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Politics and political bias on Fark. EVERYBODY PANIC. No not really 
Posted by Drew at 2008-07-29 12:41:33 PM, edited 2008-07-29 12:46:11 PM (159 comments) | Permalink
Folks who submit articles to Fark may have noticed that about a month ago we added a politics bias dropdown for politics submissions. I've said for years that Fark is a middle of the road make-fun-of-everyone website, but there wasn't any way to demonstrate the accuracy of that statement. I'm not the only one picking links after all, however the other guys share the same sensibilities and general dislike for career politicians that I do.

Political bias flagging has been running for about a month now. Generally people have been submitting political links with the bias correctly flagged, when this isn't the case we've been changing them on the admin side of things.

The bias refers to the tagline, not the actual article. We may have a commie tagline making fun of a fascist article (or vice versa), and given that the average Fark visitor clicks on 2 or 3 links we can assume that most people just read the taglines. Just like regular news outlets where most people read only the headlines. It's pretty normal.

Our system represents Commie links as -1, Neutral as 0, and Fascist as +1. By summing the bias values across all links, we get a total equal to the difference in number of links posted with a particular slant. For example on 7/28 the Sum is 7, meaning 7 more Fascist links were posted that day than Commie links.

Here are the individual results for the past 25 days (apologies for bad formatting, I'm lazy)

# of Greenlit Links / Date / SumOfPoliticalBias
185 7/29/2008 1
188 7/28/2008 7
157 7/27/2008 4
185 7/26/2008 -3
225 7/25/2008 -4
229 7/24/2008 0
240 7/23/2008 -1
145 7/22/2008 -1
220 7/21/2008 3
131 7/20/2008 -1
128 7/19/2008 1
207 7/18/2008 4
195 7/17/2008 5
223 7/16/2008 3
247 7/15/2008 -7
254 7/14/2008 -2
127 7/13/2008 -3
113 7/12/2008 0
244 7/11/2008 -1
243 7/10/2008 -7
232 7/9/2008 -9
257 7/8/2008 1
231 7/7/2008 -6
168 7/6/2008 -2
133 7/5/2008 -2

Totals
4912 -20

The total indicates we're about 20 Fascist links behind perfect balance over the last 25 days, which ain't bad considering that's less than 1 link per day.

Luckily on Fark it's pretty easy to switch the bias of any submitted political link. For example: [Hero] Bush submits plan to solve Social Security woes. This link would be flagged Fascist, +1. However if we change the Hero tag to [Dumbass], the bias flips the other direction to Commie, -1. Preferably we'd like to attach a better joke to a tagline than just flipping the tag, but in a pinch it does the trick.

Sometime in the next few days we're going to add a running tally on the site so everyone can see where we're at on the spectrum. We're still working out the details as to what this will look like and where it will live, the Politics tab is the obvious choice. Sometimes the overall site bias will change depending on what's going on in the news. Last week, Obama received massive media coverage on his World Tour. On the other hand, Bush hasn't received much in the way of positive coverage in months. Yesterday we were at +7 bias for whatever reason. Many factors will skew the ratios a bit, however we'll keep an eye on them and do our best to approach zero over time. Because my personal political bias is that professional politicians are motivated mainly by their own personal gain.

PS - I'm not the most prolific blogger, but I'll occasionally put something random up on Twitter at http://twitter.com/DrewCurtis. With insightful analysis of all sorts of things, such as how many cougars are at the county fair and whether or not the street value of a tanker truck full of ink is more than a billion dollars. It'll probably make you dumber for reading it but it's funny once in awhile.
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nunyabusiness79 2008-07-29 12:54:09 PM  
Nice... replace -Boobies- with Boobies.

 
NutWrench 2008-07-29 12:54:20 PM  
Me too.

 
Jewbag [TotalFark] 2008-07-29 12:54:27 PM  
Aww, I wanted boobies :(

 
buzzsport 2008-07-29 12:54:36 PM  
But Ted Stevens is innocent!

 
pixelbot 2008-07-29 12:54:43 PM  
color me surprised

 
Pastor M 2008-07-29 12:54:47 PM  
boobie czar?

 
JustFarkingGreat 2008-07-29 12:55:01 PM  
nunyabusiness79: I just want to be the Boobieser.

FAIL

 
studebaker hoch 2008-07-29 12:55:21 PM  
BOOBIES!!!!

 
LandOfChocolate 2008-07-29 12:55:31 PM  
I've said for years that Fark is a middle of the road make-fun-of-everyone website, but there wasn't any way to demonstrate the accuracy of that statement.

