Is that a feature on Cingular?

Personally, I welcome our new teenage asshat overlords.

I like this. I'll just sit back on my ass with some popcorn and watch the world turn to shiat.

/I should have gone to law school.

isn't 18 a grown up? still, it's assault (having one of those ovese american moms sit on you must be hell), but not "abuse".. there's no need for all that drama

Mom was intruding on her personal life?

Kid should had that phone stuffed down her throat. Take a picture of her esophagus.

SITTING ON HER?! oh what a load of crap! i thought mom was beating her, or burning her with cigarettes, or some shiat like that. "...mommie was intruding into my personal business." what a little prick of a girl.

Ohhh! Her mom sat on her to restrain her! How horrible.

No clue...will get one when her own worthless little crotch droppings pull the same shiat on her 16 years from now.

Because a picture always tells the whole story...

What do today's teenagers do if they are being abused by the GOP?

/Family Values, yea, right!

She sat on her, admittedly I am assuming something had to happen to get into that position, I am not sure that it is physically abusive. If you're an eighteen year old who shouts back at their parents then you're already a dick, and when you're thought is to call 911 and snap photos then you're probably fairly abusive yourself.

I think it's a DAMN good thing she took the picture. For all we know, the abuse could have been MUCH worse than the picture says. Abuse is abuse people. "restrain her" my ass...there are other ways to do it. I wouldn't trip so much if she slapped her, but pinning her down crosses the line!

I think this girl should spend a week with a broken family, and learn what real abuse is. Maybe after a black eye, cigar burns, and a couple snapped ribs she'll learn to appreciate her mother more. Little twat.

Since she's 18, I'd show her the door, give her 400$ starting cash, and tell her to start supporting herself. Then she can enjoy her personal life all she wants, when she gets back from the 2 jobs she's working.

18 years old? Start charging rent.

She doesn't pay? Evict her.

Fights the eviction? Have her abducted by the sex slave trade and let her live her veneral-disease-ridden life out on the streets of a distant international city. Obviously the little shiat's not worth much, but get what you can for her while she's still got some value.

It sounds like a good plan to me.

Ok, she IS 18 and should be out the house. But abuse comes in many different forms, and believe me there are far worse physical beatings out there. But still,the mother was wrong. I don't think the daughter was taking the picture just to whine about how she doesn't get her way.

I have sat on jury duty more than once for some kind of domestic situation, and I will *never* EVER believe photgraphic evidence again. Not since I've seen what unmotivated, idle, ambitionless Farkers can do with photoshop. Some cameras can even do a certain amount of editting directly to the photo, such as making that tiny, pinkish blotch look red and almost bloody. Once the photo's outa the camera and in a computer, then it's no more "evidence" than a cartoon drawn in crayon. (with apologies to heamer)

Wait, you're supposed to get booted o the butt when you urn 18? So, no more living at home, period? Not even if she's a high school senior? What about a college student?

Granted, sitting on her isn't a huge thing, it's abuse nonetheless. I do know, however, if I get smart with my folks, they bring back to earth in a hurry, with their list of "no mores."

/No more cell phone on their plan.
//No more use of gas card for savings on fuel.
///No more GF there, because my arese will be on the curb.
////No more health insurance.
//No more fun.
\No more thinking outside of the box.

Why the Florida tag?

I give that teenager a 'hero' tag.

There is never any reason to hit or abuse anyone, especially your own child, UNLESS there is clear evidence of imminent mortal danger. Sounds like Mom didn't have that.

I Wish I had had a cell when I was a kid, the farktard foster parents I lived with would still be in jail for the crap they pulled on me if I had this kind of evidence.

Was the mother sitting on her face?

/Fap

2Ah: I didnt see a pic.
Is the mother like 500lbs?
THAT would be abuse.

As much as I was trying to imagine this scenario thinking it would be hot, I don't think this was an attractive ass if it warranted a police call.

If she hates her mom so much, why is she still living with her?

I lived with my mom and step dad 'til I was 21, and things were far worse for me. My step dad would threaten to attack me if I didn't do what he wanted, so we were constantly ready to beat the holy fark out of each other. That and he stole massive amounts of money from me, put bills in my name, never paid them, destroyed my credit, made me pay half on a car I could never use...shall I go on? Abuse? Hardly.

