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(Cinematical) Dumbass This explains a lot about the killing of our childhood memories: Lucas thought "Empire" was the worst Star Wars film   (cinematical.com) divider line 37
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Guntram Shatterhand 2007-02-10 11:50:21 PM  
Nice, but didn't we already know this when Lucas farked up that second trilogy of his?

 
ironpig 2007-02-10 11:50:22 PM  
Yup...That fits.

Empire has a whole different style then the other 5 movies (for obvious reasons).

Lucas knows what HE likes and that is reflected in the 5 weaker children in the family.

 
Botron 2007-02-10 11:56:33 PM  
Lucas was joking - poking fun ad the Sid guy. Chill.

 
Schrade 2007-02-11 12:12:54 AM  
Leia looked hot in her snow outfit. And Darth Vader rocked in Empire. He was all kinds of sinister and evil.

It was definitely the best movie out of the bunch and also the one I hold the fondest memories of waiting in line for.

Good ol' Century 22 in San Jose was so overloaded with people. Blankets spread all over the parking lot and people just having a good time. Ah, them's the good old days. I think I still have my ticket stub from that.

 
CrackedEgg 2007-02-11 12:14:47 AM  
Schrade
Yes, yes she did. Not as yummy as the metal bikini, but still pretty decent.

As for "Empire," far and away the best - who the hell wants a happy ending anyway?

 
mfaby 2007-02-11 12:21:12 AM  
I DONT think he was kidding.

The absolute SUCKAGE of four of the other five movies shows that George really has no idea how to put together a dramatic story arc nor how to write believable dialog for said arc.

While I give him VAST AMOUNTS of credit for having made American Graffiti and SW IV and V the rest of his canon is pretty damned awful; With SW he took a great idea and, overwhelmed by what he had created, lost the courage of his convictions and to turned to makinjg films that are either flat, cartoonish, overtaken by their CGI effects or any combination thereof.

George, youre rich! Too bad youre no longer any kind of engaging film maker.

 
bubbaprog [recently expired TotalFark] 2007-02-11 12:22:00 AM  
It... was a joke. Look at the context.

 
tango victor 2007-02-11 12:30:28 AM  
I prefer Jedi anyway... it's just better in some way.

 
The Duke of Carrot Flowers 2007-02-11 12:30:58 AM  
mfaby: While I give him VAST AMOUNTS of credit for having made American Graffiti and SW IV and V the rest of his canon is pretty damned awful; With SW he took a great idea and, overwhelmed by what he had created, lost the courage of his convictions and to turned to makinjg films that are either flat, cartoonish, overtaken by their CGI effects or any combination thereof.

Well, you forgot THX 1138.

/and Poland

 
cluNYC 2007-02-11 01:12:04 AM  
Traditionally, Empire has always been my favorite film. However, I watched it recently, and I've come to the conclusion that nothing happens in that film. It's all rising action, and very, very little story. I think my current favorite film in the series is Sith. Crazy, I know.

 
WhyteRaven74 [TotalFark] 2007-02-11 01:16:10 AM  
The Duke of Carrot Flowers: Well, you forgot THX 1138.

/and Poland


but I will not forget a new keyboard

 
neeners 2007-02-11 01:26:24 AM  
Schrade
I saw Empire at Century 22 also. Mad Winchester propz.

It was my favorite, too - if only for the getting warm in the guts of the Taun Taun scene.

 
baorao 2007-02-11 01:31:54 AM  
Empire is by far the best. Jedi was the worst of the first three, by far. Just watch it and take note of Han Solo. He has no reasonable part in the third. He adds literally nothing. He should have never been unfrozen. It was Harrison Ford's rising stardom that farked that up. The second (prequel) three don't even exist to me.

 
Syder 2007-02-11 02:16:16 AM  
Every year new things are brought to light that convince me more and more that Lucas is a talentless hack who hit it big with ONE thing and has been riding his 15 minutes for 30 years.

 
rga184 2007-02-11 02:28:04 AM  
I don't care about which movie is best. I'm just here hoping people will post picture of Leia.

 
wooden_nickel 2007-02-11 02:42:56 AM  
but you were the chosen one!!!111one!!

/not really

 
vaselinedean 2007-02-11 04:02:07 AM  
I hope when he dies, someone decides to remake them all and do them right.

And I hope it is soon.

 
AstroMech 2007-02-11 05:17:53 AM  
rga184: I don't care about which movie is best. I'm just here hoping people will post picture of Leia.

Done!

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Kyranis 2007-02-11 08:21:23 AM  
Not only does that not sound like a joke to me, but if it were me in the award recipient's shoes I'd have been pretty pissed he said that. I don't know, maybe if I heard it in the tone he delivered it that would fix it, but simply reading the words, it really sounds more like a slap in the face to this Sid guy than anything else.

 
kmill25 2007-02-11 09:59:44 AM  
I like ROTS also. It's the only Prequel, that I will publicly acknowledge exists.

 
thekingofhell 2007-02-11 10:11:22 AM  
Top ten things that I, as a talentless douchebag, would have done with Star Wars after Empire Strikes Back:

10.- No midichlorians, of course.

9.- Boba Fett is not a clone, just an awesome bounty hunter who got himself a Mandalorian Battle Suit in a flea Market. Jango Fett is pure mandalorian stock and both are not related, Boba fett's past remains a mystery.

8.-A complete rewrite of the scene before Darth Vader is made. Anakin, charred and mutilated, is found by Palpatine, who is surrounded by troopers, "Well, look at yourself, dog, you look like the biggest turd I've ever droppped. You are of no use to me, please die " Palpatine turns his back on him and Charred Anakin points a stub of flesh where his arm was and mentally chokes everyone around. Palpatine laughs; "Now we're talking! come." and the fully armored Darth Vader scene does no longer include the DO NOT WANT.

