And if you guessed 90% of Europe and America and 100% of Canada doesn't give a farking damn about global warming right now because we're freezing our asses off, you get a shiny farking quarter.

China and India didn't either, which is worth noting. Not much point in doing anything if you can't them on board, too.

Churchill2004: China and India didn't either, which is worth noting. Not much point in doing anything if you can't them on board, too.

You could always set an example for others, rather than making excuses.

Why a dime?

Where's my dime, beotch?

rackrent: You could always set an example for others, rather than making excuses.


Meh. That's nice, except this isn't fourth grade, and other nations couldn't care less about how good an example you're setting.

Upon hearing this news, The U.S. Mint declares all Pennies still cost more to produce than what they are worth. The 'Shiny-ness' costs extra, of course. Will provide more jobs in the long-run,however. All applicants must be able to 'doggie-paddle'.

I'm an environmental studies major, I vote Green Party when it won't swing the election, I'm a vegetarian, etc.

That said, I farking hate China. India, too, but especially China, and if they're going to destroy the Earth, I want the U.S. to be kicking their ass the whole way down.

I accept all major credit cards through Paypal.

/where's my dime?

I'll see your shiny dime and raise you a French news caster.

I'm an environmental studies major, I vote Green Party when it won't swing the election, I'm a vegetarian, etc.

How does the above preclude the below?

That said, I farking hate China. India, too, but especially China, and if they're going to destroy the Earth, I want the U.S. to be kicking their ass the whole way down.

Why the hate? Jealous?

Churchill2004: That's nice, except this isn't fourth grade, and other nations couldn't care less about how good an example you're setting.

Good point...how about the "World's Most Powerful Country" taking the lead on a really important issue and biatch slapping other countries for not toeing the line?

That works, too.

Does anyone know where to find the full list of those 45 countries?

I'll bet Canada is going to join eventually if it hasn't already - public opinion seems to be swinging to environmental causes because of Mr. Dion, and all of the major parties (even the Conservatives) are trying to outdo each other. How long it'll last is anybody's guess.

rackrent: Good point...how about the "World's Most Powerful Country" taking the lead on a really important issue and biatch slapping other countries for not toeing the line?


How exaclty do you propose we biatch-slap China and India?

The only way to do it would be economic sanctions, which, ironically, Europe would never get behind.

Bring back the Ice Age? I'd rather be sleding to work than running the AC all day... yeah right. We have had 18 global warmings in the last 2 million years so what makes people think they can stop a cycle that repeats about every 100,000 years sometimes killing 30-75% of all life on earth each time? The earth can fix anything that gets thrown at it ( well our sun going supernova should end the debate on GW).

AstroMech
Hehehee niice.

All others:
I would like to know what France's swamp-gas output is. I cannot deny that the U.S.'s is huge! (TFA stated 1/4 of total world output, i think) How does china/India rank?

Maybe one of you more knowledgeable Farkers would please post a 'trust-worthy' graphic early and soon, we could avoid a whoooole bunch of random ridiculous back and forth.

My thanks in advance:
/beerslashies

rackrent: how about the "World's Most Powerful Country" taking the lead on a really important issue and biatch slapping other countries for not toeing the line?

So you want us to be the world police?

How are we gonna "biatch slap" them when they don't toe the line?

Up next, the daily debate on whether or not global warming is even occuring. Please post the "Not this shiat again" guy.
Kthx.

MalvolioMandarin

Maybe one of you more knowledgeable Farkers would please post a 'trust-worthy' graphic early and soon, we could avoid a whoooole bunch of random ridiculous back and forth.





/you're welcome

Buahhawhahhawhhaa Yeaeeeargh! THat is some DAMN fine info there me bucko! :P

There's no question that global warming is occuring anymore. NOW the debate seems to be about whether it's possible for humans to stop it.

But everyone agrees that if it's not stopped, the results for the world will be disastrous.

Personally, I'd argue that even slowing it down would be a nice goal. To give species time to adjust, and all that...

rackrent: Good point...how about the "World's Most Powerful Country" taking the lead on a really important issue and biatch slapping other countries for not toeing the line?

We can't even biatch slap other countries for human rights violations or general ass-clownery without facing the judging finger points of the rest of the world. How could we justify to the UN that we need to invade a country becaus they won't implement a solid environmental improvement package?
We have found that sanctions don't work eg; Cuba and Iraq. The rich stay rich and the poor simply starve to death. Only the threat of invasion and deposition gets the attention of dictators and other wonderful fascist leaders.

"You could always set an example for others, rather than making excuses."

And so could nations like India and China.

Or is only the US allowed to be bashed in this thread as the title would suggest?

why does America hate the planet?

rackrent: You could always set an example for others, rather than making excuses.

That's great advice for the first lemming in line.

Churchill2004:

How about we stop the games of "Well they aren't doing it, so why should we?" and do a little bit to help the environment. I know that some "scientists" are saying that the current global warming trend is part of a cycle, and that there is nothing that we can do about the cycle. What if they are wrong? What is the cost of them being wrong? I would say the cost of them being wrong is a LOT higher than them being right.

I know that that proves nothing, but here in Italy this winter has been more like spring. We have had perhaps 10 days of cold weather, if at all, since november. Almost no snow until last week, and many trees have already bloomed.