Well, if the mom was sitting on the teen's ribcage with all her weight, yeah, that'd be abuse: I'd like to see you breathe with a hundred to a hundred and fifty (or more!) pounds on your lungs. However, if the mom was sitting on her the way I sit on my toddler for a diaper change--ie, straddling the torso with 99% of the mom's weight on the mom's own knees--then that's just restraint of a brat.

I was going to put "bratty kid", but at eighteen, you're legally an adult. Get out of the house, teen brat: act like an adult and you'll be treated as one.

csdebaser: I lived with my mom and step dad 'til I was 21, and things were far worse for me. My step dad would threaten to attack me if I didn't do what he wanted, so we were constantly ready to beat the holy fark out of each other. That and he stole massive amounts of money from me, put bills in my name, never paid them, destroyed my credit, made me pay half on a car I could never use...shall I go on? Abuse? Hardly.

Should have left when you were 18.

There was a case of a teacher hitting a student in South Korea last year. another kid in the class recorded the video and posted it online.

/ha.

wotnartd
No, you're not automagically supposed to get booted out of the house when you turn 18... unless you're a disgrace to your family, in which case, it's their prerogative to evict you. It's tough, for sure, but it's certainly not abuse. What's the alternative for the parents of a child who's out of control?

unicornrider
I'm certainly not going to say that all foster parents are good, because some certainly are evil. Children placed with evil foster homes certainly deserve a great deal of sympathy, but that is not the case here. This woman was 18, and as an adult if she didn't like her parents' rules, she should have left.

Did her parents overreact? Maybe. But working with teenagers has shown me that some are sneaky, devilish, lying bastards who are not above staging a scene to get their way.

"I lived with my mom and step dad 'til I was 21, and things were far worse for me. My step dad would threaten to attack me if I didn't do what he wanted, so we were constantly ready to beat the holy fark out of each other. That and he stole massive amounts of money from me, put bills in my name, never paid them, destroyed my credit, made me pay half on a car I could never use"

Hahahahaha!

csdebaser:

Yeah, I was living with my parents till 20, and they pulled some similar shiat, though it was more mental and emotional abuse than anything else.

The girl was 18. Legally adult. A that point, the parents can't touch her. She has all the rights of an adult. If the mother was feeling that threatened, she should have called the police. I guarantee things would have turned out a whole lot differently.

Thee is no excuse for that mother's behavior. None. I wish I'd had a cell phone or mp3 recorder, and a blog, 15 years ago. Maybe I wouldn't have called the police, but I would have blown all of our family's secrets wide open.

This is not an argument about corporal punishment. That is a red herring. This is an argument about whether parents can touch a child when they become an adult. The answer to that is clear-cut and obvious.

Villain:

Should she have left? Probably. But that doesn't excuse the mother at all.

And while you are correct about the "evict" part, many things can make one a disgrace to one's family, and with some of those things... it should never get to the point of eviction - the "child" should leave on their 18th birthday and flip their middle finger as they go.

IE, being gay.

Parents should have the same rights to restrain their children as mental health workers have to restrain disturbed patients.

We have given far too much power to children, and done far too much to restrain the world around us for their protection.

I agree with George Carlin, "And what's all this sh*t about children nowadays? 'Save the children!' 'Help the children!' 'What about the children?!' Well you know what I say? F*CK the children! F*ck 'em! They get entirely too much attention already."

THis is nothing! When I was a kid my parents used to shoot me in the face when I was bad! This kid doesn't know what things are REALLY like for us tough, abused, from-the-streets Farkers.

"Sigh..."

Your opinion is as unbalanced as that of those who drop their kids off at the shopping mall for hours and leave them to their own devices, and think that's OK.

ets2104:

I'm glad your childhood was good enough that you can afford to be sarcastic with those who were not so lucky. I'm glad that your parents taught you such great values of empathy and concern for your fellow man. They cerainly riaised your right, and I commend them for bringing up such a fine example of humanity.

LMFAO HOMOHABLIS!!!!!

/g'job for make me laff :-]

dumpstergirl:
Since she's 18, I'd show her the door, give her 400$ starting cash, and tell her to start supporting herself.

Nice, not even the first & last on half an apartment. A well-thought-out post, indeed.

duskglow2000

Assuming that the child did not hit the mother first or otherwise intentionally provoke her, of course it's inexcusable. The key word here is assuming. We don't know; all we have is a photo and not any reliable information leading up to it.

