What about helping me own my own home?

Yeah, how about all the poor white folks?



Complete and utter crap.

We have blacks here too?

They have them in Brazil too.

Well I never....heard of such a proposterous idea!

What do we give them next? Voting rights? Equality??

Jebus, what a day.

The president didnt know there were Black people in Brazil. I almost forgot how amazing that is.

No wonder nobody tries to defend him, it's impossible.

Also funny how they make sure he gets to go play on his Ranch every month. His handlers know he needs lots of play time.

"Now my crack house can be a crack home!"

I think this paragraph says it all:

"Bush's proposals would benefit blacks and other minorities key to the Nov. 5 congressional elections in which control of the Senate and the House of Representatives go up for grabs."

Hell, I'll hold my nose and vote Republican if they'll throw some cash my way too.

Just when I thought the level of hatred some of you have for this man was as high as it could go...

Cataholic: It's not all hate. There's good doses of disdain, amusemement, and repugnance thrown in for good measure.

I wonder if this applys to the most dicriminated against of all minorities - people that are Left Handed. Everything is made for you farking right handers, i want equality..no fark that..i want more. I want a free house that comes with a right handed bimbo to give me hand jobs. And then and only then will I have equality and not be forced to go on a hand chopping off spree.

well you guys can look at it this way, you can have bush, or you can have gore. hmmmm....im tellin ya, gore is about as usefull as a shovel with a rope handle. and what would america be if there werent guns in every household? especially the south! they'd be known for their chewing habits and thats it. America would be ruined, but at least i think thats how'd it go, and if not, please dont boo me! ::exits stage right::

Didn't Bush live in a house that had an owners agreement to not sell the house to black people?

I actually kind of like George. I always root for the underdog. He is definatley a mental underdog.

Halobender for president!

I agree, my left-handed brethren.

*another lefty raises his fist*

Power to the Southpaws, brother!

Who says the Dems and the Repubs aren't alike? "Let's buy some votes with government handouts!"

I'm poor white folk. I'd love ghettofabulous housing.

Sigh. How big is the deficit now?

Oh yeah. Get ready for the War on Homelessness!

Sorry, Halobender, my wife is left-handed and she already runs everything.

He must have just learned we have blacks too. Stupid shrub.

Hey, all you "I-hate-handouts" people, the real story is in the $2.4 billion in tax breaks to home builders. I guarendamntee that minorities see almost nothing but rhetoric and the construction industry reaps a windfall.

Now, go back to paying your subsidized student loans and biatching about handouts...

Everything "Shrub" does is for political/campaign/re-election reasons. Notice the "timing" for most of his so called decisions..... coincidence? I don't think so. God! I can't wait for 2004!

I'm right handed, but one of my daughters (twins) is a Lefty.... "only left handed people are in their right minds".

From snopes.com:

In another case of a quote reflecting what many people want to believe -- in this case that President Bush is an appallingly ignorant racist with little understanding of the world outside the USA -- we have a current example: a claim that Bush asked of Brazilian president Fernando Henrique Cardoso, "Do you have blacks, too?", before his national security advisor helpfully stepped in to bail him out of an extremely embarrassing situation.

This item originated with an article entitled "An Overwhelming Ignorance" published in the Brazilian newspaper Estado de Sao Paulo on 28 April 2002, and it gained wider prominence after it was picked up in the 19 May 2002 issue of the German news magazine Der Spiegel (an English translation is provided on gwbush.com).

Is it true? Bush and Cardoso did meet in the Oval Office back in November 2001 to discuss terrorism-related issues (a meeting that was attended by national security advisor Condoleezza Rice), and they held a trade meeting at the White House on 30 March 2001. But this single-source item is woefully short of specifics, such as which meeting this quote supposedly came from, in what context Bush posed his question, or who reported what Bush purportedly asked. (Many readers have inferred that information about Bush's embarrassing question came from President Cardoso himself because this item has been coupled with Cardoso's statement about Bush's still being in a "learning phase" regarding Latin America, but Cardoso was not referring to this item when he made that statement.)

Considering that this news wasn't reported until five to thirteen months after the event, we have to wonder whether the person reporting it was actually present for the occasion. (Indeed, the literal English text of Bush's question as printed in Estado de Sao Paulo -- "Do you have blacks, also?" -- bears the marks of non-English speakers who typically write 'also' where English speakers more commonly use 'too.')

Go to snopes.com and search on "President" and "Brazil" to read the rest. Snopes terms the status on this item as "undetermined."

Correction: Government to use more of YOUR money to buy somebody else a home.

I want my government check for lefthanded colorblind people. We're worthy of official pity as well.

Narco_Revile: It wasn't posted by a Bush-lover. I'm indifferent to what I submit; if it's interesting, I submit it.

06-16-02 06:12:08 PM Bonobo62
Oh yeah. Get ready for the War on Homelessness!

OMG you're so right.

If we don't pay blacks and other minorities key to the Nov. 5 congressional elections, the homeless have already won.

Bush vows to help more minorities achieve the dream of owning their own home.

What, he doesn't think they can do it without the help of white people?