I disagree. I think Fark heavily tilts to the "left", at least in terms of social issues and general progressiveness.

 
albo [TotalFark] 2008-07-29 12:55:39 PM  
Fark has always been balanced on it's political biases--that's why i argue politics here, it's not an echo chamber ala freep or daily kos.

you're doing a good job. take a $20 out of petty cash and have a nice lunch at Flingers

 
fark_your_mudder 2008-07-29 12:55:45 PM  
TITS

 
siphonophore 2008-07-29 12:56:03 PM  
This is why digg sucks the glory hole. thank goodness drew makes an effort to keep fark from being swamped by either side!

 
Ninja Wicked 2008-07-29 12:56:22 PM  
FARK is essentially a gay-homo-bortion communist online community.

 
ThatGuyGreg [TotalFark] 2008-07-29 12:56:43 PM  
nunyabusiness79: Nice... replace -Boobies- with Boobies.

God damn you fail.

 
emocomputerjock 2008-07-29 12:56:47 PM  
Seriously though, if anyone is spending time complaining about the slant of submissions to a snarky website that openly acknowledges the fact that it's a hodgepodge of not-news, then fark em. No one wants to hang around with those types.

 
december 2008-07-29 12:56:51 PM  
Boobies thread!

 
rickythepenguin [TotalFark] 2008-07-29 12:57:01 PM  
www.luminomagazine.com

Our system represents Commie links as -1, Neutral as 0, and Fascist as +1. By summing the bias values across all links, we get a total equal to the difference in number of links posted with a particular slant. For example on 7/28 the Sum is 7, meaning 7 more Fascist links were posted that day than Commie links.


I was...I was told....I was told that....B-b-b-b-but they told me that.....Brenda had said that....I was told there would be no math.


/You farkin' FASCIST. Errr -- COMMIE.

 
I Said [TotalFark] 2008-07-29 12:57:29 PM  
LandOfChocolate: I've said for years that Fark is a middle of the road make-fun-of-everyone website, but there wasn't any way to demonstrate the accuracy of that statement.

I disagree. I think Fark heavily tilts to the "left", at least in terms of social issues and general progressiveness.


The site or the comments? Because I don't think he has much control on the political views of posters.

 
Karma Curmudgeon 2008-07-29 12:57:38 PM  
nunyabusiness79: Nice... replace -Boobies- with Boobies.

Failtacular!

 
Tin Foil Milliner [TotalFark] 2008-07-29 12:57:58 PM  
huh?

I'm just here for Caturday.

 
mtman900 2008-07-29 12:59:08 PM  
There is no doubt that the community is, at large, a liberal-ish community.

However, that is in no way different from the internet community at large.

 
jamspoon 2008-07-29 12:59:45 PM  
I coulda been 2nd poster, but I'm a swat and read Drew's Weeners.

/I fail at Fark

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2008-07-29 12:59:49 PM  
With insightful analysis of all sorts of things, such as how many cougars are at the county fair

I really hope he's talking about women. This would be an awful time for his wife to find out he's got a cat fetish.

 
make me some tea [TotalFark] 2008-07-29 12:59:56 PM  
Math is hard.

 
SlothB77 2008-07-29 01:00:03 PM  
i do believe the political realm extends beyond just commie and fascist, but i don't know what libertarian would get? -2? +1.5? and commie versus fascist is not the same as liberal versus conservative.

 
LandOfChocolate 2008-07-29 01:00:09 PM  
I Said: The site or the comments? Because I don't think he has much control on the political views of posters.

The posters. The posters are the site.

 
chu2dogg 2008-07-29 01:00:14 PM  
I'm just here for the free beer.

 
Kyosuke [TotalFark] 2008-07-29 01:00:15 PM  
Why are you justifying the insane rantings of extremist bloggers by even bothering to keep track of this info?

No one is owed an explanation as to why Fark is what it is.

 
ericbo84 2008-07-29 01:00:26 PM  
So is the boobieser a title? Or is it a position like a mod or something?

I hereby declare the thread, a nunyabusiness79 fail thread!
i169.photobucket.com

 
albo [TotalFark] 2008-07-29 01:00:28 PM  
I Said: disagree. I think Fark heavily tilts to the "left", at least in terms of social issues and general progressiveness.

yes, in the threads, not the headlines. the threads sometimes feel like a progressive jerkoff and i'm the cracker

 
rickythepenguin [TotalFark] 2008-07-29 01:01:15 PM  
I Said: Because I don't think he has much control on the political views of posters.


ME VOTE....OBAMA. OBAMA GOOD. MCCAIN BAAAAAAAAAD. ME VOTE OBAMA. FARK GOOD. FARK HAPPY PLACE. MCCAIN BAAAAAD. OBAMA GOOD. BRAAAAAAINZ.....

