soon after..... light your smoke Mr. President....BLAMO

Imagine the explosive power of flatulence.

"Fire in the hole!!"

Well don't break wind - or you will end up on Darwin's list.

McMurphy: Well don't break wind - or you will end up on Darwin's list.

If you get lucky, you can fart in Pheonix and land in LA.

What's wrong with drinking rocket fuel?

/Better with bleach

Hell, hydrogen and oxygen are the main fuels on the space shuttle. Drink up!

grow up, toolshed.

That being said, ammonium perchlorate is the OTHER rocket fuel, the one that is used in the SRBs and most any other solid fueled rocket, and the perchlorate ion leaches into water easily and stays there for a few decades. So, while you're drinking rocket fuel one, watch out for rocket fuel 2.

Anyone ever use Hydrogen Peroxide before? Thar ya go.

Just don't drink it.

If you guys had a wild 3 year-old boy like I do, you wouldn't think this was dumb.

This year I've had to call poison control at least three times for him licking toner cartidges and eating some miracle grow among other things.

Have drunk lots of Everclear and Bacardi 151 and...Oh, that's torpedo fuel. Sorry.

rocket fuel. it's crazappy!

Is drinking water with no contaminants in it too much to ask for?

I think it's lovely that as long as it is not at a level proven to cause cancer, then it should be fine. Any other disorder it causes is acceptable.

In the south, we call it corn liquor.

Hmmm, did they study the effects of Gas-X as a remedy for this?

ScienceBoy

drinking water with no contaminants in it too much to ask for?

In a word... yes

Rocket Fuel Malt Liquor! Damn!

/props to Phil Hartman

When your drinking water comes from Lake Erie - perchloride flavored water is a treat!

ScienceBoy

Is drinking water with no contaminants in it too much to ask for?

What are you, some kind of hippie tree-hugger? If it was really dangerous, the government and the corporations would work together to protect us, even if it cost them votes and/or profits.

You gotta love decisions made for poor people by rich people who will never be effected by said decisions. Please mother, fix it all soon.

I weigh around 68 kilograms and I just drank .5 milligrams of rocket fuel. I feel funny... like my head is spinningajkghjajenmv..........

can I mix that with vodka or rum?

Albo, Zamt, et al: nice!

Rocket fuel makes your feet stank and keeps you ugly all night!

This is sad. I submitted a link with scientific findings on the level of Rocket Fuel contaniments in U.S. water and food some time ago the was red-lighted.

This article could have had the "follow-up" tag.

ScienceBoy: Is drinking water with no contaminants in it too much to ask for?

I would say "yes" considering it's not possible in any real world application.

The sad thing is, this is a better than average use of government money.

Considering that most of the "rocket fuel" NASA uses now (at least for the shuttles, and I'm assuming the Delta rockets as well) is a mixture of liquid hydrogen (2 parts) & liquid oxygen (one part), I'm guessing the answer is "absolutely".

Provided that they are molecularly bonded as dihydrogen oxide, that is. The two separate elements in liquid form would quite likely kill you. Not the fuel itself, mind you; it's just that from what I understand the human body doesn't stand up well to temperatures below -200 degrees celcius.

Well, sadly enough... here in Las Vegas they found 'safe amounts' of rocket fuel in our 'tap' water. Needless to say I only drink Sparkletts. (bottled)

I don't see how this gets the stupid tag. Would you rather have them just take a wild guess?

2005-01-11 09:48:26 AM ScienceBoy

Is drinking water with no contaminants in it too much to ask for?

No, unless you enjoy living in an industrialized, high income, high tech society, then yes.

At least two environmental groups accused the government of trying to influence the report's findings...

I blame Bush?

Firefly4F4:

Considering that most of the "rocket fuel" NASA uses now (at least for the shuttles, and I'm assuming the Delta rockets as well) is a mixture of liquid hydrogen (2 parts) & liquid oxygen (one part), I'm guessing the answer is "absolutely".

The solid fuel on the boosters is ammonium perchlorate. The delta rocket uses a couple fuels but I can't remember what they are off the top of my head.

Major Thomb

An "obvious" tag might have been more appropriate (as in "it is obvious that any rocket fuel getting into our drinking water is a bad thing"). I assume the "stupid" tag refers to the fact that someone felt determining the maximum amount of rocket fuel in drinking water that won't kill people was a better use of time, resources, and effort than stoping perchlorides from leaching into drinking water in the first place.

The correct answer to the question "how much rocket fuel is safe to drink?" is "None at all, damnit, it's farking rocket fuel!" So maybe a "dumbass" tag would have been even better.

