A considerate suicide? Let the conspiracy theories commence.

Apparent suicide my shiny metal ass. Sounds like the CIA decided to shut him up.

the cia didn't spread crack in LA to hurt blacks in the usa, that's insane!

the cia invented AIDS to do that, duh

and obviously, the illuminati killed the reporter

/lost my tin foil hat

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Sorry but nobody puts up a note like that for a suicide. This was murder made to look like suicide. The conspiracy part is who killed him. The CIA? The Columbians? NASA? Who the fark knows.

tin foil isn't enough at this point.

/puts on titanium foil hat

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And no one has ever been nutcase enough to try to make it look like they were offed, because no one would believe their crackpot story. "They'll believe me now!"

Um, isn't that the CIA was involved in drug trafficking in order to fund the Contras in Nicaragua more or less a matter of fact? How is this any more tin foil hat than the Japanese Internment camps, or the FBI having Martin Luther King illegally bugged?

What's next? We never traded diseased blankets of any sort to the Indians?

Although, I always figured if I ever got a terminal disease, once it advanced enough I'd kill myself the same way.

I have a feeling that if CIA perpetuated this nobody would question that it was a suicide, they are not this stupid.

Apparently, newly hired CIA agents are required to read the following educational publications as part of their training.

Iran-Contra

ExitKloie That's what they *want* you to think...

Yay for fear of the state!

The US is getting more and more like Russia. Its what failed states do....

I'm with ExitKloie...Only it probably would've been a drug overdose or heart attack, because suicides make people wonder. My money's on the note being there because the suicidal guy didn't want to traumatise the hotel staff any more than necessary.

Actually, many suicidal people worry about what viewing their body would do to whoever found them. It is not uncommon to try to find some way to warn whoever might come across their body to go find a police officer or paramedic who would be more used to grisly sights.

If you want to avoid suicidal thoughts overcoming you, you should also not write a biography on GWB:

http://www.indybay.org/news/2004/12/1709370_comment.php#1709433

Crackpot commits crackpot suicide? Move along now. Nothing to see here.

AgentPothead
Sorry but nobody puts up a note like that for a suicide.

Yes, they do. Classic 'I can't take it anymore' notes aren't particularly common. Many suicides leave apologies for the inconvenience, details of how to contact their families, etc. Survivors of attempted bathtub suicide have been known to cite the desire not to make a mess.

/wishes never to have acquired knowledge of this subject
//hopes that any Farkers who are feeling desperation find the help they need

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Through early morning fog I see
visions of the things to be
the pains that are withheld for me
I realize and I can see...

[REFRAIN]:

that suicide is painless
It brings on many changes
and I can take or leave it if I please.
I try to find a way to make
all our little joys relate
without that ever-present hate
but now I know that it's too late, and...

[REFRAIN]

The game of life is hard to play
I'm gonna lose it anyway
The losing card I'll someday lay
so this is all I have to say.

[REFRAIN]

The only way to win is cheat
And lay it down before I'm beat
and to another give my seat
for that's the only painless feat.

[REFRAIN]

The sword of time will pierce our skins
It doesn't hurt when it begins
But as it works its way on in
The pain grows stronger...watch it grin, but...

[REFRAIN]

A brave man once requested me
to answer questions that are key
is it to be or not to be
and I replied 'oh why ask me?'

[REFRAIN]

'Cause suicide is painless
it brings on many changes
and I can take or leave it if I please.
...and you can do the same thing if you please.

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So Espertron, every time you hear the M*A*S*H* TV series theme with no lyrics, does it make you as angry as it makes me?

...Michael Moore said to be feeling "fit as a fiddle", found in block of cement by freeway. Suicide suspected.

Ok, obviously this guy knows (knew) more about this shiat than I do but maybe the issue could use an outside common sense if uninformed opinion.

With all of the ridiculous aid that we give to countries most of us never heard of, with all the federal grants most of us aren't told about, with all the $2,000 government toilet seats, why would the CIA need to hold a crack bake sale to fund the contras?

If it's a "keep the black man down" thing, someone please explain the advantage of introducing a drug aimed at a specific ethnic group in order to intentionally make them a burden on society?

