Proper use of scary tag.

And a great article.

No matter what "side" you are on.

He is right about one thing, if the entire population of both countries was wiped out except for one person on each side, they would kill each other over the same freaking issues. If they do lob nukes, hopefully they'll do us all a favor and have a few misses over in the Isreal/Palestine area.

Excellent article.

Lousy W.O.P.R.!


Mmmm.... whopper.

I've fought in more than 20 "wars" between India and Pakistan. I've seen skirmishes turn into conflagrations. I've seenferocious attacks across the border, and defending divisions worn down. I've seen Pakistani commanders turn tonuclear weapons to fend off advancingIndian divisions.

I've seen people that knew how to use the freakin spacebar.

Sadly though, this is something that is NOT going away. Someone needs to drop a nuke along their border so they can't get to each other. Might as well start WWIII as a surprise attack from the US than from India or Pakistan.

No good can come of this.

i saw this in a movie once.

obvious.

maybe we should teach them to play tic-tac-toe

That will cook your curry in a hurry.

If they start lobbing nukes back and forth at each other, who'll move to the US and run the AM-PM stores? Will we be forced to make our OWN chili dogs at 2am?

Firstmattinspace hit the trifecta, and the first ten posts were adorned with the new blue tootsie roll logo. I have to get one of those.

If America is supposed to be the world's biggest superpower why doesn't Washington just say to those clowns in India/Pakistan: "If you even think of using your nukes, we will nuke both of you. No one wins. You're all dead."

Would you like to play a game? How about Global Thermonuclear War?

And all this fighting is over some fancy sweaters.

"Hello, Dr. Faulken. How about a nice game of Global Thermoneuclear Warfare?"

,img src="http://missile.sourceforge.net/missile003.gif">

it's a prophecy! [/sarcasm]

While we're on the subject of the Wargames movie, did anyone else find it hilarious that all that data and voice synth could travel instantaneously over a 300 baud modem?

Tootsie roll or tampon - you decide.

OS they want to blow eachother in to the stone age. That will set them back, what, two maybe three weeks.

damn typos, and no way to edit a post....

Henchman:

Whatever that compresson is, it makes Frauhoffer MP3 look like a joke.

I meant Ok.

damn ftd (farking typing disorder)

Max Load, LOL!

Interesting to read Sam Gardiner's analysis on the
potential India-Pakistan war. Is this guy for real?
What makes him think he knows better than the Indian
army chief who runs one of the world's biggest army?

So he ran some video game simulations. Does he
seriously believe that these simulations are even
close to what would happen in a real war? Just
curious: Did this genius also run simulations on the
Vietnam War?

I ran some simulations last week on the Bears and
Eagles game (ok I admit I played the game on the Xbox
console). Guess what? The Bears won the simulation. I
bet all my savings on the Bears in today's game. I am
so happy that these advanced simulations so accurately
mimick real life.

War is always bad. One doesn't need simulations to
predict that there will be a heavy deathtoll when two
neighboring countries face off. But these cheap shots
at generals of other countries is hardly called for.
What is the India army chief going to say? "Ummm...
let's not fight. I'm afraid there'll be heavy
casualities. I am a peace loving guy"?

If Mr. Gardiner were to take time off his advanced "
video games" and actually go take a walk around the
block every now and then, his analysis might be worth
reading.

The best part was the backdoor password to the 'WOPR' server. "Joshua"

Like some Unix computer guru is going to name his password after his dead son.

Henchman, when you're a 1980's style 'computer whiz', there are no limitations to what you can do.

05-23-02 05:44:21 PM Volcano
The best part was the backdoor password to the 'WOPR' server. "Joshua"

Like some Unix computer guru is going to name his password after his dead son.

You're right, Volcano, it was totally unbelievable. Who would believe some Unix computer guru would actually get laid in the first place?

How about this wargame:

Army using video game to woo new recruits

TV: Except sustain a successful movie career, apparently. :)

What about that 2400 baud modem in Hackers that they all gawked over. tasty

Mines much more powerful than a WOPR!

I cluck for the Chicken WOPR.

JerseyTim:

LOL - very funny. Believe it or not these guys often find chicks just as nerdy as themselves, then they reproduce. And the kids all end up with something called 'Asperger's syndrome' - kind of a high-functioning form of autism.

BTW - there's a high concentration of Aspergers around San Jose / Silicon valley area:

The Geek Syndrome

And this guy almost certainly has it:

Wargames are actually often a very good indicator of how the real thing will turn out. Part of the reason is that the leaders of both countries have almost certainly got people doing the exact same thing themselves, and they'll base their strategies on the results.

HM ha! nice.

Volcano: Why do I get the feeling that the army will soon start recruiting in the manner described in "The Last Starfighter?"

Captian: Sir, this man just fragged an entire platoon in under thirty seconds. He's a ruthless killing machine of frightening efficiency.
General: I knew planting that spyware in Counterstrike would come in handy. Offer him a comission immediately!
Captain: Yes, sir. I'll send word to his grade school immediately.

*covers ears*

LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA!

05-23-02 05:42:59 PM TheBitingFaery
*huddles up in a ball in the corner and cries*

No need to cry. If there is nuclear war, we'll die instantaneously.

Of course, since it's in Pakistan/India, it will probably take a while for the wind to blow all the radiation clouds over to the US. So actually, we won't die right away, we'll probably die in 4-5 years of some painful form of cancer...

*sits next to Faery and cries*

JParker: He is not running video games. He is running "simulations" and wargames that are run by real people. They have people playing the role of leaders and officers in each of the military, and run it. A simulation is not necessarily run on silicon.

Id like to run my simulation on some silicon.

/troll

JerseyTim:
Go easy on the unix guru = geek theme = bad thing. I happen to know for a fact that while being a geek in high school got you beaten up, it now gets you a six figure salary.

The six figure salary WILL get you laid.

What can the United States do?

Stay the fock out of there!

Did you see many cops getting between L.A. rioters and Circuit City in 1992?

Yawn, nukes are just like big bombs. The fears of fallout and such are real but have been greatly overexaggerated due to movies, etc. They're also not as damaging as conventional weapons (read slaughterhouse-five?). Hiroshima and Nagasaki were rebuilt almost immediately after being bombed and now millions and millions of people live there and in the surrounding areas.