And regarding it never getting to the point of eviction, you're assuming that the child is mature and responsible. A responsible young adult who chafes under his/her parents will leave at the earliest opportunity to take care of him/herself. It's the brats who don't, and they more often than not create their own drama and inflict it on their families.

No Such Agency:

That does depend on where you live. That's really close to good rent on a basement apartment in a small Iowa town.

However, that said, dumpstergirl is living up to her nick.

This young woman obviously needs her freedom.

Freedom to do as she pleases.

Freedom to work her ass off so she has money to buy food.

Freedom to work her ass off so she has a bed to sleep in.

Freedom to work her ass off so she has clothes to wear.

Freedom to work her ass off so she has a car to drive.

No Such AgencyNice, not even the first & last on half an apartment. A well-thought-out post, indeed.

I was on my own at 15 without anybody providing me with an apartment.

Villain:

If you had read what I said, you would have read that I said it should never get to the point of eviction because the child should have already left.

True we don't know. But we have a photo of the mother sitting on the child, and no marks on the mother. If I were a cop, I'd consider that sufficient evidence to bring the mother in too, and leave the daughter.

However, if I were the daughter, I'd be out of that house by the time she got out of jail.

Nightjars:

Sorry to hear that - but is that by any means normal?

I can't think of any 15 year old coming from a decent family who would seriously consider that.

So the general idea coming from some farkers is that this amount of abuse is okay because those farkers got it far worse.

Now let's try this, replacing abuse with rape:

Bnoiushdflkmgoihrg:
She got raped one time by her father. She should learn what real abuse is. I was raped every morning by my father and every night by my mother. They would stick pineapples in me and give me ipecac because they said I was fat.

Sometimes you just gotta rape your kids to show you that you love them.

Just because you got it far worse doesn't make her situation any better or make a little in moderation okay.

I bet Mom is regretting getting her kid a camera phone.

*sigh*

duskglow2000
Sorry to hear that - but is that by any means normal?

I can't think of any 15 year old coming from a decent family who would seriously consider that.

Well, seeing as that only life I have ever lived is my own, i'd have to say it's perfectly normal..?

llamalord:

In fact, I would think that those who got it far worse would have a higher amount of sensitivity to this than those who were brought up in a good home.

You know, empathy and all that.

But then those who weren't are generally screwed up anyway. Myself included, to a degree. I'll admit it.

duskglow2000

Anyone who looks at the status quo and thinks it is "balanced" is off their frickin rocker and completely detached from reality.

We need more "unbalanced" people to get the see-saw back to center and not so high it is shoved up your arsehole.

Kids are safer today in every statistically measurable way, and still people demand more and more accomodations for them and people are more and more fearful for their children today than perhaps ever before.

Thank goodness I wasn't raised by an over-protective, helicopter parent like you apparently feel is best.

When my peers were kids, we were out and about far from home from the first grade on. There were lots of us too, out playing in the fields, woods, streams, playgrounds, and all around the neighborhood, alone without parental supervision. We did not have leashes or GPS trackers either.

We were far better off than the coddled children of today, virtual incapable of organizing themselves to wipe their own noses without adult supervision.

And yes, from about 12 on (middle school aged), a great many of us hung out at the mall, all on our own.

Nightjars:

That's kind of where you have to look outside yourself, acknowledge that other people do indeed have a different background than you do, and that your background may be the abnormal one.

Don't get on me too hard for that observation, I've had to do something similar.

Why the hell are you people attacking the child? The girl did the right thing, the mother is the one who crossed the line by attacking her own child.

"Sigh..."

Wow, you built up a nice strawman with that.

Never have I said that an overprotective parent is best. I feel that many to most parents are too protective as it is. You're putting words into my mouth.

I do feel that children do need some specific protections however. Protection from abuse, protection from mistreatment from adults, and protection from idiots who want to take advantage of them. So... are you going to argue with that?

Frankly, it's a stupid arument anyway - this daughter was farking 18, and this is an adult. Your argument doesn't even farking apply to her...

duskglow2000:

It be "abnormal" does not invalidate its subjective value. Its when things are tough that you truely test your character and find out who you are, and who you become when the necessities of life are not guaranteed.

Do I advocate 15 year olds leave their home just because circumstance caused me to no longer have a home at 15? Of course not! Do I think 18 year olds who stay at home yet complain that living with their parents sucks are pathetic? Sure do!