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(Wired) Obvious Guy discovers that if you pretend to be a mid 20's cute female on Craigslist, all sorts of people will tell and sometimes show you all sorts of creepy stuff about themselves   (blog.wired.com) divider line 167
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Whateva_I_DO_WHAT_I_WANT 2006-09-10 12:04:50 PM  
article by Kevin Poulson about how people hould not do stuff that is wrong?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

 
No Such Agency 2006-09-10 12:06:15 PM  
"Hessian love" did this better a while ago... At least they didn't reveal any names or addresses though.

 
hatechall 2006-09-10 12:09:42 PM  
Fortuny seems not to realize or pretends not to realize that his prank may cost people their jobs and possibly, their marriages.

Well, whose farking fault is it that they responded to SEX ADS using their work accounts?
And whose fault is it that some people are trying to cheat on their wives?

Required privacy is one thing. Emailing a stranger with this information, exp. on a work account... well that's just too damn bad.

 
scavenger 2006-09-10 12:09:58 PM  
What a gigantic douche.

 
184639 2006-09-10 12:10:16 PM  
Just wait til your ex uses your picture and email addresses to get you in trouble.

 
KnickKnolte 2006-09-10 12:10:28 PM  
Even here on Fark all some asshole has to do is pose as a farkette and post a semi-attractive photo in their profile and the lonesome losers fall over themselves being all charming and solicitous.

 
mrexcess [TotalFark] 2006-09-10 12:12:49 PM  
Howie_Feltersnatch
I thought it was hillarious.

Sociopathic much?

 
Ebenator 2006-09-10 12:12:53 PM  
I know how the system works. You don't, Matt.

 
lelio 2006-09-10 12:13:48 PM  
Huh, the person has a Myspace page and it isn't as annoying as 99% of them are.

 
Vangor [TotalFark] 2006-09-10 12:14:16 PM  
The more important portion is on the comments back when the writer rails against people who want to forego other's right to privacy : http://www.blog.wired.com/27BStroke6/index.blog?entry_id=1553813

Notice the privacy extends from the fact that it is email, it is not designed to be placed out there on public, as there is some small assurance with this sort of action that it is a private matter. While I tend to think that giving away personal information over the internet is not intelligent and you tend to get what you deserve, this really was not about this, this was not about how many people will jump at such situations, it is, as the article writer notes, this man's attempt to be superior.

In this case it is the same as though a wife were to post the number of her husband's credit card, it is information her's for the taking but, it is personal information given away for no ethical reasons with no news quality to the information itself.

 
polka-dotted_dactyl 2006-09-10 12:15:18 PM  
It's sociopathic.

Is it really? The person who wrote that article is probably one of the dumbshiats who responded. My god, people are morons.

If someone gets caught & their life gets ruined, maybe they'll learn a little something. Like, I don't know, the internet is never anonymous, maybe?

 
Lumber Jack Off 2006-09-10 12:16:20 PM  
www.public.asu.edu

 
Cavorite 2006-09-10 12:16:49 PM  
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

RFJason on fark frontpage, bahhahahahah.

 
GoodKingNerdnor 2006-09-10 12:17:35 PM  
*votes funny*

 
skinink 2006-09-10 12:17:41 PM  

I'll go with the, It's not right to do this", although I'd hate to say that I almost have no sympathy for the married guys who responded.


I look at Craigslist as either a bulletin board you'd find in a laudromat or a coffeeshop. And the whole "Using your workplace email for personal use" is hopeless. People should know better.


 
TexasPeace [TotalFark] 2006-09-10 12:18:18 PM  
Remember the Texas city council woman who publicized a constituent's email and identity? After he killed himself, the media reactedas if she had pulled the trigger in a cold-blooded murder.

 
mrexcess [TotalFark] 2006-09-10 12:20:05 PM  
FTA: And, just a note about people who say they "like to push other people's buttons" and who are prone to writing things like "See, I get away with everything I do because I understand how the system works. You sit there frustrated and bitter at people like me because, try as you might, you just can't get past yourself. And you can't see how it's possible to be like me, and that just eats you up inside."

Sounds like so many farkers.

polka-dotted_dactyl
If someone gets caught & their life gets ruined, maybe they'll learn a little something.

That's really an extremely poor post-facto excuse for these kinds of shenanigans, considering there are ways to let them know their internet activities aren't so invulnerable to being exploited without actually ruining their lives.

Lets face facts: this wasn't done to "teach anyone", it was done precisely because the person doing it gets off on ruining peoples' lives. How farking sad.