What tag would you have preferred?

you_varmints:

No, unless you enjoy living in an industrialized, high income, high tech society, then yes.

There's more gunk in river water than you get from the tap. All kinds of microbes, dirt, fish crap, etc.

Maybe "scary"

If you have enough money you can install

you_varmints:

2005-01-11 09:48:26 AM ScienceBoy

Is drinking water with no contaminants in it too much to ask for?

No, unless you enjoy living in an industrialized, high income, high tech society, then yes.


I don't see why you would assume that the two are mutually exclusive.

-PPL_Wannabe-

If your hydrogen peroxide contains chlorine,
it's probably not safe to use.

Since the makers and users of this stuff have banded together to convince us all how safe it is, what could be the problem?

The Council On Water Quality:

["The Council on Water Quality is supported by a subset of the member companies of the Perchlorate Study Group, including Lockheed Martin, Aerojet, Kerr-McGee Chemical and American Pacific Corporation. In the past decade, the Perchlorate Study Group has worked cooperatively with the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency to increase scientific and medical understanding of perchlorates risk to human health."]

Here: http://www.councilonwaterquality.org/index.html

Damn tree-huggers.

ScienceBoy
Is drinking water with no contaminants in it too much to ask for?

The first thing I thought of wahen you said this was a humorous commercial for the 'You Don't Know Jack' series.

Something for Tap Water Beverages bottled water.
"With all of the chemicals you grew up with. Now with real traces of raw sewage!"

If anyone know a link to that on the intarwebby - please post a link. HYSTERICAL

FloydA:

An "obvious" tag might have been more appropriate (as in "it is obvious that any rocket fuel getting into our drinking water is a bad thing"). I assume the "stupid" tag refers to the fact that someone felt determining the maximum amount of rocket fuel in drinking water that won't kill people was a better use of time, resources, and effort than stoping perchlorides from leaching into drinking water in the first place.


There's no such thing as pollution free, and they have to work with reality. There's a huge list of contaminants and their acceptable levels in drinking water. The same goes for food and air.

I wonder if anyone is looking to see if there is any synergistic effect between the contaminants. 1, 2, or 3 individual contaminants may not kill you but perhaps some combination could be less benign.

Major Thomb

There's no such thing as pollution free

Nor did I suggest otherwise. But be honest, which do you think is a better use of time, energy and resources?
(A) to assume it is harmful at even miniscule levels and try to find out how perchlorate is getting into ground water and stop it, or
(B) to continue to let it accumulate in ground water and try to find out how much people can possibly consume before it kills them?

That was the point I was trying to make. I think (A) is the more sensible use of limited resources. If your opinion revolves around the "we can't eliminate pollution entirely so why bother trying?" school of thought, then we'll just have to agree to disagree on this issue.

Numerous small plots on Vandenberg AFB are fenced off because the ground is contaminated with rocket fuel. Some of these plots haven't been used for rocketry since the early 1970s and a a few are older than that. Rocket fuel must never evaporate or decay, or maybe the military is going out of its way to avoid frivolous lawsuits. It is more likely that the EPA is forcing them to overreact to something that can't hurt anybody unless they get down on their hands and knees and lick the dirt.

After reading about the excesses and abuses of the EPA, it is hard for me to accept any sort of advisory from the government without a grain of salt. Of course avoiding the ingestion of rocket fuel is a good thing. I don't plan to trespass in these 'fordbidden zones' any time soon.

Water gives you t3h AIDS.

GIS for "rocket fuel":

Galland: I don't plan to trespass in these 'fordbidden zones' any time soon.



Kneel before rocket-powered Zod!

Major Thumb:
There's no such thing as pollution free, and they have to work with reality. There's a huge list of contaminants and their acceptable levels in drinking water. The same goes for food and air.


So we should just allow another one? theres no suchI think we should enact a zero tolerance policy on it. Arent you conservitives big on those things? But I guess you guys like things like arsenic and whatnot in your food and water.

I always love how you can say, "well there's pollution everwhere you cant stop it, so we'll just have acceptable levels". However you object to the same reasoning for things like sex education or drug use.

So go ahead tell me somethign about how "liberals", whatever that means, are hypocrits rather than address my main point.

dang. now i'm going to have to cut back.

Nothingman:

So we should just allow another one? theres no suchI think we should enact a zero tolerance policy on it. Arent you conservitives...

The stereotype based mind is a wondering thing. I'm not a conservative and your personal attack just makes you look stupid.