washington is one of the few people that can defeat Chuck Norris in combat.

 
Dynascape [TotalFark] 2007-02-19 08:18:49 AM  
Highly recommend the book Faiths of the Founding Fathers by David Holmes. We read it in a History of American Religion class, and its funny to note how irreligious most of our founding fathers were.

Thomas Jefferson had his own personal bible where he'd black or cut out sections that didnt correspond to reason (mind you, this is in the throes of the Enlightenment).

 
thornhill 2007-02-19 08:20:13 AM  
Have people looked around this website? It's an evangelical site pretending to be fair and balanced. Look at the crap it's readers post:

Could Lack of Spirituality Lead to Crime?

There was a time when many people walked away from organized religion and decided to follow their own path. The problem being that their children had no [grounding] from which to find their spirituality. Church was the home of spiritual lessons and philosophy. Without any experience in church, where would these lessons in spirituality arise? How can a choice of religion and/or spirituality be made without any grounding upon which to decide?

Look around...many children are involved in crime, abuse, weapons, harm to one another and this is on the rise. Could the lack of spirituality in their lives have contributed? Just a thought....

 
Lerxst2k 2007-02-19 08:20:22 AM  
CAUTION: Rewrite in progress.

 
HappyDaddy 2007-02-19 08:21:22 AM  
Sir Cumference the Flatulent: From Washington's Farewell Address, 1796:


Isn't it interesting that the Farewell Address was a collaberation among Washington, Hamilton and Madison. Hamilton and Madison were probably the two Founders most responsible for the evolution of the two-party system.

I've mentioned this before, but people who think politics as "blood sport" is a recent phenomenon should read up on what was going on in the 1790's. Those people were brutal. Then again, the JQA/Andrew Jackson campaign was probably the most vicious.

Washington was our greatest President. No one else is a close second.

 
reillan 2007-02-19 08:22:22 AM  
CtrlAltDelete
Well I didn't vote for him.

You don't vote for kings.

 
Turdurkin 2007-02-19 08:24:29 AM  

 
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