This type of activity sickens me. Just because you tie off someone's stomach doesn't mean they will lose weight. If they are not taking care of the underlying problem, then it is a waste of 25K.

/I'm fat.
//Oh yes, I'm fat.

It's the weekly Fat People Suck thread where everyone biatches about how much they hate fat people.

Good.

Fatties are why I don't support socialized medicine.

We should send them to fight in Iraq.

meh. We give kids pills to make sure they get up on time, go to sleep on time, pay attention to class, don't get too happy, don't get too sad....now we're stapling their stomachs to make sure they don't eat too much.

next up - gene therapy to weed out 'undesirable' traits before they're even born.

If you chained them to the basement floor with a turkey just out of reach, they would lose weight.

blehhbahrg

death rate of about 1 in 50.

damn, that I did not know that. Pretty heavy stat.

/had to

when you eat, eat less, eat mostly plants. Never eat anything your grand parents would not recognize as food. No fast food ever. Exercise more. Follow these rules and you will never need a gastric bypass.

/has lost 30 lbs since mid-December, going to lose 30 more.

Well, the money they save on food will pay for the surgery

IgG4

Follow these rules and you will never need a gastric bypass.

Nice try, but if Americans could follow rules, there wouldn't be anyone here but Indians.


Weaver95

next up - gene therapy to weed out 'undesirable' traits before they're even born.

Hear, hear. I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of therapy over the genes of man.

I'm hoping for brain-implant surgery next. The sooner, the better.

/HS Science teacher

oldebayer: Hear, hear. I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of therapy over the genes of man.

So if you had the chance to fix the gene that causes cystic fibrosis in your child you would pass on that?

CF on wiki

2007-02-04 03:13:27 PM Snocones
This type of activity sickens me. Just because you tie off someone's stomach doesn't mean they will lose weight.

Errm. Yes it does. They physically can't eat as much, and fatness is almost always about calorie intake versus output.

Not that I'm a fan of gastric bypass surgery, but it is effective.

jay_vee: They physically can't eat as much
They can try. And some do gain the weight back that way.

So if you had the chance to fix the gene that causes cystic fibrosis in your child you would pass on that?

I'm waiting for someone to figure out a way to use stem cells to cure homosexuality.

jay_vee: Errm. Yes it does. They physically can't eat as much, and fatness is almost always about calorie intake versus output.

Ermmm. No, sorry. Gastric bypass is NOT effective unless the person undergoing it actually makes permanent changes to their lifestyle. Despite the stomach stapling, people can actually overeat to the point where they stretch it out again. Then you've just wasted all the time, money, and trouble of going through and surgery that hasn't helped one bit.

IgG4: when you eat, eat less, eat mostly plants. Never eat anything your grand parents would not recognize as food. No fast food ever. Exercise more. Follow these rules and you will never need a gastric bypass.

You know what's so retarded about it? Those are the same rules doctors tell gastric bypass patients to follow after the surgery. If those people were actually willing to do that, they wouldn't NEED the surgery.

Weaver95: I'm waiting for someone to figure out a way to use stem cells to cure homosexuality.

I'm guessing you, Pat Robertson, and Fred Phelps will have a party then, right?

IgG4

So if you had the chance to fix the gene that causes cystic fibrosis in your child you would pass on that?

Nice trap, that. Truth is, I do in fact have some genes that shouldn't be passed on, and so, in the absence of therapy (which I may, at one time, have desired), I have chosen to have no children.

I may have been a little glib in my statement, but in general I am hostile to any notion that we can "improve" our species by weeding out undesirable traits. That is not evolution in action.

Also I have a cousin who underwent gastric bypass. Would have talked him out of it if I could have, but he seems fine with it, and has lost a lot of weight.

Where's the McDonald's pics already?!?!?!

/I thought someone would have posted them by now

I'm guessing you, Pat Robertson, and Fred Phelps will have a party then, right?

finding out that stem cells could cure homosexuality would be the WORST thing to happen to the religious right. It would also be a gut punch to the lefties pushing for unrestricted research.

In short, it'd be GREAT! Everyone would be offended!

clifton

Oh c'mon, is his statement not GLARINGLY ironic enough for you?

