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(IndyStar) Asinine Liberal academia now punishing students for comments they post on web blogs, even when they post from their home computers   (indystar.com) divider line 443
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Whamdangler 2006-10-01 10:18:28 AM  
I'll post "I'd love to shoot submitter in the face" from my home computer.

 
flaEsq [TotalFark] 2006-10-01 10:30:08 AM  
If you can't change your own diaper shrubmitter then just call up waaahmbulance, they'll help

 
2wolves 2006-10-01 10:48:49 AM  
Looks like subby put his pantyhose on backwards this morning. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

 
Mordant [TotalFark] 2006-10-01 10:50:04 AM  
Note to "conservatives", next time you rise to complete power and control the entire government don't forget to also take over the media and the education system. Leaving these vital links in the hands of the evil "Libs" will constantly be a thorn in your sides otherwise.

 
floor9 [TotalFark] 2006-10-01 11:07:54 AM  
Well, I was going to come in here and post about what a cocknozzle submitter was, but I see she's already been thoroughly pwnt. Good show.

 
Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2006-10-01 11:09:30 AM  
This doesn't concern anyone?

 
thelunatick 2006-10-01 11:12:37 AM  
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1) - Cite This Source
lib‧er‧al /ˈlɪbərəl, ˈlɪbrəl/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[lib-er-uhl, lib-ruhl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
-adjective
1.favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.
2.(often initial capital letter) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.
3.of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism.
4.favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, esp. as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties.
5.favoring or permitting freedom of action, esp. with respect to matters of personal belief or expression: a liberal policy toward dissident artists and writers.
6.of or pertaining to representational forms of government rather than aristocracies and monarchies.
7.free from prejudice or bigotry; tolerant: a liberal attitude toward foreigners.
8.open-minded or tolerant, esp. free of or not bound by traditional or conventional ideas, values, etc.
9.characterized by generosity and willingness to give in large amounts: a liberal donor.
10.given freely or abundantly; generous: a liberal donation.
11.not strict or rigorous; free; not literal: a liberal interpretation of a rule.
12.of, pertaining to, or based on the liberal arts.
13.of, pertaining to, or befitting a freeman.
-noun
14.a person of liberal principles or views, esp. in politics or religion.
15.(often initial capital letter) a member of a liberal party in politics, esp. of the Liberal party in Great Britain.
[Origin: 1325-75; ME
Please learn the meaning of the word

 
SoiledDude 2006-10-01 11:13:45 AM  
Weaver95: This doesn't concern anyone?

It outrages me, however, I can understand the above responses seeing how the submitter decided to inject some unneeded politicizing in the headline.

 
vartian [TotalFark] 2006-10-01 11:34:47 AM  
Weaver95

This doesn't concern anyone?

Of course, but if submitter actually expected a discussion on the topic he would have presented it sans the liberal shot.

 
thelunatick 2006-10-01 11:42:10 AM  
Weaver95

This doesn't concern anyone?



Big time, but as everyone else said, if it was presented as Certain academia now punishing students for comments they post on web blogs, even when they post from their home computers Instead of Liberal it might work. Or if the Ironic tag was there because what is happening is the opposite of what a liberal stands for.

Instead Subby had to drink cool-aid before posting

 
halfloony 2006-10-01 11:42:43 AM  
Weaver95: This doesn't concern anyone?

Well from reading the article it mostly about sexual harrasment, stalkin , bullying and racist remarks made by students.


I did not know these are the cornerstones of Conservative values.