 
SomeGuyFromColorado 2006-09-10 12:21:05 PM  
Sounds like good clean fun to me. The lively art of trolling lives on.

 
skintigh 2006-09-10 12:21:57 PM  
Wow, Fortuny sure is morally and intellectually superior! He is just amazing!!! I mean, just look at all of his life's accomplishments:

1) He lied on the internets

2) Some people believed him

3) He published private emails without permission

That guy is my hero. I wish I was cool enough to pretend to be a girl to get men to be attracted to me and send me pics of their weiners. And there is nothing gay about any of that.

 
mrexcess [TotalFark] 2006-09-10 12:22:13 PM  
SomeGuyFromColorado
Sounds like good clean fun to me.

Perhaps its time to consider the implications of that from a personal psychology perspective.

 
dubdub 2006-09-10 12:22:14 PM  
too bad http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/RFJason_CL_Experiment (NSFW) seems to be farked already.

 
HeartBurnKid 2006-09-10 12:23:22 PM  
Quite frankly, if you're emailing pictures of your genitals to people you see on Craigslist and have never even spoken to before, then you deserve whatever you get.

 
eden express 2006-09-10 12:26:06 PM  
dubdub: too bad http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/RFJason_CL_Experiment (NSFW) seems to be farked already.

I was going to post that too. Some of the replies were hilarious. All of them had had atrocious spelling.

/spellchecks my reply so I'm not a hypocrite

 
xX hhallahh Xx 2006-09-10 12:27:56 PM  
These are tough issues to deal with - "what if it's a guy cheating on his spouse?" "what if it's a guy who's using his work account when he shouldn't be?" - that I don't want to wade into atm, but suffice to say that people who are taking the extremes here, namely "you sent information to someone, he can do whatever he wants with it lolz" are full of shiat. First of all, it's clear that the "experimenter's" intentions are bad regardless of what the results are, and that alone is blameworthy. But second of all, pretty much any reasonable person would agree that people are generally entitled to a reasonable expectation of privacy in many areas of life under most conditions. This guy clearly violated those boundaries and should be held accountable for it. Pretty much everyone has skeletons in their closet which may not involve illegal or morally repugnant behaviors. Saying that these interests are illegitimate of protection - either socially or legally - is ass-backwards in today's hypocritical and overjudgemental world.

 
finnished 2006-09-10 12:30:16 PM  
I think men posing as women on the Internets should be added to the Book of Oldest Tricks.

Secondly, apparently the guy could've fallen for his own trick. He figured that people would believe anything that's on the internet. And he believed every answer he got himself.

What if someone did it as a joke to one of their coworkers or something like that?

 
eddie van heinous [recently expired TotalFark] 2006-09-10 12:31:06 PM  
Jesus what an AW.

 
LoverLayne 2006-09-10 12:31:27 PM  
that is not very nice.

 
skintigh 2006-09-10 12:31:50 PM  
It's completely irrelevant who these guys were and if they were "good" or "bad" in some arbitrary moral judgement.

You don't have a private conversation and then post it in a public forum. There are laws against stuff like that. And it's also someting I would expect of a teenager...

 
mrexcess [TotalFark] 2006-09-10 12:32:13 PM  
HeartBurnKid
Quite frankly, if you're emailing pictures of your genitals to people you see on Craigslist and have never even spoken to before, then you deserve whatever you get.

Thank you, moral protector of the internets. They'll totally deserve it next time these people are turned down for employment because some overzealous HR staff member went googling and came back with too much information. I mean, trying to get laid and doing mildly embarassing stuff in the process? Surely only a total idiot would ever do something like that.

 
Eidolon 2006-09-10 12:32:17 PM  
I can't believe anyone thinks this is anything other than sickening. It reminds me of a time in high school when some kids secretly recorded one of them "coming out" to other students in an attempt to find out who was gay so they could harass them. I hate it when people feel like there's so much pressure to be in on the joke that they overlook the obvious immorality of the whole situation. I hope this guy gets sued for everything he's worth.

 
ClipJoint 2006-09-10 12:32:54 PM  
HeartBurnKid

Quite frankly, if you're emailing pictures of your genitals to people you see on Craigslist and have never even spoken to before, then you deserve whatever you get.

I LOL'D

 
Gairloch [TotalFark] 2006-09-10 12:34:23 PM  
Sociopathic sounds right.

It sounds like the only reason the guy's doing it is just for the sake of being an asshat, and if pissing people off for the sake of pissing people off isn't sociopathic then I don't know what is.

 
mrexcess [TotalFark] 2006-09-10 12:35:22 PM  
finnished
Secondly, apparently the guy could've fallen for his own trick.

The guy sounds like the type who long ago realized that he could trust others far more than they can trust him.

 
Dr. Mojo PhD [TotalFark] 2006-09-10 12:36:01 PM  
Haha I love how the article on Wired biatches about his "pathological sense of superiority" while dismissing what the author of the article admits is majority support for Jason. Who has the pathological sense of superiority?

