WWJD?

AirForceVet: WWJD?

No, you can't have five loaves and two fishes.
Not yours

Sir, can I have $2.00 for a sammich?
I dunno. Let's see the sammich.

But they keep stealing my pic-a-nic baskets.

Just pay them to beat the shiat out of each other on camera. Then they can buy their own food Thunderbird.

What a world. Reagan cut funding for mental institutions so now they're all on the streets. Bush 41 said 1000 points of light, kinder gentler, private people can take care of them. Now government says not so fast, don't be so nice, it'll just encourage them to be mentally ill around us, we want them to be mentally ill somewhere out of sight but we don't know where.

Sooner or later someone is going to get elected on a platform of remanding them to a slave auction.

Screw 'em. I have to deal with them every morning when I stop to get coffee. Most of them have learned not to bother asking me, but I still get at least 3-4 a week.

Why should I be penalized for your bad decisions just because I have a job?

CheezeAnvil
Why should I be penalized for your bad decisions just because I have a job?

Do you realize that many people who are homeless for reasons other than a big desire for some Thunderbird?

Control_this: Sooner or later someone is going to get elected on a platform of remanding them to a slave auction.



Meh, they're too crazy to be of any use. did I just say that out loud?!

/I have enough frequent GoingToHell miles to upgrade to Last Class!

Sounds like a tornado magnet to me.

Sooner or later someone is going to get elected on a platform of remanding them to a slave auction.

I'd like to announce my candidacy...

Mentally ill people are too stupid and physically inept to be slaves. It's better that we just grind them into a fine past to feed cattle. Humans can't transfer mad cow to cows, right?

Control_this Thats not true. The law was passed and signed by the Democrats and went into effect after he took office.

01:48:29 PM Control_this: What a world. Reagan cut funding for mental institutions so now they're all on the streets.

Sure Reagan cut the funding to mental institutions. That's because activists and their lawyers used the courts to spring all the addle-pated denizens who formerly inhabited them. I'd be all in favor of funding those institutions again if you promise to lock the crazoids up in them. But that ain't going to happen, because it would violate their rights to scrape them off the streets where they're free to biatch about how nobody will let them defecate in the bushes ,wash their clothes in the park sinks, and generally be nuisances and eyesores to the people who want to enjoy the facilities their taxes have paid for.

Soylant orange?

Yay, hobo flamewar!

I read that as a misspelling of Orland Park at first... yeah unless it's a news story about an exciting new store at the mall, nothing really happens here.

Feed The Homeless

I say we give them guns and airdrop them into Iraq or Afghanistan, if the ones claiming to be veterans are really veterans we might get some shiat done, or they are miserable liars and are going to die.

Control_this [TotalFark]
What a world. Reagan cut funding for mental institutions so now they're all on the streets.

It must be so pleasant to live in such a simplistic world of your own construction.

Feed The Homeless

To the Lions

Food Not Bombs rocks!

//have eaten more than a few good meals cooked up by FNB
//it's commonly known that homelessness skyrocketed after Reagan took power

LessO2
Do you realize that many people who are homeless for reasons other than a big desire for some Thunderbird?

Yes I do, can you explain which one of those reasons is my fault and thus my responsibility?

Does not approve

Phoenix_M Control_this Thats not true. The law was passed and signed by the Democrats and went into effect after he took office.

I was unaware that Reagan came into office after he supported the passage of (and signed) the Omnibus Reconciliation Act of 1981 (PL 97-35). Were you alive during this breakdown in the space/time continuum, or did Newsmax learn you yo' history?

CheezeAnvil: Yes I do, can you explain which one of those reasons is my fault and thus my responsibility?

Oh. One of them. Give Ayn a big kiss for me.

WillieStokes I was talking about when he was governor of california dumb fark.

The government of Orlando would like to remind all of its residents that this city is a major national tourist destination, and would those people too ugly, hungry, or destitute please remain indoors somewhere so that Walt Disney's dream of a perfect world can be preserved fifty-two weeks a year. Thank you.

cheeseAnvil:Yes I do, can you explain which one of those reasons is my fault and thus my responsibility?

While it certainly is no fault of yours, everyone has a responsibility to help those less fortunate than themselves.

/religion need not enter into the equation

as decent human beings we have an obligation to help others who for whatever reason cannot help themselves--children, the elderly, the mentally ill, etc.

the price for this is, of course, time, money, effort and dealing with the scam artists.

the actions of the city of orlando towards the homeless are draconian and despicable. this legislation shamefully targets the homeless and is a slap in the face of those trying to help.

shame on you, orando, fla.

What a world. Reagan cut funding for mental institutions so now they're all on the streets.

Yeah, but if they emptied the wards (as the libs like to say) in the early 80s those on the streets who can point the finger at Ronnie would have to be at least in their mid 40s. That is unless by some odd system we weren't aware of people were being locked away when they were 8 years old.