Weaver95: I'm waiting for someone to figure out a way to use stem cells to cure homosexuality.

My god, that was like a text-based Mobius Strip.

Randy Jackson from American Idol had gastric bypass a couple of years ago. Look at him now.

Charming_Man
Fatties are why I don't support socialized medicine.
We should send them to fight in Iraq.

Fatties make terrible soldiers. But we could drop them from planes and hope they go *splat* on turrists.

I have an idea. How about I market and sell a "weight loss injection" It's a shot you give a fat person. It will help them curve their eating and encourage general weight loss. The only catch is, if you keep eating excessively and don't exercise, the injection will kill you.

/placebo FTW!

ya know if people have no respect for themselves and don't have the will power to be above something like food then... i say, let 'em get so fat they all die of heart disease at the age of 25

and as for parents that stuff their children full of food, i say sue 'em for negligence (or pmita prison)

Actually, if a kid is determined to eat, s/he'll find a way. I used to make cookie-dough out of butter, sugar, and flour and keep it in an old Cool Whip container in my closet. I'd go eat it when I felt bad, was bored, my parents wouldn't let me eat something else I wanted. They never knew about it.

And my parents did try to curb my eating and make me exercise, but I didn't co-operate. They'd make me go outside and I'd sneak a book out with me and go sit behind the barn and read.

/was put on Slimfast by a Dr when I was 11 - didn't work
//wishes today I'd co-operated with my parents' efforts as I struggle with being obese now

if i ever have daughters, they're getting gastric bypass and breast implants before i bring them home from the hospital. i got standards, yo.

Because, obviously, you can't just tell your kid to put down that sammich and exercise

Actual parenting? In MY country? Not on my watch, pal.

FTFA

But improvements in surgical technique and huge increases in the number of dangerously obese children the realization that this type of surgery is very profitable has begun fueling a change of heart.

IgG4: /has lost 30 lbs since mid-December, going to lose 30 more.

I call shenanigans. Losing more than 2-3lbs a week is unhealthy. It took me almost 4 months to drop 30lbs, and that was 1500 calories a day, lifting 3 hours a week, and doing cardio 10 hours a week. Doing interval training, HIIT, and aerobics.

We've been going about this all wrong, this Ms. Stay Puft's okay, she's a sailor, she's in New York, we get this girl laid we won't have any trouble.

Wanted for questioning

crystal meth is cheaper way to loose weight than gastric bypass. So is crack.

I do believe that there is a severe difference between fat-no-exercise-fatty-mcfatfat and certain people who do have severe medical problems.

We've got some on Fark, we've had discussions before, and it happens. There are people who have a severe problem, and this type of thing can help them greatly. But they're the minority, that's being overshadowed by McFatFat.

Jesus, I mean, I'm 76.5inches. I played football/basketball/track in High School. Blew my knees out, bad, but didn't change my habits. A few years later, I'm 305/310ish. And yeah, very high body fat %.

Now? 204 pounds. Body fat % working on breaking into single digits. In six months, I made a decision. Lost 35 pounds, got knee surgery, lost 25 pounds, and joined the Army (and barely made the weight standard for ENTRY). Lost 50 pounds in Basic.

It's all about motivation. I now have PT 5 times a week with the company. I do PT on my own an addition 3-4 times.

Get out there and exercise. If you get something serious like this done, afterwards, change your habits. I don't drink soda anymore, I don't eat fast food, there's tons of crap I just straight said 'f no'.

Find your motivation. Then do pushups.

I was a fat fark as a child.. I think I was like 178 when I was 10, and I topped out at 306 when I was 22. I'm still fat, I'm about 230-240 now, but now it's mostly muscle and some fat, instead of some muscle and mostly fat.

Willpower goes a long way, and there's no magic diet that'll work for everyone who wants to lose weight. Basically you just have to WANT to lose the weight, truly want to, and you will eventually. there's no need for kids as young as 13 to get gastric bypass, just no need at all.