If anyone introduced crack into Los Angeles to keep the brother down it's Korean shop owners. They're the only possible group of people who could have benefitted from such a conspiracy.

We all know it was Wesley Snipes anyway.

Quote
Overseas, yeah, we try to stop terrorism
But we still got terrorists here livin
In the USA, the big CIA
Unquote

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Red Slayer

Um, isn't that the CIA was involved in drug trafficking in order to fund the Contras in Nicaragua more or less a matter of fact?

Ummm....from the article:

Major parts of Webb's reporting were later discredited by other newspaper investigations.

So the answer to your question is -----> No.

Now quick, go check your breakfast.



They're landing in your eggs.

"Major parts of Webb's reporting were later discredited by other newspaper investigations.'

So the answer to your question is -----> No."

Surely you've fact checked all of their work, right?

The CIA did it!

Of course, it's all so simple!... Wait... no it's not, its needlessly complicated

With all of the ridiculous aid that we give to countries most of us never heard of, with all the federal grants most of us aren't told about, with all the $2,000 government toilet seats, why would the CIA need to hold a crack bake sale to fund the contras?

Mugato, you could use the same logic to argue that of course the government never sold arms to Iran to fund the Contras. Do you doubt that happened? Hell, running coke would have been a lot easier for the CIA than shipping missiles to Khomeini -- they already had planes and agents in South America. It's a simple matter of leveraging existing infrastructure.

so much pain???

I feel quite sure that the CIA killed this guy eight years after he wrote a since discredited story. They were probably terrified of what an unemployed former lackey in the State Assembly Speaker's office might do.

You people really are deranged.

The latest Nobel Peace Prize winner has said publically more than once that AIDS is a secret government project designed to rid the world of all the black people. (She's black BTW). So I guess there's more than enough silly paranoia to go around as well as otherwise credible people fully willing to listen to it.

The CIA is so bad at their job, it's no surprise they're hooked on crack.

Mugato, the short answer is that the Contras were pretty much terrorists. The sort of group that our government's ideological principles should, in theory prevent them from having anything whatsoever to do with. However, there was a desire to fund them, in order to have them slaughter a large humanist, quasi-communist movement in Nicaragua. Since it would be impossible to overtly draw funds for such an undertaking, the selling of crack was undertaken (as the article said, it wasn't actually the CIA doing it, just making sure certain people got in touch with each other, and keeping said people from ever going to jail). The idea that the CIA has any particular problem with Black America is of course laughable, however thier ideological isolation between the shrinking middle class allows the urban poor (of all races) to be exploited as a cash cow to raise and launder funds to fight human rights in Central America.

Seriously people, what the hell do you think the Contra half of Iran-Contra was?

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Well, in life, this guy managed to piss off:

The CIA
A drug cartel
the LAPD
Nicaraguan Contras
Gov. Gray Davis
A major newspaper

The end of this sad story should really surprise no one.

Danny Castiletto surrenders.

/obsucre?

HotWingConspiracy

Are you a conspiracy theory nut?

Was he missing a kidney?

Plenty of other journalists have exposed far more major governmental scandal than this and are still breathing - anyone recall that little 'Watergate' thing ?

The Contra affair has been acknowledged by the people who were there at the time and most of those directly involved are retired or dead. It's just about plausible that he might have been whacked ten years ago but discrediting a journalist would be far more effective than martyring him.

He hit rock bottom and blew his head off, and somber, matter-of-fact notes such as the one on his door are actually pretty common. I hate knowing these things, but I have a family member who's a paramedic in Seattle and has seen things just like this.

Either way, the poor guy was off his rocker. rip crazy man. :(

ExitKloie:

I have a feeling that if CIA perpetuated this nobody would question that it was a suicide, they are not this stupid.

You're kidding, aren't you? Theres an old joke that goes something like

Q: How do we know the CIA didn't kill Kennedy?

A: He's dead, isnt he?

"Are you a conspiracy theory nut?"

Nah, not really. I think the guy got some random info and strung it together into a "story".

Still though, I just don't get why you would believe the other newspapers so readily. They could have used lies to discredit him. If someone discredited the discreditors, who would you believe?

Tinian: Are you a conspiracy theory nut?


Are you a Foxnews watching nascar fan?

Trust no one.