Not everyone which issues has to be locked away either. Most communities have outreach programs to help people get on their feet. The key is that they have to want to seek help.

Maybe if we didn't have to support every one swimming the damn Rio we could take care of these people more.

Stanfan114
as decent human beings we have an obligation to help others who for whatever reason cannot help themselves--children, the elderly, the mentally ill, etc.
the price for this is, of course, time, money, effort and dealing with the scam artists.
the actions of the city of orlando towards the homeless are draconian and despicable. this legislation shamefully targets the homeless and is a slap in the face of those trying to help.
shame on you, orando, fla.

First it is spelt Orlando. Perhaps spelling is no longer taught in Ca.?
Second we already have churches, welfare, government agencies out the wazoo to take care of them and illegals... exactly why should we pay more? The whole world does not look at things like SF does.
I think the next time one asks me for money I will give them a one way non refundable ticket to SF since you do not mind supporting them. I do mind.

Cheeseanvil:
Screw 'em. I have to deal with them every morning when I stop to get coffee. Most of them have learned not to bother asking me, but I still get at least 3-4 a week.

Awww, poor baby. Did the scary man ask you for money? What a horrible fate! Maybe if politicians did something to help them get off the streets, you could get your precious coffee in peace.

Why should I be penalized for your bad decisions just because I have a job?

a) How the hell are you getting penalized? You have the choice to say no when they ask for change.
b) They aren't necessarily on the streets due to their own bad decisions. Most of them are either mentally ill, or severely down on their luck. That's all society really is, anyway: a game of chance. You happened to come out on top, they didn't. You need not feel so entitled.
c) Shut up.

sorry, my wireless keyboard has been dropping letters. it's frustrating. i did spell it correctly earlier. ok?

first, i live in seattle and grew up in connecticut. i do not know where you got sf.

second, i'm not asking you to pay more. i'm against the kind of legisation your city has in place that targets a population that is already at huge risk.

thirdly, nobody is requiring you to be a decent human being either. just get out of the way of people who are trying to help.

Well, of course! People who are homeless deserve to be.

Dragonsbreath
First it is spelt Orlando. Perhaps spelling is no longer taught in Ca.?

Dude, he made a typo. This is Fark.com, not the Congressional Archives.

Second we already have churches, welfare, government agencies out the wazoo to take care of them and illegals... exactly why should we pay more?

Because we're not complete and utter bastards, that's why.

Obscure
Well, of course! People who are homeless deserve to be.

Most of the time, yes. They do. I pity the fact that they are so screwed up that they can't get at least some of their shiat together but hey... it's not that hard to get social assistance.

LessO2: Do you realize that many people who are homeless for reasons other than a big desire for some Thunderbird?

Like World of Warcraft, for instance.

Bumfights. They fight harder for a bottle of Vodka or a carton of cigs than food though......

Dragonsbreath
I think the next time one asks me for money I will give them a one way non refundable ticket to SF since you do not mind supporting them. I do mind.

Hey, can I borrow $20?

/haven't visited my sister there in years

How is it that some people get all pissed at the notion of caring for our nation's less fortunate while supporting the billions flushed down the terlet overseas?

Pheonix_MI was talking about when he was governor of california dumb fark.

Oh are you speaking of Reagan's '72 and '73 vetoes of the Short-Doyle Act that prevented the funding of the California Mental Services Act of 1969? I, for one, am confused on how you might have assumed that 1969 was not within his Gubenatorial terms of 67-75. Furthermore, I am also confused how you might mistake Reagan's veto of a Democrat proposed spending provision for the '69 mental heath act as "pro-mental health".

/snarkiness, as always, is offered "free of charge"

Damn, can't feed them, and can't shoot them, and sell them into slavery.
What are they going to do with all the homeless corpses in the park after they starve to death?

This is where humans have broken the natural order. In any other species, individuals that cannot take care of themselves end up eaten by predators. Except we killed off all our predators. So now we have to either just live with and accept these people wandering the streets harassing us for change, or take care of them somehow.
It's farking obvious ignoring them does not work.

Mogadishu, Ethiopia: Anyone remember those images from growing up? Crates of food shipped from around the world including here in the U.S. (never enough food, of course) not being distributed because of brutal animalistic warlords?

Here was all this food that hungry people needed, and others were willing to donate out of human decency but it was being withheld by others for their own selfish reasons.

This isn't a matter of someone asking or forcing you to help out. This is an issue of jerks like some of you preventing people who want to help from doing so. If the people who wanted to donate time and resources were allowed to do so that is one less bum asking you for a handout you creeps.

Cheese Anvil, Phoenix M, jjorset, castufari, Dragonsbreath, Jument, and others in no particular order. Go to hell. You owe your very existence to the civility and decency of other human beings who didn't "owe" you or at least some of your ancestors a damn thing. At some point in the history of your DNA someone got some help from someone who was just being a decent person. You're parent's didn't owe you life, and from your tenor and statements it seems like they might have made a poor choice in not smothering you to death at the first belch.