The more you know

 
thelunatick 2006-10-01 11:47:43 AM  
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con‧serv‧a‧tive /kənˈsɜrvətɪv/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kuhn-sur-vuh-tiv] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
-adjective
1.disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.
2.cautiously moderate or purposefully low: a conservative estimate.
3.traditional in style or manner; avoiding novelty or showiness: conservative suit.
4.(often initial capital letter) of or pertaining to the Conservative party.
5.(initial capital letter) of, pertaining to, or characteristic of Conservative Jews or Conservative Judaism.
6.having the power or tendency to conserve; preservative.
7.Mathematics. (of a vector or vector function) having curl equal to zero; irrotational; lamellar.
-noun
8.a person who is conservative in principles, actions, habits, etc.
9.a supporter of conservative political policies.
10.(initial capital letter) a member of a conservative political party, esp. the Conservative party in Great Britain.
11.a preservative.
[Origin: 1350-1400;

Just to clairfy before the flame wars start now that this got the green light.


Anyone else feel the Web has become one big brother type thing?

 
EnoMan 2006-10-01 12:05:44 PM  
This has a certain feel to it.

Hmmm.

Like...an attempt at redemption? Like, "I'm sorry I've been critical of the leadership, I'll atone by submitting trolling headlines to prove I have more contempt for the evil opposition."

Close?

If you think the Carmel school administration is liberal, you truly have no farking idea what you are talking about, and need to sit the fark down and shut the fark up.

 
Lionel Mandrake [TotalFark] 2006-10-01 12:12:04 PM  
An important story. Too bad it was falsely and stupidly presented as a partisan issue.

 
happydorkgirl 2006-10-01 12:19:21 PM  
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/ready

 
JohnnyC 2006-10-01 12:30:31 PM  
submitter:

I know this is going to be very hard to understand... I will attempt to use small words to make feel more comfortable.

You are an idiot.

Okay... just to be sure you understood, I'll re-phrase (that means I'll say the same thing a different way).

You are a moron.

And finally... one last little bit that will express my thoughts about you but this time I'm going to use 'grown up words', so get your dictionary out.

Your misguided sentiments are exceeded only by your lack of comprehension of what it means to be an American.

I would wish you good luck, but it would be an empty gesture on my part, so I'll just say DIAF. Especially since I don't want to be disingenuous.

 
muninsfire 2006-10-01 01:23:57 PM  
Maybe subby was trying to be snarky and submitted the headline thinking nobody would take it seriously?

 
Sliding Carp [TotalFark] 2006-10-01 02:30:31 PM  
A. High school is very rarely thought of as either 'Liberal' or 'academia'

B. One of the jobs of the high school system is to teach kids. Some of those idiots seriously need a good teaching.

C. (or B-1) Maybe the punitive approach to trying to teach about the consequences of actions isn't the best at this point in the kids' development.

B-2 (or D) But it beats the snot out of the other common alternative of lawsuits and prosecution that the kids might easily get instead.

Rebelling implies a force to rebel against - otherwise it's just game-playing. A force implies you might get smacked. Learn to deal with it or learn to whine, or learn to keep your rebellion more subtle.

 
mr_crash_davis 2006-10-01 02:46:20 PM  
Web blogs? As opposed to paper blogs?

 
m0llusk [TotalFark] 2006-10-01 03:01:29 PM  
Say it! Say it! Liberal Academia-Facists! Libera-facists for short. They want us to tolerate change and stuff. And they lower the grade for grammar errors!

 
JerseyTim [TotalFark] 2006-10-01 03:28:02 PM  
I'm thinking that, muninsfire. Maybe liberal was meant to be ironark.

 
40oz_A_Knight 2006-10-01 03:34:55 PM  
It was bad enough when schools in the area I grew up in decided that they would try to punish kids for underage drinking over the weekend if they happened to also be interested in playing sports. Now this happens. Fire every administrator at this school, and then take a hatchet to every single bureaucratic piece of crap that wants this sort of action to provide jobs for a new generation of over-reaching pantywaists.

 
plutonium238 2006-10-01 03:36:37 PM  
IT HAS BEGUN!

 
stpickrell 2006-10-01 03:37:13 PM  
Why can't we hold students to the same standards that co-workers are held to?

Would it be sexual harassment to post a MySpace profile about how I want to bone (fill in random coworker here) and include full name, department, etc.?