Rain has also been scarce, and several glaciers haven't had the time to grow bigger, so once spring actually comes they might very well shrink much more than usual.

Of course, they may be periodic and perfectly natural shifts, but they sure make you wonder...

BUT BUT BUT LEFTISTS WAAAH

The liberal so-called laws of physics are clearly BIASED against decent God-fearing Americans.

IBelieveItsYogurt: How about we stop the games of "Well they aren't doing it, so why should we?"

Because if everyone doesn't do it, our economy gets hurt for nothing.

I have the solution to Global Warming. It is very simple too.

Outlaw and ban Volcanoes.

Any offending Volcanoes found to be spewing billions of tons of ash and dirt into the air in an amount far greater than the combined pollution output of the entirety of man will be fined.

Simple right?

Esn: There's no question that global warming is occuring anymore. NOW the debate seems to be about whether it's possible for humans to stop it.

When the REAL debate should be "Why is Global Warming a Bad Thing again?"

But everyone agrees that if it's not stopped, the results for the world will be disastrous.

Because when you plot the advance of human civilization against global mean temperature you see that humans thrive when it's cold, and shrivel up and die when it gets warm.

Wait. Strike that. Reverse it. Thank you.
/wonka

Because if everyone doesn't do it, our economy gets hurt for nothing.

Poor diddums. You could easily defray the cost of Fixing This shiat by, I dunno, not spending several billion bucks a week in corporate graft to Haliburton etc.

Wait ... I think I heard a leftist in the wainscotting! GOD HELP US

Dear Boston Globe, that was a horribly uninformative article, unlike this one.

See? That one actually mentions that what you describe as a "climate group" and an "environmental body" would actually be a United Nations agency. Yeah! Another layer of unaccountable bureaucracy! That always works! Next time, why not at least mention the UN somewhere in TFA?

Plus, it also adds Russia and Brazil to the countries not supporting this, so what's the friggin' point?

MrBigglesworth: I have the solution to Global Warming. It is very simple too.

Outlaw and ban Volcanoes.

Here's another easy solution, a bit easier to implement: paint your roof white. That way it will reflect heat rather than absorb it, thus reducing global warming to an extent:

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/12/white_roofs_to.php

C'mon, Greenies! Go White Power! W00t!

I think some people would, if the UN declared the sky to be blue, glue green contact lenses onto their actual eyeballs out of spite, and then log on to LGF or FreeRepublic to call for the execution of blue-thinking treasonous commie traitors.

At least, that's the impression an antipodean gets from Fark.

More left wing propaganda. Everyone knows thar are more than 17 pirates around nowadays.

Churchill2004: Because if everyone doesn't do it, our economy gets hurt for nothing.


And how, exactly, would improving the environment hurt our economy? We make more fuel efficient cars and people stop buying them? If you paid attention, you would have seen Toyota and Honda are kicking our butts right now.

MrBigglesworth [TotalFark]
Outlaw and ban Volcanoes.

Any offending Volcanoes found to be spewing billions of tons of ash and dirt into the air in an amount far greater than the combined pollution output of the entirety of man will be fined.

Let's be sure cosmic rays are on the ban-list too. Those suckers can wreak havoc on an atmosphere.

Death By Monkey: SILENCE. OBEY. CONSUME.

doctechnical When the REAL debate should be "Why is Global Warming a Bad Thing again?"

Well Australia's current 5 year drought for a start. Here is something to think about: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6065220.stm

2007-02-04 06:21:39 AMLamune_Baba

Never heard of music piracy then? I think you're graphi is drastically underestimating the number of pirates in the world!

how about the "World's Most Powerful Country" taking the lead on a really important issue and biatch slapping other countries for not toeing the line?

If we bomb them into the stone age, their industrial production will plummet, people will die, and global warming will be SOLVED!

We could use another Medieval Warm Period.

Less snow, growing more crops, healthier people, awwwww, that's the life!

Death By Monkey: And how, exactly, would improving the environment hurt our economy?

We increase the cost of goods to the point where no one buys them so companies start producing them over seas in places like...oh...I don't know.....someplace that doesn't have such strict environment policies.....like....China maybe?

log_jammin: o you want us to be the world police?

Ya'll see, that's what we here call sarcasm. The U.S. has been doing a good pretending to be the "world police" in that whole Middle East thing.

To me, it's hypocritical of them to say we want to be the only superpower, but use the excuse of "well, other countries don't like it either!"

There's you're lemmings to the cliff analogy.

log_jammin: We increase the cost of goods to the point where no one buys them so companies start producing them over seas in places like...oh...I don't know.....someplace that doesn't have such strict environment policies.....like....China maybe?

I'm not sure I get your logic. Are you saying that we don't already buy our electronic devices from Japan?

auschunky: Well Australia's current 5 year drought for a start. Here is something to think about:

Thus quoth the page:

With the drought now in its sixth year, Australia's big dry is the worst in over a century.

Implying there was a nastier drought over a century ago. Which would coincide with the introduction of the Ford Explorer, right?

Jesda: If we bomb them into the stone age, their industrial production will plummet, people will die, and global warming will be SOLVED!


It seems a lot of people in this thread actually believe that.

/shakes head