Old freind of mine in Montana had this done for his kid when he was 17. He needed it. It wasn't really the lack of exersize (they lived on a farm and the kid DID bust his ass every day) but the boy just couldn't control his appetite. He would just eat untill he literally couldn't hardly walk. He was strong as an ox and well over six feet tall. They had the surgery done and his boy lost over 200 lbs in about a year. Now, the kids a very healthy 240 lbs and can still set an auger with one hand. He even has a girlfreind now, and she's very cute.

Its not always the parents fault. The kid just ate like a horse and couldn't control it. His parents both tend to be on the heavy side so its something genetic. They're good folks, but farm work tends to encourage people to just fill their bellies when they can get the time so folks tend to wolf their food. There was some retraining with that for this kid. But he was the kind of boy that could probably throw a grand piano through a brick wall from the time he was 12 or so. Not kidding either.

Sometimes its just nessessary.

Ah, the usual farktard comments.

Honestly, you p[eople need to look a teh research hat is out her.

Try metabolic syndrome x, polycystic ovarian syndrome, several studies that indicate that life for some of the obese is not just too much TV and Doritos. Then compound that with a life of people reiterating the same dumbass arguments. If it was that easy, it would work. But for some of us it doesn't.

Obese people. CAn we have a neat filter term? Something on the lines of successful and attrative african-american, only
size related.

Cuz we me to be the last bastion for hate.



If you told a schizophrenic patient to 'normal up' dya think it would work?

question_dj: I call shenanigans.

Whatever. I was 239 on December 13 and I was 212 this morning. Don't know how I can really prove that but that's what it is. I was about 5 pounds a week for the first three weeks, then slowed to about 3 a week. I had a physical on Wednesday, and the doctor was very much OK with what I'm doing.

Doctor Funkenstein

Umm... what the FARK is that?!

My roommate was over 400 pounds at one point in his life - during his teens. He's 21 now. He got a gastric bypass this past summer and is now under 300 and still dropping. I barely ever see him eating and when he orders Chinese food, it lasts him for days. He doesn't have a real desire to eat too much. Of course, the biggest downside is what you just plain cannot injest, such as more than a drink of alcohol, sugary foods, and more. The food he misses the most is tiramisu.

Not all people with gastric bypasses are food-crazed basketcases. Some actually have the desire and drive to turn their lives around.

Susan Calvin: Cuz we me to be the last bastion for hate.

We thorough total look left then potato.

Point made, good, though east side west side, throw your hand in the heirs.

/way to proofread...er.....pruf reed....
//dumbass

What about parental bypass surgery? End the issue where is starts...

I like to smoke when I go for my daily run to McDonalds

mmmm, gastric bypass may convert people to drinking liquor instead of that horrible beer. I will subvert the population. MUHAHAHA

Eh, just send them grad school, best diet plan evar.

/down 20 lbs.
//Not even trying

Kids, you know, those people who are under 15, shouldn't have Gastric Bypass Surgery done, period. Unless a doctor checks the kid over and says "Yes, this kid DEFINITELY needs it".

I weigh in at about 300 or so right now. I've only recently decided to try and lose a few pounds, but saying "no" to the food you've loved so much for the last few years is hard. It all comes down to willpower, though. If I can sum up the will to say "No, I don't want that cheeseburger", then I just won.

Yeah, sorry about that dude.

my big fat fingers can't mash the keyboard fast enough to make corrections.

What I was trying to say say is that we are the last outlet for hate.

But in your case I could make an exception.

/ratbag

TrickyPG
Not all people with gastric bypasses are food-crazed basketcases.

If someone has hit 400 pounds by definition they are a food-crazed basketcase. Seriously, 400 pounds? That's approximately double (if not more) a person's normal weight. That's insane. I don't care what kind of genetic disorder you have, if you let yourself hit 400 pounds you're nuts.

Esn
Umm... what the FARK is that?!

Some fat kid that Maury Povich pimped to the crowd for his show. In my ongoing effort to make posts that are devoid of any content, I hit paydirt with this gem on a GIS hunt. Looks like some internet tube jugernaut photoshopped her into the get-up that the Stay Puft Marshmallow wore in Ghostbusters. Bravo, to whoever did it.

Note - if you've ever seen the clip of that fat kid bouncing and flailing around on the couch, which if you're here you've likely seen, that's her.