If it's not OK in the workplace it should not be OK in the schoolplace, either. I'm not sure how many Farkettes here would be comfortable with a 13-15 year old man who they know has said things like "I want to have Mrs. X suck me off."

If students sign a contract for a sports season or some other reason saying they won't drink, no problem with used as evidence to kick the person off the team.

It's certainly illegal to use MySpace to threaten death or physical violence.

 
God-is-a-Taco 2006-10-01 03:37:48 PM  
I guess nowadays it's just assumed that anyone accepting horrible pay to better the world is a liberal?

Carmel High School used its harassment and bullying policy to expel a student Dillon said posted sexually explicit comments about a teacher on MySpace. A second Carmel student was suspended for 10 days and given community service for posting racially offensive comments about a teacher on the site, he said.

There's definitely problems here. How is it any different from kids insulting teachers (not to their faces) while they're shopping at the mall?
Death threats or other illegal things I can see, but this is beyond moronic.

 
stpickrell 2006-10-01 03:37:49 PM  
40oz_A_Knight
Playing on a HS sports team is a right not a privilege

Hope that helps

 
TheSilverOne 2006-10-01 03:38:29 PM  
Since when is high school considered "academia?" High school mostly consists of and is run by idiots, not academic types. Well so does college for that matter. Nevermind.

 
doyner [TotalFark] 2006-10-01 03:38:51 PM  
"Kids look at the Internet as today's restroom wall," said Steve Dillon, director of student services for Carmel Clay Schools. "They need to learn that some things are not acceptable anywhere."

Restroom wall?!?!?! WTF!!???!!!??!?!

Since when has expressing an opinion via electrons been the same as vandalism of school property?

 
stpickrell 2006-10-01 03:39:47 PM  
God-is-a-Taco
When I was in high school and said that a teacher was hawt or whatever it did not leave the room.

If I posted it on MySpace, then it lingers around until I bother to take it off. Slight difference.

 
BBRModitha 2006-10-01 03:39:55 PM  

 
Nightjars 2006-10-01 03:40:05 PM  
I work for Liberal Academia. I'm getting a kick out of these posts.

You think you know what you're talking about, but you really don't.

Please, stop making fools of yourselves. This is how bad information gets around.

 
ptrifoliata2 2006-10-01 03:40:17 PM  
Clark-Pleasant (remains under consideration)
Excerpt: "When you choose to publicly air your opinions via a blog, you are legally responsible for your commentary. Individual bloggers can be held personally liable for any commentary deemed to be defamatory, obscene (not swear words, but rather the legal definition of "obscene"), proprietary or libelous. For these reasons, bloggers should exercise caution with regards to exaggeration, colorful language, guesswork, obscenity, copyrighted materials, legal conclusions and derogatory remarks or characteristics."


free speech, net neutrality surrender.

 
Salacious Salad 2006-10-01 03:40:17 PM  
So it's ok to restrict someone's speech as long as you guys don't agree with what they are saying(like hate speech)?

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

-Voltaire

/Libertarian

 
vwfst55 2006-10-01 03:41:08 PM  
Irony, she be a mean mistress at times. Hands you a steak sammich when you are starving, only the steak is your own foot.

 
drkdstryer [TotalFark] 2006-10-01 03:41:12 PM  
happydorkgirl: Could I have one of those sticks?

/This'll be interesting...

 
tkdjunkie 2006-10-01 03:41:21 PM  
"Clark-Pleasant in Whiteland, is trying to pass a policy that puts students -- and teachers -- on notice that they are legally responsible for anything they post online, including material deemed defamatory, obscene, proprietary or libelous."

I don't understand ... what's wrong with being legally responsible for your own actions? Is there a problem with that?

 
Mouser 2006-10-01 03:41:50 PM  
"The school system has no right to sit there and tell us what we can and cannot do at home," said 17-year-old Kayla Wiggington, a junior at Clark-Pleasant's Whiteland Community High School who uses MySpace to keep in touch with friends. "They can control what we do at school, but when it gets home, the only people who can tell us what to do is our parents, not the school."