"What Jason Fortuny did is fine" x1000
"NO YOU'RE ALL WRONG AND YOU JUST DON'T GET IT ONLY I AM RIGHT HE HAS A PATHOLOGICAL SENSE OF SUPERIORTY THAT'S WHY ALL 1000 OF YOU ARE WRONG AND ONLY I MAY BE RIGHT!"

 
allanhowls 2006-09-10 12:38:01 PM  
hatechall: Required privacy is one thing. Emailing a stranger with this information, exp. on a work account... well that's just too damn bad.

Nobody's saying it's appropriate or smart. Nonetheless, that douchebag has no right whatsoever to blab this to the world. As the article points out, the men did nothing that was either illegal or newsworthy.

 
Wayside 2006-09-10 12:38:27 PM  
No matter how funny it may be, or how dumb some of the repliers may be for revealing themselves, what this little punk did was pure evil, and if there is any justice in the world someone will find a way to ruin the rest of his life. He's proven himself an uncivilized lout. I hope people will at least have the decency to boycott this self-absorbed losers blog!

 
eden express 2006-09-10 12:38:49 PM  
I kind of hope he gets sued, just because he sounds like such a smug motherfarker.

 
jack parsons project 2006-09-10 12:39:34 PM  
TexasPeace

Remember the Texas city council woman who publicized a constituent's email and identity? After he killed himself, the media reactedas if she had pulled the trigger in a cold-blooded murder.

Actually the council woman contacted the constituent's employer and
demanded he receive 'sensitivity training' knowing full well he would
be fired. After his death the e-mail was publicized and revealed nothing
that should have prompted the course of action taken by the council
woman. It was pure malevolence on her part.

 
barryq 2006-09-10 12:39:53 PM  
there is google cache for:

RFJason CL Experiment Encyclopedia Dramatica

nsfw

 
mrexcess [TotalFark] 2006-09-10 12:40:11 PM  
Dr. Mojo PhD: Argumentum ad populum.

 
Deacon Blues 2006-09-10 12:41:06 PM  
Those of you who think the guys deserved it think so because you like feeling superior to them.

Even FARKers? Hard to believe.

 
allanhowls 2006-09-10 12:41:18 PM  
Dr. Mojo PhD: while dismissing what the author of the article admits is majority support for Jason. Who has the pathological sense of superiority?

So you're saying that if the majority supports something, it is good and right? Really?

 
Stereolab [TotalFark] 2006-09-10 12:41:18 PM  
barryq

I love you.

And you can post that message anywhere you like, I don't care.

 
Emeraldstar 2006-09-10 12:42:40 PM  
This guy is a grade A arsehole...

That being said ... I really do not care either way. If you give someone your private information they should be able to do whatever the hell they want with it. Even if you lied to get it ... you GAVE it to them. It is now THEIR information.

 
Skip Whiffle 2006-09-10 12:43:30 PM  
The only thing this dick can claim is that he's either smarter or more internet-world savvy than the people that he entrapped.

The people that he screwed with certainly have problems, but preying on people like that -- because you can -- puts you in a special segment of society reserved for those that we commonly think of as predators.

 
Alien5151 2006-09-10 12:43:50 PM  
Dr. Mojo PhD

Haha I love how the article on Wired biatches about his "pathological sense of superiority" while dismissing what the author of the article admits is majority support for Jason. Who has the pathological sense of superiority?

"What Jason Fortuny did is fine" x1000
"NO YOU'RE ALL WRONG AND YOU JUST DON'T GET IT ONLY I AM RIGHT HE HAS A PATHOLOGICAL SENSE OF SUPERIORTY THAT'S WHY ALL 1000 OF YOU ARE WRONG AND ONLY I MAY BE RIGHT!"


"What is popular is not always right, what is right is not always popular."

 
dubdub 2006-09-10 12:43:59 PM  
there's text-only google cache here : http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:SBEAGNQZVCgJ:encyclopediadramatica.com/in dex.php/RFJason_CL_Experiment+site:encyclopediadramatica.com+cl+experiment&hl= en&lr=&client=firefox-a&strip=1

 
just_dis_guy 2006-09-10 12:44:23 PM  
Dr. Mojo PhD: Haha I love how the article on Wired biatches about his "pathological sense of superiority" while dismissing what the author of the article admits is majority support for Jason. Who has the pathological sense of superiority?

A lot of people voted for Bush and support the Patriot Act too, all that this tells us is that a lot of people are morons.

 
gradatim 2006-09-10 12:45:29 PM  
if you pretend to be a mid 20's cute female on Craigslist, all sorts of people will tell and sometimes show you all sorts of creepy stuff

Duh. Pretending to be something you aren't in order to trick others into doing things is called trolling, and it's been happening on Usenet for years.

 
allanhowls 2006-09-10 12:45:31 PM  
Emeraldstar: If you give someone your private information they should be able to do whatever the hell they want with it.

You might want to think about that a little harder.
The government, your bank, your credit card issuer, your doctor. They have lots of private information about you.

But hey, you gave it to them. They can do whatever they want with it. It is now their information!

 
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