Looney Bin Argument and Social Security: No, it isn't that easy in all places to get on SSI especially if you have mental or substance abuse problems and not permanent address. Some places have advocacy groups to assist the homeless, but as you would know if you had read TFA some advocacy groups are being actively prevented from helping out these people.

And why the hell does someone have to be batshiat crazy to deserve some help?

Morans who can't figure out that letting someone do these people a solid out of the kindness of their own hearts and humanity actually keeps some of these bums out of your grill as you are about the important business of working phone support for some temp-to-hire company or cruizing for used video games downtown.

Either you guys are plain stupid or you have some sadistic desire to know there are people out there suffering for no good reason.

You nitwits probably believe that if the homeless were allowed to sleep on the ground and get free crappy soup once a day then people would just choose to live on the street because that sounds like such a sweet deal.

Again I say morans.

Jument

...it's not that hard to get social assistance.

Yeah, it is. I'm a social worker in the great state of Hawaii--you know, where it's warm, so being homeless can't be so bad. At least, that's the justification that other states use when they ship their homeless out here.

Now, there are a number of different programs out here to help the homeless. Rental assistance? 5 year waitlist. Transitional housing? 5 year waitlist. Shelters? Overfull, so you have to sit out from starting at 8am if you want to get in. Note that if you're sitting in front of the shelter for 10 hours in order to guarantee you have a bed, you probably aren't having a great deal of success with job hunting.

Oh, but what about social security or general assistance? You might actually be able to get those, without a permanent address. But getting your interviews scheduled, and getting to your appointments might be a little difficult. It might take you months where it takes another person weeks to get their benefits in pay.

If having an address is the main issue, your family might let you have the checks sent to their house, but they only acknowledge your existence a small fraction of the time. They probably have even have a TRO against you, since you're smelly and scary and you did try to sleep in your brother's car that one time. But this time, you got your check, so cash it and be happy. Nobody's going to complain when you walk into a bank or credit unions; your appearance and/or smell won't scare off their customers, so you'd never get run out of the building or anything. And if it did happen, you could always go to one of those check-cashing businesses, where they only take 5 - 20% of your money for the honor of cashing your check.

But maybe the bank did let you cash your check there. Maybe you should get a checking or savings account. Nobody's going to take a check without an address, so that's out. Maybe if you had an ATM card, you could take the money out that way. Except that process also involves getting materials mailed to you, so that's not going to work out. The only real option then is to carry cash.

Oh, but you sleep on the street, and your wall-safe was a little too heavy to bring with you when you lost your house. Fortunately, there's no one out on the street who would rob you or anything. The cash isn't even the worst part -- if they steal your ID and other documents, they can sell them to identity thieves for a few extra bucks.

But hey, you deserved to be on the street, anyway. You voted for Reagan and supported the push for deinstitutionalization. You didn't realize you'd have a psychotic break soon afterward, and that you were cutting services you would need. After all, it was your tax money getting wasted on those mentally-ill parasites who probably got themselves ill somehow, anyway.

After being through that, it seems like you're farked in just about every conceivable way. You can't even get your psychiatric medications anymore, not that you could ever hold onto them. All the methamphetamine addicts keep ripping off your Seroquel to help with their withdrawal symptoms, and, to be honest, you sold them your pills a few times to buy a jacket, a blanket, or to pay off the cop who was going to run you out of the park.

Oh well, the situation is shiatty anyway. You know what? Those ice addicts actually seem pretty happy, when they're not in withdrawal. What else do you have going for you? You might as well run with it.

xBodo99: Word.

It's one thing to not want to hand out your hard-earned cash to the less fortunate. That's your business. But for there to be legislation denying the rights of those who do wish to help out the homeless? Disgusting.

I've had some bad run-ins with homeless (not anything like getting robbed or the like, luckily) but I've also had some very good ones. Homeless people, as corny as it sounds, are people too. Treat others as you'd wish to be treated should you have been placed into their situation.

There are those homeless who just choose to be and don't bother trying to work. There are plenty who became homeless through no fault of their own, though, and would take a job in a heartbeat if it were offered.

This article makes me sad.

Jument
it's not that hard to get social assistance.

For some people that may be true, but people slip through the cracks in any system. Hell I know someone who did just due to beurocractic red tape about when exactly it was that his degenerative bone disease went from being a major inconvenience to being crippleing.


I know some people who are homeless because they are morons or scum(the scum can't keep a job because of their scummyness), but I'd rather give people the bennifit of the doubt and do what I can to help them out. I will end up helping the people who just needed a hand to get back on their feet, and I help keep the scum and morons from feeling forced into crime to survive(or atleast helps keep them from crime that will hurt others because of a 'what did they ever do to help me? They deserve what's coming to them.' mentality, and that keeps the community a little bit safer.
/yeah I know my spelling and grammar suck.