Crumbs for the poor, cake for the rich.

What else is new?

This was just because on that disk the democrat found in the park, that some republican aide dropped, that said Bush needs to grow his reach to Blacks and increase his reach to Hispanics. Boom, two at once, next issue please! Of course, I doubt many people heard much about this what with all the republican-friendly reporting going on.

Fark em! Let them go out and earn a house like everyone else! We have free schooling and free opportunity for ANY individual to fine and earn success. If you are waiting for Bush or any government official to GIVE you something that is plain wrong. If you take my money and give to someone who won't work for themselves that is theft!

Frederick Douglas is my favorite Black minority. Right in the heart of slavery he worked and earned himself a mansion and this was during a time when EVERYTHING was against him. It can and has be done. Depend upon yourself!

Pile up the legislation, passed and proposed, and tell me that Al Gore wouldn't have pretty much been pushing for the same agenda. I don't know what you lefties have your nose so out of joint with this guy about. Kyoto? Big deal, so you lost one precious item out of your wishlist. The EPA just put out that report blaming human activity for global warming, so no doubt Congress will be enacting your most freedom-restricting, economy-destroying fantasies soon enough; who needs a Kyoto treaty?

READ THE ARTICLE

He is proposing tax credits for DEVELOPERS. Not for minorities or poor people, but for DEVELOPERS.

Republicans are so damned predictable.

Does anyone here actually read the article before posting?

It says he wants $2.4b in tax credit for DEVELOPERS, it doesn't say a damned thing about giving money to poor people.

It is the "Real Estate Developer Welfare Bill"

Studley1289
"well you guys can look at it this way, you can have bush, or you can have gore."

Um, you could also have Nader, a libertarian or countless other candidates. Of course, that would have required intelligence and lets face it, stupid people vote for stupid presidents.

...And the homes will be happily supplied by all the good Americans going into internment camps for the duration of this National Emergency which is expected to last at least 25 years...

this sounds like a smart idea that will eventually pay for itself

it sounds like they get a tax credit to tear down an old house and build a new one in "distressed area" whatever the fark that is

my concern is "how do they define distressed"?

It says he wants $2.4b in tax credit for DEVELOPERS, it doesn't say a damned thing about giving money to poor people.

It is the "Real Estate Developer Welfare Bill"

The developers will get the money if they erect housing which they'll 'sell' (more on that in a minute) at lower prices to poor people. That makes it an indirect subsidy to the poor people who end up paying less than non-poor people for the same item. Also, the way these programs generally work is that the poor person 'buying' a subsidized house can't turn around and sell it for market rates, because many would just buy a house, quickly sell it for a big profit, and then go out and spend the money. So they have to 'sell' it to another poor person at a price that government dictates. I put buy and sell in quotes because you don't really own something when somebody else is telling you what you pay for it or what you sell it for.

Ok, so what about the young kid (me and everyone like me) who work in areas where starting salaries suck ass, and the cost of living is high?

You move to another area. Nobody's forcing you to stay. Unless you're on parole.

How about this deal? We all work 50 hours a week, but the Government gets our entire paycheck? And if you choose NOT to work, thats okay too...dont matter. That way there will be little pink houses for you and me?

Plus, of course, you're not really owning your own home. You're just starting a nice life of being indebted to the bank, who are the ones that really own your home. Which, as far as I can tell, leaves you quite a lot worse off than if you were renting your home from a reputable landlord.

'Cause let's face it, the bank aren't going to be coming round to fix the plumbing, are they?

For the majority of people, "Home ownership" is really just a big lie to make the banks richer.

Got to agree w/ Sexcrime...home ownership is a real pain in the ass, and by the time you "pay it off" the taxes will equal your Mortgage anyways. Renting may not be so bad after all.

HOMEOWNERSHIP IS GOOD

When you rent everytime you get a raise your rent will go up you will die with NOTHING

When you own a home, you build up equity your portion of ownership is worth something

there IS interest, but keep in mind your wages will go up but the amount you pay on a mortgage will not

at some point you will OWN the house and can live there BASICALLY FREE buy a house if you can

MunchCunch: Except it didn't even work out that well. Very few homeowners in the Soviet Union. Most people crammed into small apartments with the entire family, including grandma and grandpa.

Home ownership is tough for anyone. I saved for 10 years for a downpayment on my house.

Blackvampyr -Ok, so what about the young kid (me and everyone like me) who is left handed and trying to buy a can opener or a pair of sicssors, living were there are no Ned Flanders around to open left handed stores?

Such farking bullshiat.

Jasoaelios: Good point. I was able to write off $30,000 in property taxes and mortgage interest last year from my federal taxes. And my house has appreciated $100,000 in the 2 years since I bought it - all appreciation in value goes to homeowner and not to the mortgage company.

Home ownership has been a great deal for me. Appreciation in value has been a compounded 8.25% per year, my mortage interest and property tax payments are deductible from my income, I don't have to deal with a scumbag landlord, and I get a place to live where the jerk next door isn't just a wall or floor away. It's probably not for everyone, like the lazy and footloose fer instance, but for most, there's nothing better.

I just want my bah to match my rent.