7.-Love triangle between Obi-wan, Anakin and Padmè. Anakin's jealousy is an integral part of his fall to the dark side and Obi-wan is fully responsible, and all because of a fine piece of blue-blooded ass. His garbling of the facts in episode four are because of guilt.

6.-Anakin slaughters Amidala in a fit of rage before Obi-wan's eyes. the royal showdown ensues.

5.-Boba Fett decides not to hang out with Jabba much longer, he continues preying upon rebellion targets and there is a big showdown between him and Han Solo, who he tracked to Endor.

4.-Anakin Skywalker is a teenager when found by Obi-wan. he is already a great pilot.

3.-Jar Jar binks is an anarchist primitivist who oposses Boss Nazz' regime based on his politics of racial hatred against the human squatters of Naboo (ruled by Amidala) and he is certainly not goofy. His distrust on institutions and his idealism makes him a puppet for Palpatine's ambitions anyways.

2.-Endor is inhabited by wookies, in episode three we get to return to the wookie planet.

1.-Luke and Leia are not brother and sister. Luke is certainly Anakin's and Padme's child, but Leia is Bail and his wife's child. Leia's mother plays an important part as a Harriet Tubman-like character who helps a few Jedi escape the Great Jedi purge.

Of course, I'm just a nerd who hasn't gotten laid in an important amount of time.

 
Jakevol2 2007-02-11 10:32:37 AM  
The main most important thing that would have helped the prequal trilogy above anything else. Anakin was not a whiny little asshole. Maybe an awkward and shy outcast with mad Jedi skills pursuded by a sexually agressive Padme but not what Lucas gave us. That speech about sand was creepy!

I would love LOVE, to find a fanfic site based souly on how the prequals SHOULD have been written. Does anyone know of any?

 
robsul82 [TotalFark] 2007-02-11 10:45:54 AM  
As someone who hates Star Wars, the only good moment in the three prequels is Ewan McGregor yelling "You were the CHOSEN ONE! Something something cast it into darkness!" Also the only good acting done by approximately ANYBODY in those three godforsaken movies.

 
raiden23 2007-02-11 11:40:49 AM  
When I was a child, it was the first movie I ever saw where the good guys did not win at the end. That blew my mind. No movie I've seen since has had such a profound effect on my life. TESB is the only reason Star Wars has any longevity - without it it would be just another sci-fi nostalgia memory from our collective childhood - like The Six Million Dollar Man. TESB elevated Star Wars to iconic status.

 
kmill25 2007-02-11 11:48:59 AM  
robsul82

As someone who hates Star Wars, the only good moment in the three prequels is Ewan McGregor yelling "You were the CHOSEN ONE! Something something cast it into darkness!" Also the only good acting done by approximately ANYBODY in those three godforsaken movies.

My favorite line in the movie.

Second?

"Are you threatening me?"

 
Horatio Hellpop 2007-02-11 12:02:34 PM  
baorao Empire is by far the best. Jedi was the worst of the first three, by far.....The second (prequel) three don't even exist to me.

What he said.

 
DirtySanta 2007-02-11 12:29:34 PM  
Lucas was joking, people laughed, get over it.

 
robsul82 [TotalFark] 2007-02-11 01:41:17 PM  
Nah, my second favorite -

Anakin saying something like "You wouldn't want to see the full effects of my POW-ER!" in an EXTREMELY constipated voice.

 
Darth_Lukecash [TotalFark] 2007-02-11 02:43:42 PM  
Oh for god sakes....


Lucas was joking.

He actually wanted the Kreshner of the Second to do the third, but for some reason he turned it down(This was from Kreshners view) He then wanted Spielberg to direct Jedi, but had a falling out with the Directors Guild-And Steven Spielbere didn't want to buck the system.

ANd now of course we have the millions of so-call fans complaining on how he "ruined" star wars

 
neener neener 2007-02-11 06:56:32 PM  
Star Wars is deader than... oh never mind.

 
pariah23 2007-02-11 08:44:22 PM  
Syder FTW. So true.

 
drredhook 2007-02-11 10:15:20 PM  
Without the Ewok parts, Return of the Jedi is my favorite.

 
Coelacanth 2007-02-12 12:19:34 AM  
Even Harlan Ellison liked Empire.

 
DjangoStonereaver [TotalFark] 2007-02-12 10:16:19 AM  
The reason Lucas hates ESB is that he did not get
on with Irvin Kirshner, who actually wanted to take
chances with the characters, and Lawrence Kasdan,
who also wanted to do things differently. Lucas,
being a control freak, hated the fact that they
wouldn't do exactly what he said, and probably also
hated that the film, artistically, was better for
it.

 
selfmedicating 2007-02-12 11:35:36 AM  
Future projects for George Lucas:

Star Wars IV: A New Hope (Remake)
Star Wars V: The Empire Strikes Back (Remake)
Star Wars VI: Return of the Jedi (Remake)
Star Wars I: The Phantom Menace (Re-master)*
Star Wars II: Attack of the Clones (Re-master)*
Star Wars III: Revenge of the Sith (Re-master)*

* Re-masters will replace dated CG effects with state-of-the-art stop-motion model work.

 
Handsome_John_Pruitt 2007-02-12 01:44:36 PM  
thekindofhell, I am intrigued by what you have to say and am interested in subscribing to your newsletter.

/not really
//just really wanted to use that line for the longest time

 
chechcal 2007-02-12 07:16:03 PM  
thekingofhell: 6.-Anakin slaughters Amidala in a fit of rage before Obi-wan's eyes

I always thought that should have happened, too. There was no ultimate act to show Anakin going to the Dark Side, and that would have been perfect. She has the kids, then she tells Anakin she had them aborted so that his evil wouldn't continue.

 
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