/zombie

 
wrightb71 2008-07-29 01:01:18 PM  
Tin Foil Milliner: huh?

I'm just here for Caturday.


Little early don't you think?

 
jamspoon 2008-07-29 01:01:41 PM  
Meh! Filter turned "Drew's p0st" into "Drew's post"

 
Heamer 2008-07-29 01:01:59 PM  
FARK POLITICAL BIAS.

Serious business.

 
LandOfChocolate 2008-07-29 01:02:10 PM  
albo: yes, in the threads, not the headlines. the threads sometimes feel like a progressive jerkoff and i'm the cracker

Is there some line between submitter and poster that I'm not aware of?

 
unremarkable asterisk [TotalFark] 2008-07-29 01:02:30 PM  
I'm just here to pick up left-wing, liberal, crunchy, hippie-chicks.

 
mtman900 2008-07-29 01:02:31 PM  
Oh, and Drew, a quick word of caution: Warn yourself and the admins against using this metric as something to judge how well you've been selecting headlines.

 
illogic [TotalFark] 2008-07-29 01:02:45 PM  
How about a +100 for everytime someone use the term "glass parking lot"

 
benlonghair [TotalFark] 2008-07-29 01:02:46 PM  
Could somebody repeat that for me in english?

 
fark_your_mudder 2008-07-29 01:02:49 PM  
mtman900: There is no doubt that the community is, at large, a liberal-ish community.

However, that is in no way different from the internet community at large.


Well, of course. That is the way it was intended when Al Gore invented it.

 
dj_bigbird [TotalFark] 2008-07-29 01:02:55 PM  
LandOfChocolate: I've said for years that Fark is a middle of the road make-fun-of-everyone website, but there wasn't any way to demonstrate the accuracy of that statement.

I disagree. I think Fark heavily tilts to the "left", at least in terms of social issues and general progressiveness.


Not really. It tends more towards "leave me alone and I'll leave you alone (though I am still free to mock you)".

 
I Said [TotalFark] 2008-07-29 01:03:15 PM  
LandOfChocolate: I Said: The site or the comments? Because I don't think he has much control on the political views of posters.

The posters. The posters are the site.


Right but that was the point. The point of doing this was to see if Fark, the site itself, the part controlled by Drew/Mods, was producing middle of the road content. There wasn't a tally for posts.

 
I Said [TotalFark] 2008-07-29 01:03:56 PM  
LandOfChocolate: albo: yes, in the threads, not the headlines. the threads sometimes feel like a progressive jerkoff and i'm the cracker

Is there some line between submitter and poster that I'm not aware of?


Yes. Moderator approval.

 
tdyak 2008-07-29 01:04:34 PM  
Tin Foil Milliner: huh?

I'm just here for Caturday.


And you showed up for Commieday.

/Fascist.

 
rocinante721 2008-07-29 01:05:01 PM  
I have always posted NEUTRAL as I have no clue what to make of the new submission chart.

So there

 
Marla Singer's Laundry [TotalFark] 2008-07-29 01:05:11 PM  
What about sex bias? I get sent to the corner for minor infractions, no doubt at the behest of crybabies who can't keep up. Meanwhile, the thread continues with gleeful declarations for the love of skull-f-----g infants or what have you.

/Kidding

 
rickythepenguin [TotalFark] 2008-07-29 01:05:19 PM  
unremarkable asterisk: I'm just here to pick up left-wing, liberal, crunchy, hippie-chicks.



"Hey, doll....I just picked up the new Sleater-Kinney. Wanna grab some coffee and talk about Chomsky's view on the FASCIST WAR FOR OIL? I don't watch TV, you know. Well, the Simpsons, and Colbert and Stewart, South Park, and Top Chef, but, yeah, TV sucks. So whaddya say?"

 
albo [TotalFark] 2008-07-29 01:06:06 PM  
I Said: Yes. Moderator approval.

admins approve links. mods punish commenters who are naughty

 
HitInTheJunk 2008-07-29 01:06:14 PM  
This seems like a worthwhile idea, but I wanted to say what I always say when having the "OMG media BIAS" conversation with people:

Equal time to both sides is NOT unbiased.

Telling the truth is.

Although, given this is a humor site, headlines will be exaggerated and the truth will be fudged a bit to get to the punchline. I'm cool with that, as long as the facts aren't absolutely demolished just so a headline can settle Fark's Bias Counter.

 
Marla Singer's Laundry [TotalFark] 2008-07-29 01:07:30 PM  
albo: I Said: Yes. Moderator approval.

admins approve links. mods punish commenters who are naughty sexy

 
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