Which raises the obvious question, why aren't these parents policing what their precious offspring do on the Internet? If Junior is posting some sort of racist or pornographic crap online, Mom and Dad should be held responsible.

/firmly believes you should have a license to be on the Internet.
//get the heck offa my bandwidth!

 
Kavik 2006-10-01 03:42:05 PM  
haha, another retard using the new definition of liberal provided by neocons. I don't want to post the dictionary definition again, but the submitter is in fact a tool.

 
vgss 2006-10-01 03:42:06 PM  
It's certainly illegal to use MySpace to threaten death or physical violence.

That's why we have charges and trials, to determine if action X was a death threat.

Schools are administered by the government. What if other services run by the state could deal out punishment merely for beleiving you committed a crime?

Sanitation Chief: "Hey guys, no one pick up Frank's trash this week. He got caught speeding and I want to teach him a lesson."

Fireman: "We 'aint going to that house, Captain. Don't you know the guy is a convicted sex offender? Let 'em burn."

See where I'm going with this?

 
184639 2006-10-01 03:42:08 PM  
Submitter is an ignorant bastard.

That said, anyone who posts sexually explicit material about their teacher online and acts surprised about getting in trouble is also an asshat.

 
Nightjars 2006-10-01 03:42:22 PM  
Where does free speech and and libel begin? Let's ask the Queen Spider.

 
thedarkshadow 2006-10-01 03:42:54 PM  
Me thinks smitty is not familiar with the common word "Liberal".

liberal
adj 1: showing or characterized by broad-mindedness; "a broad
political stance"; "generous and broad sympathies"; "a
liberal newspaper"; "tolerant of his opponent's
opinions" [syn: broad, tolerant]
2: having political or social views favoring reform and
progress
3: tolerant of change; not bound by authoritarianism,
orthodoxy, or tradition [ant: conservative]

You're looking for --

authoritarian
adj 1: characteristic of an absolute ruler or absolute rule; having
absolute sovereignty; "an authoritarian regime";
"autocratic government"; "despotic rulers"; "a
dictatorial rule that lasted for the duration of the
war"; "a tyrannical government" [syn: autocratic, dictatorial,
despotic, tyrannical]
2: likened to a dictator in severity [syn: dictatorial]


Me thinks the smitty should stay in school a bit longer, since thou has a tendancy for idiocy.

 
ptrifoliata2 2006-10-01 03:42:59 PM  
2006-10-01 03:38:51 PM doyner [TotalFark]

"Kids look at the Internet as today's restroom wall," said Steve Dillon, director of student services for Carmel Clay Schools. "They need to learn that some things are not acceptable anywhere."

Restroom wall?!?!?! WTF!!???!!!??!?!

Since when has expressing an opinion via electrons been the same as vandalism of school property?


werd.

 
andrew131 [TotalFark] 2006-10-01 03:43:13 PM  
Um, me thinks subby was being sarcastic.

/not subby

 
elcaminos 2006-10-01 03:43:58 PM  
Didn't you know the only way to start a good discussion with your headline is to blame a problem on Bush?

 
confuzed 2006-10-01 03:44:11 PM  
I'm easily offended by headlines on Fark.

 
Nightjars 2006-10-01 03:44:42 PM  
andrew131 wins a cookie.

/not subby either

 
jaymze69 2006-10-01 03:44:47 PM  
stpickrell: If it's not OK in the workplace it should not be OK in the schoolplace, either. I'm not sure how many Farkettes here would be comfortable with a 13-15 year old man who they know has said things like "I want to have Mrs. X suck me off."


Should we also rip out everybody's vocal cords?

 
Salacious Salad 2006-10-01 03:45:05 PM  
If submitter was being sarcastic, then most of the posts above were written by retards.

 
clifton [TotalFark] 2006-10-01 03:45:12 PM  
Someone post that pic with the goofy kid that says, "I'm gonna listen to Linkin Park".

 
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